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09-21-2014, 08:22 AM   #10456
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QuoteOriginally posted by Jean Poitiers Quote
"Les nouvelles" in French ... Plural and feminine ...
Hmm... Usually plural in Norwegian, although there is a singular form as well used about one single piece of news, so to speak. And it's masculine. No Shirley news here!

09-21-2014, 08:36 AM   #10457
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QuoteOriginally posted by VoiceOfReason Quote
No, what you mean is this.
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I dare you post that in one of the News & Rumors threads.
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I did it on one of the threads there already.
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Päl Jensen and Mistral75 are duking it out over ILIS switches on one of the tele zoom prototypes. It's like the entire thread just skipped over the Linus and Lucy.
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I think I need to crosspost it into another N&R thread then.
Just keep reposting it in the same thread, every ten posts or so . . . . .
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In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are.

But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is".
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are.

But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is".
{Allow me to comment Master}

Well based on the majority of what one sees on the evening news, news are not good. And for that reason I generally avoid the evening news.

{Thank you Master}

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Your input is always welcome and encouraged. Even when you're wrong.
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Just keep reposting it in the same thread, every ten posts or so . . . . .
If it were me I think I might want to just let it die its own slow death. If it were me.
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I think that's pretty advice.
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just let it die its own slow death.
These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun?

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These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun?
It isn't really fun any more - Pentaxo esse non delendam.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are.

But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is".
Not quite. We have three gendered 3rd person singular pronouns "he", "she", "it". For most things the English were like the Romans, according to my Latin teacher, "they had a look at something to work out masculine, feminine or neuter" and used the appropriate gender. He had come into the class with a half smoked cigarette and said that the French would say "she is half burnt".

Some English nouns for neuter things get masculine or usually feminine pronouns - like ships.

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{Allow me to comment Master}

Well based on the majority of what one sees on the evening news, news are not good. And for that reason I generally avoid the evening news.

{Thank you Master}
When I visit US and have the news on TV in the hotel it seems like "new" is the right word.

From outside people often accuse the US of being parochial and seeming to believe "nothing happens outside the US". But when I go there it seems that only one thing happened in the US. On one trip it was a news helicopter that had crashed in SoCal, on another it was a hurricane somewhere, etc. All the channels had the same story and kept repeating it and expanding it, like each channel only had one journalist to find out stuff.
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All the channels had the same story and kept repeating it and expanding it,
The curse of the 24hour news channels!

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It isn't really fun any more
Point taken even though the Latin is Greek to me.
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The curse of the 24hour news channels!
BINGO! There isn't enough "news" to go around so they have to either create it*, or repeat it ad nauseum.

*Journalist's have adopted a famous quote as their creed:
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." ~Samuel Clemens
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
BINGO! There isn't enough "news" to go around so they have to either create it*, or repeat it ad nauseum.

*Journalist's have adopted a famous quote as their creed:
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." ~Samuel Clemens
Plus, don't forget ... "If it bleeds, it leads."

And stop calling me Shirley !
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
If it were plural the verb would be are.
Sort of like the word "data" which is technically the plural of "datum", but phrases like "the data are not convincing" just sound so wrong, particularly in Star Trek Land were "Data is singular". He is unique...sort of...




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These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun?
Perhaps they are one of those repeating loops in time caused by the inept actions of a few. Dr. Who might actually be some help here.



...or maybe not...


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"nothing happens outside the US"
It is fact...unless happens in Russia...


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QuoteOriginally posted by Joel B Quote
Point taken even though the Latin is Greek to me.
Pentax must not be destroyed --

loosely,

"Pentax is Not Doomed".
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