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tim60 · 03-04-2015, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

In the case of antibiotics, greed isn't the problem; from the medical side anyway. It's a loooong history of combination of doctors prescribing them unnecessarily to placate a patient (or a ped patient's parent) and of patients for whom it was appropriately prescribed not taking it for the full prescribed term. Both cases expose bacteria to the drug but not enough to kill everything, which allows them to build resistance.
In regards to the greed issue, the ag industry's use of them is a different issue.

I suspect another factor is that in some countries, particularly where the doctor sells the medicine to the patient, not a third party pharmacy, the doctor sells a few days' course of AB with instructions to return. But the patient feels a bit better and does not return.

Another thing I have found interesting is the discussion of hospital infections related to resistance of the bugs to the fancy pharmaceutical industry antibacterial chemicals. But I have never heard mention of resistance of bugs to the old traditional cleansing agents such as ammonia, or iodine or alcohol, which worked on gross physical attack rather than subtle biological attack. Somehow the chemical companies have got everyone excited by their better smelling products.

Jean Poitiers · 03-04-2015, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

I AM the onion.

Next question...

Steve

So you are an O ...

You Tube

tim60 · 03-04-2015, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Jean Poitiers

So you are an O ...

Ogres Are Like Onions - Analogies - YouTube

That guy was on TV here last weekend.

Racer X 69 · 03-04-2015, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

I AM the onion.

I am the Eggman

They are the Eggmen

I am the Walrus

Goo goo g' joob

stevebrot · 03-04-2015, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Jean Poitiers

So you are an O ...

Only when I get angry.

Steve

Joel B · 03-04-2015, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Racer X 69

I am the Eggman They are the Eggmen I am the Walrus Goo goo g' joob

We aren't going back around to that long haired Ringo wannabe with a camera again are we?!?

Joel B · 03-04-2015, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by tim60

ammonia, or iodine or alcohol

Bleach! I like bleach! No school like the old school!

normhead · 03-04-2015, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

That has nothing remotely to do with politics.

It's all in the mind of the beholder, who the heck is the "beholder" anyway? Has anyone ever met him or her?

FantasticMrFox · 03-04-2015, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by normhead

It's all in the mind of the beholder, who the heck is the "beholder" anyway? Has anyone ever met him or her?

There was a user called 'Beholder' on the German DSLR Forum - he made most of his posts in the 'Nude' category gallery, so I guess the beauty was indeed in his eyes.

**Ex Finn.** · 03-04-2015, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by Jean Poitiers

So you are an O ...

Ogres Are Like Onions - Analogies - YouTube

You beat me to it.

stevebrot · 03-04-2015, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by normhead

who the heck is the "beholder" anyway?

The hociR's half-brother...

Steve

normhead · 03-04-2015, 06:33 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FantasticMrFox

There was a user called 'Beholder' on the German DSLR Forum - he made most of his posts in the 'Nude' category gallery, so I guess the beauty was indeed in his eyes.

That brings up the question, can you really think you know a woman if you haven't seen her with her clothes off? Otherwise she might be hiding something.

magkelly · 03-04-2015, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by normhead

That brings up the question, can you really think you know a woman if you haven't seen her with her clothes off? Otherwise she might be hiding something.

Newsflash, you can see a woman naked 200X a day but unless she wants you to, trusts you, you will never REALLY know her. Some women are pretty much what you see is what you get types, but most of the women I've known in my life they have busy inner lives. They hold secrets their men seldom if ever learn about.

tim60 · 03-04-2015, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by Joel B

Bleach! I like bleach! No school like the old school!

Thanks. I forgot to mention bleach. We use that at home for tasks such as dunny cleaning. The smell can get over-powering when cleaning the inside to the shower cubical door because of the lack of ventilation.

**savoche** · 03-04-2015, 11:59 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by stevebrot

Only when I get angry.

Hey, I've heard of you, I think, back in the 80ies. The Incredible Sulk, wasn't it?

03-04-2015, 03:36 PM	#15174
FantasticMrFox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Munich Posts: 2,339	Originally posted by normhead It's all in the mind of the beholder, who the heck is the "beholder" anyway? Has anyone ever met him or her? There was a user called 'Beholder' on the German DSLR Forum - he made most of his posts in the 'Nude' category gallery, so I guess the beauty was indeed in his eyes. Last edited by FantasticMrFox; 03-04-2015 at 03:54 PM.

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03-04-2015, 01:01 PM	#15166
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,758	Originally posted by Parallax In the case of antibiotics, greed isn't the problem; from the medical side anyway. It's a loooong history of combination of doctors prescribing them unnecessarily to placate a patient (or a ped patient's parent) and of patients for whom it was appropriately prescribed not taking it for the full prescribed term. Both cases expose bacteria to the drug but not enough to kill everything, which allows them to build resistance. In regards to the greed issue, the ag industry's use of them is a different issue. I suspect another factor is that in some countries, particularly where the doctor sells the medicine to the patient, not a third party pharmacy, the doctor sells a few days' course of AB with instructions to return. But the patient feels a bit better and does not return. Another thing I have found interesting is the discussion of hospital infections related to resistance of the bugs to the fancy pharmaceutical industry antibacterial chemicals. But I have never heard mention of resistance of bugs to the old traditional cleansing agents such as ammonia, or iodine or alcohol, which worked on gross physical attack rather than subtle biological attack. Somehow the chemical companies have got everyone excited by their better smelling products.

03-04-2015, 01:08 PM	#15168
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,758	Originally posted by Jean Poitiers So you are an O ... Ogres Are Like Onions - Analogies - YouTube That guy was on TV here last weekend.

03-04-2015, 01:37 PM	#15169
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,077	Originally posted by stevebrot I AM the onion. I am the Eggman They are the Eggmen I am the Walrus Goo goo g' joob

03-04-2015, 01:49 PM	#15170
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Jean Poitiers So you are an O ... Only when I get angry. Steve

03-04-2015, 03:16 PM	#15171
Joel B Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barnett MO. Photos: Albums Posts: 2,336	Originally posted by Racer X 69 I am the Eggman They are the Eggmen I am the Walrus Goo goo g' joob We aren't going back around to that long haired Ringo wannabe with a camera again are we?!?

03-04-2015, 03:18 PM	#15172
Joel B Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barnett MO. Photos: Albums Posts: 2,336	Originally posted by tim60 ammonia, or iodine or alcohol Bleach! I like bleach! No school like the old school!

03-04-2015, 03:21 PM	#15173
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Parallax That has nothing remotely to do with politics. It's all in the mind of the beholder, who the heck is the "beholder" anyway? Has anyone ever met him or her?

03-04-2015, 03:53 PM	#15175
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by Jean Poitiers So you are an O ... Ogres Are Like Onions - Analogies - YouTube You beat me to it.

03-04-2015, 05:30 PM	#15176
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by normhead who the heck is the "beholder" anyway? The hociR's half-brother... Steve

03-04-2015, 06:33 PM - 1 Like	#15177
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by FantasticMrFox There was a user called 'Beholder' on the German DSLR Forum - he made most of his posts in the 'Nude' category gallery, so I guess the beauty was indeed in his eyes. That brings up the question, can you really think you know a woman if you haven't seen her with her clothes off? Otherwise she might be hiding something.

03-04-2015, 08:24 PM	#15178
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901	Originally posted by normhead That brings up the question, can you really think you know a woman if you haven't seen her with her clothes off? Otherwise she might be hiding something. Newsflash, you can see a woman naked 200X a day but unless she wants you to, trusts you, you will never REALLY know her. Some women are pretty much what you see is what you get types, but most of the women I've known in my life they have busy inner lives. They hold secrets their men seldom if ever learn about.

03-04-2015, 09:00 PM	#15179
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,758	Originally posted by Joel B Bleach! I like bleach! No school like the old school! Thanks. I forgot to mention bleach. We use that at home for tasks such as dunny cleaning. The smell can get over-powering when cleaning the inside to the shower cubical door because of the lack of ventilation.

03-04-2015, 11:59 PM - 2 Likes	#15180
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,312	Originally posted by stevebrot Only when I get angry. Hey, I've heard of you, I think, back in the 80ies. The Incredible Sulk, wasn't it?

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