why I won't buy a k3 (Warning: Satire Thread)

**savoche** · 01-13-2015, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by cbope

We pay enough taxes, I don't think there are additional taxes for studded tires here. They just replace the road surface every few years on heavily used asphalt roads; concrete and cobblestone lasts a lot longer. In fact, some of the cobblestone streets in Helsinki are a few hundred years old. We also have engine block heaters and interior heaters in our cars to warm them up before we drive. Many parking lots have 230V/10A power sockets for every car for this purpose or you can get a fully self-contained heating unit that doesn't need electricity and you can turn it on from your phone or a remote.

All true over side of the border, too - but I'll still exercise my right to hate anything and everything having to do with winter

Well, both you and the Swedes are better at maintaining your roads than we are, for some reason.

**savoche** · 01-13-2015, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

That's the way things are in Fairbanks. You would have an engine block heater, electric battery blanket, and an A.C. interior heater. For those of you from the tropics; the interior heater is necessary to keep the plastics and vinyl surfaces of the interior from cracking.

Who gives a rats ass about the plastics?! It's my buttocks I fear for.

cbope · 01-13-2015, 02:52 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by savoche

Who gives a rats ass about the plastics?! It's my buttocks I fear for.

Broken, frozen vinyl seats will shred your buttocks in no time! (luckily nobody makes vinyl seats any more!)

**savoche** · 01-13-2015, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by cbope

Broken, frozen vinyl seats will shred your buttocks in no time! (luckily nobody makes vinyl seats any more!)

Good point!

cbope · 01-13-2015, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

You would have an engine block heater, electric battery blanket, and an A.C. interior heater.

I'm pumping about 1800 watts into my car for 2 hours, twice a day. And it's NOT a plug-in hybrid!

Racer X 69 · 01-13-2015, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by savoche

Thanks a lot for the image...

You're welcome!

Originally posted by savoche

I think the word you're looking for is bakkie

Yes, in Afrikaans. But in New Zealand and Australia, it is ute.

Here in the US it is pick up {truck}.

Originally posted by savoche

Oh, and if I haven't said it before: nice car!

Thank you!

**savoche** · 01-13-2015, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Racer X 69

Yes, in Afrikaans. But in New Zealand and Australia, it is ute.

Here in the US it is pick up {truck}.

Pretty much all over Southern Africa, really, but sure, it started with the Afrikaaners.

And in Norwegian it's actually... pick-up

**jac** · 01-13-2015, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

Some things are better left unread.

And obviously some people have no taste (Which helps when eating igunaq. No sense of smell is a benefit as well.)

---------- Post added 01-13-15 at 06:15 PM ----------

Originally posted by cbope

Similar here in Helsinki, a week ago it was -20c, then we got about 15cm snow, it warmed up and now it's +3c. I would much prefer it to be -10c than all this see-saw weather. The whole freeze-thaw cycle sucks to be honest, especially when they don't clean the streets on a regular basis.

We're running a nice comfortable -26 to -28 every day c/w wind and snow.

MarkJerling · 01-13-2015, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by savoche

Pretty much all over Southern Africa, really, but sure, it started with the Afrikaaners.

No idea how they got to "bakkie", which means "small dish". Afrikaans stems from (mostly) Dutch with a bit of other languages thrown in, but the Dutch certainly do not use the word "bakkie" for a ute. (Utility vehicle)

Both in South Africa and here in New Zealand, the usage of words around car terminology can be quite different from the USA: (I prefer the USA terminology - possibly because I've owned a number of American cars.)

UK / RSA / NZ USA
bonnet hood
hood top
petrol gasoline/gas
hub cap wheel cover
boot trunk
cubby hole glove compartment
pavement sidewalk
reverse back up

It's a strange world we live in.

---------- Post added 01-14-15 at 12:35 PM ----------

Originally posted by Jean Poitiers

We vacationed once in Corsica and I may have mistaken this for road kill in a supermarket cheese counter.

I'm pleased to say I like blue cheese, and even a ripe brie, but this takes it too far!

**jac** · 01-13-2015, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by savoche

And then you get an extra tax if you have studded tires...

Every Province and Territory in Canada allows the use of studded tires at some time during the year. (Many ban them between April and October.) in some areas, winter tires and even studs are obligatory. But in Southern Ontario you can only use studs if you are a visitor and then only if they are Scadinavian light weight studs. I believe these to be fabricated by embedding lutefisk in the tire treads but could be mistaken.

r0ckstarr · 01-13-2015, 05:43 PM

I don't have any idea what you all are talking about with studs, but then again, I've been drinking Single Malt for 3 hours now.

**jac** · 01-13-2015, 06:36 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

I don't have any idea what you all are talking about with studs, but then again, I've been drinking Single Malt for 3 hours now.

You and Rupert may not believe this but there is a whole, wide world beyond the borders of the Lone Star. In Canada, we've even been known to have campfires on frozen lakes.

**rod_grant** · 01-13-2015, 07:31 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by savoche

I think the word you're looking for is bakkie

Que??

---------- Post added 01-14-2015 at 01:32 PM ----------

Originally posted by Parallax

Maybe if you're hanging upside-down

Go back a couple of pages and look at the map!

---------- Post added 01-14-2015 at 01:38 PM ----------

Originally posted by Parallax

the interior heater is necessary to keep the plastics and vinyl surfaces of the interior from cracking.

Plastic & vinyl cracks in the sun in sunny "downunder" (are we now to be called "upover" given the corrections made to the maps.)

cbope · 01-13-2015, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by jac

Every Province and Territory in Canada allows the use of studded tires at some time during the year. (Many ban them between April and October.) in some areas, winter tires and even studs are obligatory. But in Southern Ontario you can only use studs if you are a visitor and then only if they are Scadinavian light weight studs. I believe these to be fabricated by embedding lutefisk in the tire treads but could be mistaken.

Winter tires are mandatory in southern Finland from Nov 1 until the end of March. Studs are not required, but most people use them because they work better in more conditions than unstudded tires. So-called "friction" tires (unstudded) have gotten more popular but I have never used them. In the south where I live the weather changes a lot and friction tires just don't work as well with our changing road conditions.

drypenn · 01-13-2015, 10:46 PM

This thread failed me

I've given in and ordered a K3. It should arrive by Monday or Tuesday.

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01-13-2015, 02:45 PM	#13501
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by cbope We pay enough taxes, I don't think there are additional taxes for studded tires here. They just replace the road surface every few years on heavily used asphalt roads; concrete and cobblestone lasts a lot longer. In fact, some of the cobblestone streets in Helsinki are a few hundred years old. We also have engine block heaters and interior heaters in our cars to warm them up before we drive. Many parking lots have 230V/10A power sockets for every car for this purpose or you can get a fully self-contained heating unit that doesn't need electricity and you can turn it on from your phone or a remote. All true over side of the border, too - but I'll still exercise my right to hate anything and everything having to do with winter Well, both you and the Swedes are better at maintaining your roads than we are, for some reason.

01-13-2015, 02:47 PM	#13502
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by Parallax That's the way things are in Fairbanks. You would have an engine block heater, electric battery blanket, and an A.C. interior heater. For those of you from the tropics; the interior heater is necessary to keep the plastics and vinyl surfaces of the interior from cracking. Who gives a rats ass about the plastics?! It's my buttocks I fear for.

01-13-2015, 02:52 PM - 1 Like	#13503
cbope Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Helsinki Posts: 664	Originally posted by savoche Who gives a rats ass about the plastics?! It's my buttocks I fear for. Broken, frozen vinyl seats will shred your buttocks in no time! (luckily nobody makes vinyl seats any more!)

01-13-2015, 02:53 PM	#13504
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by cbope Broken, frozen vinyl seats will shred your buttocks in no time! (luckily nobody makes vinyl seats any more!) Good point!

01-13-2015, 02:53 PM	#13505
cbope Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Helsinki Posts: 664	Originally posted by Parallax You would have an engine block heater, electric battery blanket, and an A.C. interior heater. I'm pumping about 1800 watts into my car for 2 hours, twice a day. And it's NOT a plug-in hybrid!

01-13-2015, 03:01 PM	#13506
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,068	Originally posted by savoche Thanks a lot for the image... You're welcome! Originally posted by savoche I think the word you're looking for is bakkie Yes, in Afrikaans. But in New Zealand and Australia, it is ute. Here in the US it is pick up {truck}. Originally posted by savoche Oh, and if I haven't said it before: nice car! Thank you!

01-13-2015, 03:08 PM	#13507
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by Racer X 69 Yes, in Afrikaans. But in New Zealand and Australia, it is ute. Here in the US it is pick up {truck}. Pretty much all over Southern Africa, really, but sure, it started with the Afrikaaners. And in Norwegian it's actually... pick-up

01-13-2015, 04:10 PM	#13508
jac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Clyde River, Nunavut, Canada Posts: 2,364	Originally posted by VoiceOfReason Some things are better left unread. And obviously some people have no taste (Which helps when eating igunaq. No sense of smell is a benefit as well.) ---------- Post added 01-13-15 at 06:15 PM ---------- Originally posted by cbope Similar here in Helsinki, a week ago it was -20c, then we got about 15cm snow, it warmed up and now it's +3c. I would much prefer it to be -10c than all this see-saw weather. The whole freeze-thaw cycle sucks to be honest, especially when they don't clean the streets on a regular basis. We're running a nice comfortable -26 to -28 every day c/w wind and snow.

01-13-2015, 04:34 PM	#13509
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by savoche Pretty much all over Southern Africa, really, but sure, it started with the Afrikaaners. No idea how they got to "bakkie", which means "small dish". Afrikaans stems from (mostly) Dutch with a bit of other languages thrown in, but the Dutch certainly do not use the word "bakkie" for a ute. (Utility vehicle) Both in South Africa and here in New Zealand, the usage of words around car terminology can be quite different from the USA: (I prefer the USA terminology - possibly because I've owned a number of American cars.) UK / RSA / NZ USA bonnet hood hood top petrol gasoline/gas hub cap wheel cover boot trunk cubby hole glove compartment pavement sidewalk reverse back up It's a strange world we live in. ---------- Post added 01-14-15 at 12:35 PM ---------- Originally posted by Jean Poitiers We vacationed once in Corsica and I may have mistaken this for road kill in a supermarket cheese counter. I'm pleased to say I like blue cheese, and even a ripe brie, but this takes it too far!

01-13-2015, 04:48 PM	#13510
jac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Clyde River, Nunavut, Canada Posts: 2,364	Originally posted by savoche And then you get an extra tax if you have studded tires... Every Province and Territory in Canada allows the use of studded tires at some time during the year. (Many ban them between April and October.) in some areas, winter tires and even studs are obligatory. But in Southern Ontario you can only use studs if you are a visitor and then only if they are Scadinavian light weight studs. I believe these to be fabricated by embedding lutefisk in the tire treads but could be mistaken.

01-13-2015, 05:43 PM	#13511
r0ckstarr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,507	I don't have any idea what you all are talking about with studs, but then again, I've been drinking Single Malt for 3 hours now.

01-13-2015, 06:36 PM - 2 Likes	#13512
jac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Clyde River, Nunavut, Canada Posts: 2,364	Originally posted by r0ckstarr I don't have any idea what you all are talking about with studs, but then again, I've been drinking Single Malt for 3 hours now. You and Rupert may not believe this but there is a whole, wide world beyond the borders of the Lone Star. In Canada, we've even been known to have campfires on frozen lakes.

01-13-2015, 07:31 PM - 1 Like	#13513
rod_grant Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wangaratta, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,951	Originally posted by savoche I think the word you're looking for is bakkie Que?? ---------- Post added 01-14-2015 at 01:32 PM ---------- Originally posted by Parallax Maybe if you're hanging upside-down Go back a couple of pages and look at the map! ---------- Post added 01-14-2015 at 01:38 PM ---------- Originally posted by Parallax the interior heater is necessary to keep the plastics and vinyl surfaces of the interior from cracking. Plastic & vinyl cracks in the sun in sunny "downunder" (are we now to be called "upover" given the corrections made to the maps.)

01-13-2015, 10:31 PM	#13514
cbope Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Helsinki Posts: 664	Originally posted by jac Every Province and Territory in Canada allows the use of studded tires at some time during the year. (Many ban them between April and October.) in some areas, winter tires and even studs are obligatory. But in Southern Ontario you can only use studs if you are a visitor and then only if they are Scadinavian light weight studs. I believe these to be fabricated by embedding lutefisk in the tire treads but could be mistaken. Winter tires are mandatory in southern Finland from Nov 1 until the end of March. Studs are not required, but most people use them because they work better in more conditions than unstudded tires. So-called "friction" tires (unstudded) have gotten more popular but I have never used them. In the south where I live the weather changes a lot and friction tires just don't work as well with our changing road conditions.

01-13-2015, 10:46 PM	#13515
drypenn Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 963	This thread failed me I've given in and ordered a K3. It should arrive by Monday or Tuesday.