why I won't buy a k3 (Warning: Satire Thread)

tabl10s · 10-11-2013, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by tuco

I think Ricoh on the front of the camera won't matter to a new generation of photographers after the old fogies are long gone.

Who you calling an old fogie?

tabl10s · 10-11-2013, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

This strikes me as gratuitous pessimism, particularly given what we've recently seen from Ricoh. Essentially, Ricoh is doing everything they reasonably can to save the Pentax brand. And we're angry because they dare to put their name anywhere on the camera? Why do some people here have such a bad attitude about Ricoh? Would it really be preferable if the Pentax camera division was still run by Hoya? But Hoya didn't want the camera division; they were going to sell it regardless. Under such circumstances, Ricoh seems to me the very best buyer that we could possibly have hoped for. (And if there were a better possible buyer, who would that have been?)

Would you rather have a camera with "Hasselblad" or one with "Fisher-Price" added to the name? I've never desired to own anything Ricoh. I didn't know about until a co-worker asked if he could borrow a lens when he thought the mounts looked similar back in '81.

magkelly · 10-11-2013, 03:33 AM - **1 Like**

I'm not going to get one basically because it's more camera than I need and I can't afford it anyway but I don't get the heat here over the Ricoh name here. I already have Pentax cameras in the kit that say Honeywell, Asahi, and Hoya. Who cares if one says "Ricoh" too? I'd rather see both but even if it said just "Ricoh" and nothing but "Ricoh" if it means I'll still be able to buy a quality K mount camera and lenses in the future I'm not going to sweat it. I'll still consider myself a Pentaxian and will so long as I own any camera that says Pentax on the front and I have several. I actually have several M42 cameras that are not even Pentax. Most notably I have the GAF, a Sears Chinon and I'm proud to own that. It's an utterly cool camera. Being a Pentaxian isn't just about having the right branding on your camera body. It's about what kind of gear you use. A name is just a name. Names change. So long as the gear stays good that's what really matters. "A rose by any other name, and all..."

Basie · 10-11-2013, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by pentaxdude

I have been waiting for the announcement of the k3 for some time.Now that the camera is out and seeing the pics and seeing "ricoh on the back of the screen turns me off.Only a matter of time before we see Ricoh on the front of the camera.I think ricoh just shot themselves in the foot.

My first SLR reflex was a Ricoh K5 ( k5? the same as my pentax ) and then a k10. I wanted Pentax or Nikon or whatever, but the it was I could afford and was told by the seller that it is one of the most underrated cameras. Everybody thinks since it is cheap it should be nasty. It was ( and still is a quality camera and I for one will be proud to display Ricoh on my Pentax

johnmflores · 10-11-2013, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

But ruining the esthetics of a perfectly good design by introducing a totally useless feature at 3 times its necessary size creating a huge big hump located in a place nobody wants it, isn't logical either.

Funny, that "totally useless feature" is one of the primary reasons I'm getting a K-3. I guess that makes me and everybody else shooting moving pictures nobodies.

Vylen · 10-11-2013, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Funny, that "totally useless feature" is one of the primary reasons I'm getting a K-3. I guess that makes me and everybody else shooting moving pictures nobodies.

That's impossible! It's totally useless! No one uses totally useless stuff cause it's not wanted! Clavius said so!

**Digitalis** · 10-11-2013, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

I don't plan on purchasing any more cameras with mirrors.

Is this some form of photographers Catoptrophobia? Here take my K5IIs - I'll just take the mirror out of it.

Clavius · 10-11-2013, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Funny, that "totally useless feature" is one of the primary reasons I'm getting a K-3. I guess that makes me and everybody else shooting moving pictures nobodies.

What's even funnier is that you're confirming my opinion by being the only one I've seen that's actually excited about it. You know very well in what context I was stating that, that's why you left that out of the quote.

GibbyTheMole · 10-11-2013, 04:46 AM

Originally posted by pentaxdude

I have been waiting for the announcement of the k3 for some time.Now that the camera is out and seeing the pics and seeing "ricoh on the back of the screen turns me off.Only a matter of time before we see Ricoh on the front of the camera.I think ricoh just shot themselves in the foot.

That wins the prize for "dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum".

johnmflores · 10-11-2013, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

What's even funnier is that you're confirming my opinion by being the only one I've seen that's actually excited about it. You know very well in what context I was stating that, that's why you left that out of the quote.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-3/238987-pentax-k-3-video-discussion.html

10,000+ views. Second most popular thread in the K-3 section of the forum.

GibbyTheMole · 10-11-2013, 05:02 AM - **3 Likes**

I'm not buying that... It says "Heiland" on it!

I'm not buying that... It says "Asahi" on it!

I'm not buying that... It says "Honeywell" on it!

I'm not buying that... It says "Hoya" on it!

This thread is chock fulla dumb.

johnmflores · 10-11-2013, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by GibbyTheMole

I'm not buying that... It says "Heiland" on it!

I'm not buying that... It says "Asahi" on it!

I'm not buying that... It says "Honeywell" on it!

I'm not buying that... It says "Hoya" on it!

This thread is chock fulla dumb.

Brilliant!

$5 to the first person that can post a picture of a "Pentax" camera that has no other corporate name on it!

**Digitalis** · 10-11-2013, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

full frame sensor and all of my Pentax lenses so my 24mm F1.4 PK mount lens still has a super-wide angle FOV along with all my other full frame PK mount lenses like my 15mm F2.8 Sigma that has a 180° diag FOV . If you know of a better full frame camera to use all of my PK mount lenses in their native 35mm SLR FOV let me know.

The way things are going with Ricoh - there will be soon enough.

Originally posted by jogiba

My first SLR when I was 19 was the Canon Pellix QL with 58mm F1.2 lens in 1966

I used a Canon EOS 1N RS from my families camera collection a few years back that uses a fixed pellicle mirror, nice camera.

jogiba · 10-11-2013, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Your avatar photo says a lot. It is possible to take a still image with a mirrorless camera, but I have found that having a viewfinder for framing helps a lot.

Steve

The OLED EVF is just as good as an OVF IMHO to frame an image. The K-3 works just like my K-7 with fixed LCD and to me that is obsolete today IMHO.

mickey · 10-11-2013, 05:17 AM

After the name change of the website, I expected name changes on cameras to follow suit.
I hope they don't put Ricoh on the front of the camera, but I think that time will come eventually.
It will be a sad day if Pentax is no longer mentioned in the camera market the same way as Minolta is, but I will still buy a Ricoh-branded DSLR.
Then again, it may be a way to let casual consumers know that Ricoh and Pentax are one and the same.
I've spoken to a lot of people who have only heard of Canon, Nikon and Sony.
And to add, Japan does like its collaborations.

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10-11-2013, 02:59 AM	#136
tabl10s Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento(formerly from B'Ham, England). Posts: 1,424	Originally posted by tuco I think Ricoh on the front of the camera won't matter to a new generation of photographers after the old fogies are long gone. Who you calling an old fogie?

10-11-2013, 03:09 AM	#137
tabl10s Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento(formerly from B'Ham, England). Posts: 1,424	Originally posted by northcoastgreg This strikes me as gratuitous pessimism, particularly given what we've recently seen from Ricoh. Essentially, Ricoh is doing everything they reasonably can to save the Pentax brand. And we're angry because they dare to put their name anywhere on the camera? Why do some people here have such a bad attitude about Ricoh? Would it really be preferable if the Pentax camera division was still run by Hoya? But Hoya didn't want the camera division; they were going to sell it regardless. Under such circumstances, Ricoh seems to me the very best buyer that we could possibly have hoped for. (And if there were a better possible buyer, who would that have been?) Would you rather have a camera with "Hasselblad" or one with "Fisher-Price" added to the name? I've never desired to own anything Ricoh. I didn't know about until a co-worker asked if he could borrow a lens when he thought the mounts looked similar back in '81.

10-11-2013, 03:33 AM - 1 Like	#138
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901	I'm not going to get one basically because it's more camera than I need and I can't afford it anyway but I don't get the heat here over the Ricoh name here. I already have Pentax cameras in the kit that say Honeywell, Asahi, and Hoya. Who cares if one says "Ricoh" too? I'd rather see both but even if it said just "Ricoh" and nothing but "Ricoh" if it means I'll still be able to buy a quality K mount camera and lenses in the future I'm not going to sweat it. I'll still consider myself a Pentaxian and will so long as I own any camera that says Pentax on the front and I have several. I actually have several M42 cameras that are not even Pentax. Most notably I have the GAF, a Sears Chinon and I'm proud to own that. It's an utterly cool camera. Being a Pentaxian isn't just about having the right branding on your camera body. It's about what kind of gear you use. A name is just a name. Names change. So long as the gear stays good that's what really matters. "A rose by any other name, and all..."

10-11-2013, 03:35 AM	#139
Basie Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Windhoek, Namibia Photos: Gallery Posts: 990	Originally posted by pentaxdude I have been waiting for the announcement of the k3 for some time.Now that the camera is out and seeing the pics and seeing "ricoh on the back of the screen turns me off.Only a matter of time before we see Ricoh on the front of the camera.I think ricoh just shot themselves in the foot. My first SLR reflex was a Ricoh K5 ( k5? the same as my pentax ) and then a k10. I wanted Pentax or Nikon or whatever, but the it was I could afford and was told by the seller that it is one of the most underrated cameras. Everybody thinks since it is cheap it should be nasty. It was ( and still is a quality camera and I for one will be proud to display Ricoh on my Pentax

10-11-2013, 04:03 AM	#140
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by Clavius But ruining the esthetics of a perfectly good design by introducing a totally useless feature at 3 times its necessary size creating a huge big hump located in a place nobody wants it, isn't logical either. Funny, that "totally useless feature" is one of the primary reasons I'm getting a K-3. I guess that makes me and everybody else shooting moving pictures nobodies.

10-11-2013, 04:13 AM	#141
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by johnmflores Funny, that "totally useless feature" is one of the primary reasons I'm getting a K-3. I guess that makes me and everybody else shooting moving pictures nobodies. That's impossible! It's totally useless! No one uses totally useless stuff cause it's not wanted! Clavius said so!

10-11-2013, 04:20 AM	#142
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by jogiba I don't plan on purchasing any more cameras with mirrors. Is this some form of photographers Catoptrophobia? Here take my K5IIs - I'll just take the mirror out of it.

10-11-2013, 04:42 AM	#143
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by johnmflores Funny, that "totally useless feature" is one of the primary reasons I'm getting a K-3. I guess that makes me and everybody else shooting moving pictures nobodies. What's even funnier is that you're confirming my opinion by being the only one I've seen that's actually excited about it. You know very well in what context I was stating that, that's why you left that out of the quote.

10-11-2013, 04:46 AM	#144
GibbyTheMole Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Iowa Photos: Albums Posts: 2,275	Originally posted by pentaxdude I have been waiting for the announcement of the k3 for some time.Now that the camera is out and seeing the pics and seeing "ricoh on the back of the screen turns me off.Only a matter of time before we see Ricoh on the front of the camera.I think ricoh just shot themselves in the foot. That wins the prize for "dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum".

10-11-2013, 04:51 AM	#145
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by Clavius What's even funnier is that you're confirming my opinion by being the only one I've seen that's actually excited about it. You know very well in what context I was stating that, that's why you left that out of the quote. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-3/238987-pentax-k-3-video-discussion.html 10,000+ views. Second most popular thread in the K-3 section of the forum.

10-11-2013, 05:02 AM - 3 Likes	#146
GibbyTheMole Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Iowa Photos: Albums Posts: 2,275	I'm not buying that... It says "Heiland" on it! I'm not buying that... It says "Asahi" on it! I'm not buying that... It says "Honeywell" on it! I'm not buying that... It says "Hoya" on it! This thread is chock fulla dumb.

10-11-2013, 05:04 AM	#147
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by GibbyTheMole I'm not buying that... It says "Heiland" on it! I'm not buying that... It says "Asahi" on it! I'm not buying that... It says "Honeywell" on it! I'm not buying that... It says "Hoya" on it! This thread is chock fulla dumb. Brilliant! $5 to the first person that can post a picture of a "Pentax" camera that has no other corporate name on it!

10-11-2013, 05:09 AM	#148
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by jogiba full frame sensor and all of my Pentax lenses so my 24mm F1.4 PK mount lens still has a super-wide angle FOV along with all my other full frame PK mount lenses like my 15mm F2.8 Sigma that has a 180° diag FOV . If you know of a better full frame camera to use all of my PK mount lenses in their native 35mm SLR FOV let me know. The way things are going with Ricoh - there will be soon enough. Originally posted by jogiba My first SLR when I was 19 was the Canon Pellix QL with 58mm F1.2 lens in 1966 I used a Canon EOS 1N RS from my families camera collection a few years back that uses a fixed pellicle mirror, nice camera.

10-11-2013, 05:10 AM	#149
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by stevebrot Your avatar photo says a lot. It is possible to take a still image with a mirrorless camera, but I have found that having a viewfinder for framing helps a lot. Steve The OLED EVF is just as good as an OVF IMHO to frame an image. The K-3 works just like my K-7 with fixed LCD and to me that is obsolete today IMHO.

10-11-2013, 05:17 AM	#150
mickey Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,146	After the name change of the website, I expected name changes on cameras to follow suit. I hope they don't put Ricoh on the front of the camera, but I think that time will come eventually. It will be a sad day if Pentax is no longer mentioned in the camera market the same way as Minolta is, but I will still buy a Ricoh-branded DSLR. Then again, it may be a way to let casual consumers know that Ricoh and Pentax are one and the same. I've spoken to a lot of people who have only heard of Canon, Nikon and Sony. And to add, Japan does like its collaborations.