why I won't buy a k3 (Warning: Satire Thread)

**savoche** · 09-21-2014, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Jean Poitiers

"Les nouvelles" in French ... Plural and feminine ...

Hmm... Usually plural in Norwegian, although there is a singular form as well used about one single piece of news, so to speak. And it's masculine. No Shirley news here!

Racer X 69 · 09-21-2014, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

No, what you mean is this.

Originally posted by Parallax

I dare you post that in one of the News & Rumors threads.

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

I did it on one of the threads there already.

Originally posted by monochrome

Päl Jensen and Mistral75 are duking it out over ILIS switches on one of the tele zoom prototypes. It's like the entire thread just skipped over the Linus and Lucy.

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

I think I need to crosspost it into another N&R thread then.

Just keep reposting it in the same thread, every ten posts or so . . . . .

Parallax · 09-21-2014, 08:38 AM

In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are.

But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is".

Racer X 69 · 09-21-2014, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are.

But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is".

{Allow me to comment Master}

Well based on the majority of what one sees on the evening news, news are not good. And for that reason I generally avoid the evening news.

{Thank you Master}

Parallax · 09-21-2014, 08:51 AM

Your input is always welcome and encouraged. Even when you're wrong.

**monochrome** · 09-21-2014, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by Racer X 69

Just keep reposting it in the same thread, every ten posts or so . . . . .

If it were me I think I might want to just let it die its own slow death. If it were me.

Parallax · 09-21-2014, 08:57 AM

I think that's pretty advice.

Joel B · 09-21-2014, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

just let it die its own slow death.

These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun?

**monochrome** · 09-21-2014, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Joel B

These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun?

It isn't really fun any more - Pentaxo esse non delendam.

tim60 · 09-21-2014, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are.

But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is".

Not quite. We have three gendered 3rd person singular pronouns "he", "she", "it". For most things the English were like the Romans, according to my Latin teacher, "they had a look at something to work out masculine, feminine or neuter" and used the appropriate gender. He had come into the class with a half smoked cigarette and said that the French would say "she is half burnt".

Some English nouns for neuter things get masculine or usually feminine pronouns - like ships.

---------- Post added 09-22-14 at 04:56 AM ----------

Originally posted by Racer X 69

{Allow me to comment Master}

Well based on the majority of what one sees on the evening news, news are not good. And for that reason I generally avoid the evening news.

{Thank you Master}

When I visit US and have the news on TV in the hotel it seems like "new" is the right word.

From outside people often accuse the US of being parochial and seeming to believe "nothing happens outside the US". But when I go there it seems that only one thing happened in the US. On one trip it was a news helicopter that had crashed in SoCal, on another it was a hurricane somewhere, etc. All the channels had the same story and kept repeating it and expanding it, like each channel only had one journalist to find out stuff.

Joel B · 09-21-2014, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by tim60

All the channels had the same story and kept repeating it and expanding it,

The curse of the 24hour news channels!

---------- Post added 09-21-14 at 03:03 PM ----------

Originally posted by monochrome

It isn't really fun any more

Point taken even though the Latin is Greek to me.

Parallax · 09-21-2014, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Joel B

The curse of the 24hour news channels!

BINGO! There isn't enough "news" to go around so they have to either create it*, or repeat it ad nauseum.

*Journalist's have adopted a famous quote as their creed:
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." ~Samuel Clemens

Jean Poitiers · 09-21-2014, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

BINGO! There isn't enough "news" to go around so they have to either create it*, or repeat it ad nauseum.

*Journalist's have adopted a famous quote as their creed:
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." ~Samuel Clemens

Plus, don't forget ... "If it bleeds, it leads."

And stop calling me Shirley !

stevebrot · 09-21-2014, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

If it were plural the verb would be are.

Sort of like the word "data" which is technically the plural of "datum", but phrases like "the data are not convincing" just sound so wrong, particularly in Star Trek Land were "Data is singular". He is unique...sort of...

Steve

---------- Post added 09-21-14 at 01:29 PM ----------

Originally posted by Joel B

These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun?

Perhaps they are one of those repeating loops in time caused by the inept actions of a few. Dr. Who might actually be some help here.

...or maybe not...

Steve

---------- Post added 09-21-14 at 01:31 PM ----------

Originally posted by tim60

"nothing happens outside the US"

It is fact...unless happens in Russia...

Steve

**monochrome** · 09-21-2014, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Joel B

Point taken even though the Latin is Greek to me.

Pentax must not be destroyed --

loosely,

"Pentax is Not Doomed".

09-21-2014, 01:25 PM	#10469
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Parallax If it were plural the verb would be are. Sort of like the word "data" which is technically the plural of "datum", but phrases like "the data are not convincing" just sound so wrong, particularly in Star Trek Land were "Data is singular". He is unique...sort of... Steve ---------- Post added 09-21-14 at 01:29 PM ---------- Originally posted by Joel B These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun? Perhaps they are one of those repeating loops in time caused by the inept actions of a few. Dr. Who might actually be some help here. ...or maybe not... Steve ---------- Post added 09-21-14 at 01:31 PM ---------- Originally posted by tim60 "nothing happens outside the US" It is fact...unless happens in Russia... Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 09-21-2014 at 01:32 PM.

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09-21-2014, 08:22 AM	#10456
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by Jean Poitiers *"Les nouvelles"* in French ... Plural and feminine ... Hmm... Usually plural in Norwegian, although there is a singular form as well used about one single piece of news, so to speak. And it's masculine. No Shirley news here!

09-21-2014, 08:36 AM	#10457
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,068	Originally posted by VoiceOfReason No, what you mean is this. Originally posted by Parallax I dare you post that in one of the News & Rumors threads. Originally posted by VoiceOfReason I did it on one of the threads there already. Originally posted by monochrome Päl Jensen and Mistral75 are duking it out over ILIS switches on one of the tele zoom prototypes. It's like the entire thread just skipped over the Linus and Lucy. Originally posted by VoiceOfReason I think I need to crosspost it into another N&R thread then. Just keep reposting it in the same thread, every ten posts or so . . . . .

09-21-2014, 08:38 AM	#10458
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are. But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is".

09-21-2014, 08:42 AM	#10459
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,068	Originally posted by Parallax In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are. But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is". {Allow me to comment Master} Well based on the majority of what one sees on the evening news, news are not good. And for that reason I generally avoid the evening news. {Thank you Master}

09-21-2014, 08:51 AM	#10460
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Your input is always welcome and encouraged. Even when you're wrong.

09-21-2014, 08:53 AM	#10461
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Racer X 69 Just keep reposting it in the same thread, every ten posts or so . . . . . If it were me I think I might want to just let it die its own slow death. If it were me.

09-21-2014, 08:57 AM	#10462
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	I think that's pretty advice.

09-21-2014, 10:56 AM	#10463
Joel B Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barnett MO. Photos: Albums Posts: 2,336	Originally posted by monochrome just let it die its own slow death. These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun?

09-21-2014, 11:36 AM	#10464
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Joel B These FF fights regenerate more often than Dr. Who! So why not add to the fun? It isn't really fun any more - Pentaxo esse non delendam.

09-21-2014, 12:20 PM	#10465
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,745	Originally posted by Parallax In English there is no gender for nouns, but as to plural v. singular, news is clearly singular. In a sentence, such as "the news is not good" news is always followed by is. If it were plural the verb would be are. But then, "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is". Not quite. We have three gendered 3rd person singular pronouns "he", "she", "it". For most things the English were like the Romans, according to my Latin teacher, "they had a look at something to work out masculine, feminine or neuter" and used the appropriate gender. He had come into the class with a half smoked cigarette and said that the French would say "she is half burnt". Some English nouns for neuter things get masculine or usually feminine pronouns - like ships. ---------- Post added 09-22-14 at 04:56 AM ---------- Originally posted by Racer X 69 {Allow me to comment Master} Well based on the majority of what one sees on the evening news, news are not good. And for that reason I generally avoid the evening news. {Thank you Master} When I visit US and have the news on TV in the hotel it seems like "new" is the right word. From outside people often accuse the US of being parochial and seeming to believe "nothing happens outside the US". But when I go there it seems that only one thing happened in the US. On one trip it was a news helicopter that had crashed in SoCal, on another it was a hurricane somewhere, etc. All the channels had the same story and kept repeating it and expanding it, like each channel only had one journalist to find out stuff.

09-21-2014, 01:02 PM	#10466
Joel B Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barnett MO. Photos: Albums Posts: 2,336	Originally posted by tim60 All the channels had the same story and kept repeating it and expanding it, The curse of the 24hour news channels! ---------- Post added 09-21-14 at 03:03 PM ---------- Originally posted by monochrome It isn't really fun any more Point taken even though the Latin is Greek to me.

09-21-2014, 01:10 PM	#10467
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Joel B The curse of the 24hour news channels! BINGO! There isn't enough "news" to go around so they have to either create it, or repeat it ad nauseum. Journalist's have adopted a famous quote as their creed: "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." ~Samuel Clemens

09-21-2014, 01:17 PM	#10468
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by Parallax BINGO! There isn't enough "news" to go around so they have to either create it, or repeat it ad nauseum. Journalist's have adopted a famous quote as their creed: "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." ~Samuel Clemens Plus, don't forget ... "If it bleeds, it leads." And stop calling me Shirley !

09-21-2014, 02:22 PM	#10470
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Joel B Point taken even though the Latin is Greek to me. Pentax must not be destroyed -- loosely, "Pentax is Not Doomed".