why I won't buy a k3 (Warning: Satire Thread)

Vylen · 10-10-2013, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Oh! One more thing! I forgot to add why I would not be buying the K3!

Besides not currently being employed

, I am seriously concerned that the K3 would make all of my lenses look sub-standard. I don't know if there is a single piece of glass in my kit that can properly support 24 non-AA Megapixels.

Steve

Rob a bank... or start a meth lab like Walter White...

And have the simulated AA filter on all the you've

**LaurenOE** · 10-10-2013, 04:00 PM - **2 Likes**

Hmm...

Maybe I'm being too harsh.

If Ricoh *had* good SLRs back in the day, then maybe having Ricoh on a DSLR is a dream come true for some Ricoh fans.
Maybe the Ricoh fans have been waiting longer for a DSLR than Pentaxians for a FF camera?

I suppose if having Ricoh on a DSLR resurrects a dream of the Ricohnians, then maybe it's not such a bad thing.

I mean, Ricoh *did* support the K mount.

Hmm....maybe it's a good thing having the only two camera makers to ever support the K mount be united?

Maybe I'm being too snobbish over this whole thing.

Sandy Hancock · 10-10-2013, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

Hmm...

Maybe I'm being too harsh.

If Ricoh *had* good SLRs back in the day, then maybe having Ricoh on a DSLR is a dream come true for some Ricoh fans.
Maybe the Ricoh fans have been waiting longer for a DSLR than Pentaxians for a FF camera?

I suppose if having Ricoh on a DSLR resurrects a dream of the Ricohnians, then maybe it's not such a bad thing.

I mean, Ricoh *did* support the K mount.

Hmm....maybe it's a good thing having the only two camera makers to ever support the K mount be united?

Maybe I'm being too snobbish over this whole thing.

Indeed. And no need for the sad face Lauren. Being able to listen to alternative opinions and appreciate them is a good thing, and not seen often enough in this sort of forum

**monochrome** · 10-10-2013, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

Not funny. I am still mentally scarred.

.

Didn't I buy that lens from you?

**monochrome** · 10-10-2013, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

Maybe I'm being too snobbish over this whole thing.

Nah - I don't think so. Tape away. Whatever makes you happy and keeps you in the fold.

I have decided to accept it as reassuring to new buyers and overlook it for myself. It's not a Root Kit after all.

k5astro · 10-10-2013, 04:19 PM

I think Ricoh are deluded. They would do well to put everything behind the Pentax name which is one of the strongest names in the industry - not so for the Ricoh name. However, so far Hoya and Ricoh have been smart enough to let Pentax design an build cameras like only they know how. Hope they keep it that way.

VisualDarkness · 10-10-2013, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Oh! One more thing! I forgot to add why I would not be buying the K3!

Besides not currently being employed

, I am seriously concerned that the K3 would make all of my lenses look sub-standard. I don't know if there is a single piece of glass in my kit that can properly support 24 non-AA Megapixels.

Steve

More MP don't make the lenses worse, they can only get better or stay the same.

stevebrot · 10-10-2013, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

Hmm....maybe it's a good thing having the only two camera makers to ever support the K mount be united?

There were several others, including at least one (Cosina) that still makes a 35mm K-mount film camera. The Ricoh/Pentax combination is a good thing, though I do think that mixed messages are being sent on the marketing front.

Steve

VisualDarkness · 10-10-2013, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by gbeaton

I think Ricoh are deluded. They would do well to put everything behind the Pentax name which is one of the strongest names in the industry - not so for the Ricoh name. However, so far Hoya and Ricoh have been smart enough to let Pentax design an build cameras like only they know how. Hope they keep it that way.

I can count the people I've met that knew about Pentax DSRLs on my fingers.

raider · 10-10-2013, 04:34 PM

Isn't the Ricoh Pentax thing kinda like the IBM Lenovo thingy?

Many of us like the thinkpad notebook...they are used to call IBM thinkpad. Now they are called Lenovo thinkpad....does it matter? The thinkpad is just as good (if not better) then before and I personally would not refrain from a thinkpad just because the whole laptop business thingy was sold to the Chinese.

Isn't the more important thing is that Ricoh delivers a good k mount camera?

jogiba · 10-10-2013, 04:45 PM

My K-7 was purchased the first day it was available and since then I have purchased many cameras but none with a mirror and I don't plan on purchasing any more cameras with mirrors.

**Ex Finn.** · 10-10-2013, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

My K-7 was purchased the first day it was available and since then I have purchased many cameras but none with a mirror and I don't plan on purchasing any more cameras with mirrors.

So you are a true video guy, why mess with the stuff that you do?. Just curious.

jogiba · 10-10-2013, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

So you are a true video guy, why mess with the stuff that you do?. Just curious.

So you think it's not possible to take a still image with a mirrorless camera ? Really ?

Dave L · 10-10-2013, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by pentaxdude

I have been waiting for the announcement of the k3 for some time.Now that the camera is out and seeing the pics and seeing "ricoh on the back of the screen turns me off.Only a matter of time before we see Ricoh on the front of the camera.I think ricoh just shot themselves in the foot.

But there is going to be just as much "PENTAX" on view as in the early days - more in fact because then, the lenses were Takumar not Pentax. So you'll have PENTAX on the camera front and on the lens side and front/top/lenscap/lenshood. Nobody will be in any doubt what it is!

As for the back, well my old MX has "Asahi Opt. Co., Japan" in the same place as RICOH will be, the main difference being that it's less noticeable as the font is smaller (more words!) and it's embossed black on black. So my only objection is that it's too bright, I like my cameras as black as possible, but that's easily fixed...

Ricoh do deserve a bit of kudos here, they did save the brand from a slow and withering death IMO so I can live with their name on the back but I hope that's far as it goes.

**Ex Finn.** · 10-10-2013, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

So you think it's not possible to take a still image with a mirrorless camera ? Really ?

No, not saying that at all. I am just curious that for someone who goes on rides and does reports, is not using real video cameras. That`s all.

10-10-2013, 05:33 PM	#104
Dave L Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 306	Originally posted by pentaxdude I have been waiting for the announcement of the k3 for some time.Now that the camera is out and seeing the pics and seeing "ricoh on the back of the screen turns me off.Only a matter of time before we see Ricoh on the front of the camera.I think ricoh just shot themselves in the foot. But there is going to be just as much "PENTAX" on view as in the early days - more in fact because then, the lenses were Takumar not Pentax. So you'll have PENTAX on the camera front and on the lens side and front/top/lenscap/lenshood. Nobody will be in any doubt what it is! As for the back, well my old MX has "Asahi Opt. Co., Japan" in the same place as RICOH will be, the main difference being that it's less noticeable as the font is smaller (more words!) and it's embossed black on black. So my only objection is that it's too bright, I like my cameras as black as possible, but that's easily fixed... Ricoh do deserve a bit of kudos here, they did save the brand from a slow and withering death IMO so I can live with their name on the back but I hope that's far as it goes. Last edited by Dave L; 10-10-2013 at 05:40 PM.

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10-10-2013, 03:47 PM	#91
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by stevebrot Oh! One more thing! I forgot to add why I would not be buying the K3! Besides not currently being employed , I am seriously concerned that the K3 would make all of my lenses look sub-standard. I don't know if there is a single piece of glass in my kit that can properly support 24 non-AA Megapixels. Steve Rob a bank... or start a meth lab like Walter White... And have the simulated AA filter on all the you've

10-10-2013, 04:00 PM - 2 Likes	#92
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Hmm... Maybe I'm being too harsh. If Ricoh had good SLRs back in the day, then maybe having Ricoh on a DSLR is a dream come true for some Ricoh fans. Maybe the Ricoh fans have been waiting longer for a DSLR than Pentaxians for a FF camera? I suppose if having Ricoh on a DSLR resurrects a dream of the Ricohnians, then maybe it's not such a bad thing. I mean, Ricoh did support the K mount. Hmm....maybe it's a good thing having the only two camera makers to ever support the K mount be united? Maybe I'm being too snobbish over this whole thing.

10-10-2013, 04:06 PM	#93
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Originally posted by LaurenOE Hmm... Maybe I'm being too harsh. If Ricoh had good SLRs back in the day, then maybe having Ricoh on a DSLR is a dream come true for some Ricoh fans. Maybe the Ricoh fans have been waiting longer for a DSLR than Pentaxians for a FF camera? I suppose if having Ricoh on a DSLR resurrects a dream of the Ricohnians, then maybe it's not such a bad thing. I mean, Ricoh did support the K mount. Hmm....maybe it's a good thing having the only two camera makers to ever support the K mount be united? Maybe I'm being too snobbish over this whole thing. Indeed. And no need for the sad face Lauren. Being able to listen to alternative opinions and appreciate them is a good thing, and not seen often enough in this sort of forum

10-10-2013, 04:08 PM	#94
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by jsherman999 Not funny. I am still mentally scarred. . Didn't I buy that lens from you?

10-10-2013, 04:11 PM	#95
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by LaurenOE Maybe I'm being too snobbish over this whole thing. Nah - I don't think so. Tape away. Whatever makes you happy and keeps you in the fold. I have decided to accept it as reassuring to new buyers and overlook it for myself. It's not a Root Kit after all.

10-10-2013, 04:19 PM	#96
k5astro Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 387	I think Ricoh are deluded. They would do well to put everything behind the Pentax name which is one of the strongest names in the industry - not so for the Ricoh name. However, so far Hoya and Ricoh have been smart enough to let Pentax design an build cameras like only they know how. Hope they keep it that way.

10-10-2013, 04:20 PM	#97
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Originally posted by stevebrot Oh! One more thing! I forgot to add why I would not be buying the K3! Besides not currently being employed , I am seriously concerned that the K3 would make all of my lenses look sub-standard. I don't know if there is a single piece of glass in my kit that can properly support 24 non-AA Megapixels. Steve More MP don't make the lenses worse, they can only get better or stay the same.

10-10-2013, 04:22 PM	#98
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by LaurenOE Hmm....maybe it's a good thing having the only two camera makers to ever support the K mount be united? There were several others, including at least one (Cosina) that still makes a 35mm K-mount film camera. The Ricoh/Pentax combination is a good thing, though I do think that mixed messages are being sent on the marketing front. Steve

10-10-2013, 04:22 PM	#99
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Originally posted by gbeaton I think Ricoh are deluded. They would do well to put everything behind the Pentax name which is one of the strongest names in the industry - not so for the Ricoh name. However, so far Hoya and Ricoh have been smart enough to let Pentax design an build cameras like only they know how. Hope they keep it that way. I can count the people I've met that knew about Pentax DSRLs on my fingers.

10-10-2013, 04:34 PM	#100
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	Isn't the Ricoh Pentax thing kinda like the IBM Lenovo thingy? Many of us like the thinkpad notebook...they are used to call IBM thinkpad. Now they are called Lenovo thinkpad....does it matter? The thinkpad is just as good (if not better) then before and I personally would not refrain from a thinkpad just because the whole laptop business thingy was sold to the Chinese. Isn't the more important thing is that Ricoh delivers a good k mount camera?

10-10-2013, 04:45 PM	#101
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	My K-7 was purchased the first day it was available and since then I have purchased many cameras but none with a mirror and I don't plan on purchasing any more cameras with mirrors.

10-10-2013, 05:06 PM	#102
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by jogiba My K-7 was purchased the first day it was available and since then I have purchased many cameras but none with a mirror and I don't plan on purchasing any more cameras with mirrors. So you are a true video guy, why mess with the stuff that you do?. Just curious.

10-10-2013, 05:19 PM	#103
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Ex Finn. So you are a true video guy, why mess with the stuff that you do?. Just curious. So you think it's not possible to take a still image with a mirrorless camera ? Really ?

10-10-2013, 05:37 PM	#105
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by jogiba So you think it's not possible to take a still image with a mirrorless camera ? Really ? No, not saying that at all. I am just curious that for someone who goes on rides and does reports, is not using real video cameras. That`s all.