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08-13-2020, 06:23 PM   #80011
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This is an Alligator. It's an amphibious boat that could haul logs over both land and water. They were steam powered and the boiler, drive shaft, gears and metal frame of the paddle wheels which could also propel the boat on land is what you're looking at. There's one across the bay from where I live in the same condition as the relic. They became obsolete when trucks became big enough and powerful enough to haul logs out of the bush.

Here's one that is still intact.
Clever machine. Thanks for posting. I've never seen one. Here by us, they used a stationary (steam engine driven) machine to run a endless chain around a set of pulleys and so hauled the logs out of the bush to a central location.

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Clever machine. Thanks for posting. I've never seen one. Here by us, they used a stationary (steam engine driven) machine to run a endless chain around a set of pulleys and so hauled the logs out of the bush to a central location.
The loggers would assemble a huge log boom to be pulled, which was then attached tot he winch on the alligator. The alligator would move forward drop anchor and winch the boom forward, Then repeat until it got to the other end of the lake, where there would be a chute to the next lake. I suspect you don't have enough lakes in Australia to make use of an Alligator. They were used in connected lake systems.

AN RC model Alligator.


A log chute in winter, most were bigger and longer. Loggers would "herd" the logs into the log chute and then to the next lake. The alligator would go overland to get to the next lake then repeat until they got down to the Ottawa River. (From whence you could sail all the way to Australia if you wanted to.)
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You seem to have a knack for popping in at just the right moment Jim.
Pure luck, eh?
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Did the Alligator use the anchor and winch method to drag itself across land, or did it have gears or wheel drive of some sort like the paddle wheels? Definitely a clever bit of tech!

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I suspect you don't have enough lakes in Australia to make use of an Alligator. They were used in connected lake systems. . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . (From whence you could sail all the way to Australia if you wanted to.)
Except Mark is in New Zealand.
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The loggers would assemble a huge log boom to be pulled, which was then attached tot he winch on the alligator. The alligator would move forward drop anchor and winch the boom forward, Then repeat until it got to the other end of the lake, where there would be a chute to the next lake. I suspect you don't have enough lakes in Australia to make use of an Alligator. They were used in connected lake systems.

AN RC model Alligator.


A log chute in winter, most were bigger and longer. Loggers would "herd" the logs into the log chute and then to the next lake. The alligator would go overland to get to the next lake then repeat until they got down to the Ottawa River. (From whence you could sail all the way to Australia if you wanted to.)
Real clever!

And a small reminder. Australia is the slightly larger island to the North-West.
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Clever machine. Thanks for posting. I've never seen one. Here by us, they used a stationary (steam engine driven) machine to run a endless chain around a set of pulleys and so hauled the logs out of the bush to a central location.
They used steam donkeys around here back in the day.

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They used steam donkeys around here back in the day.
This is similar to what they used here. Except, most that I have seen have had horizontal boilers, much like a steam train.

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100 more posts and I'm at 14,000!
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Real clever!

And a small reminder. Australia is the slightly larger island to the North-West.
You make one little mistake around here....

I tend to judge the location by the cost of the airline ticket. Going to either is way above my pay grade.

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Did the Alligator use the anchor and winch method to drag itself across land, or did it have gears or wheel drive of some sort like the paddle wheels? Definitely a clever bit of tech!
I've heard about corduroy (log roads) being constructed, and I suspect the winch moved the alligator across land, but, I'd have to ask at the next "Logging Days" exhibition in the park (cancelled this year by Covid) if I don't run into one of the old timers at the grocery. (Imagine people my age calling other people old timers.)

Now this guy here, he's an old timer.... he's in his 90s and still swinging a squaring axe, one of those lost arts.

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