why I won't buy a k3 (Warning: Satire Thread)

dansamy · 12-12-2015, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Good point.
Even that isn't too worrisome, but if he starts arguing with himself we may need to intervene.

No, no, no! Intervening is dangerous. One or both might turn against us!!

Best to medicate from afar. Blow gun with an elephant shot. (Haldol, Ativan & benadryl.) I personally don't know why we can't still just thorazine them into catatonia. Worked for decades.

**THoog** · 12-12-2015, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

f he starts arguing with himself we may need to intervene.

I never argue with myself in public - that's just inconsiderate to others.

Jean Poitiers · 12-12-2015, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by THoog

It's a more complicated formula than that. The future FF photog is N times the photog you are, where:

N= 1.5 * (number of megapixels the fFF has) / (number of MP your camera has) * (weight of fFF) / (weight of your camera) * (list price of their best lens) / (list price of your best lens)

There are some other, fairly minor factors, like years of experience or actual paid work done, but this gives a good first approximation.

Oh ... OK.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I think.

**savoche** · 12-12-2015, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by THoog

Yep - this was just for APS-C vs FF. The general formula was going to be too wide to fit on the screen. (yes, I started to write it) (facepalm)

It's not really necessary to do such a thing. We all know the correct answer anyway - it is, and will always be, FF. If you have an APS-C (or smaller) bigger is better, and the cost is of no concern. If you pull larger formats into the mix, they are all of a sudden too big, and oooh the cost...

Good luck fitting that into your formula

Jean Poitiers · 12-12-2015, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by savoche

...unless your camera is a 645. Then all of that is turned upside down

Why would anyone shoot upside-down with a 645 ?!

And nobody told me that, so I am quite hacked off now

... because there's a 645 in the mail to me with a 55/2.8 and a 150/3.5 plus case.

Where's that wine bottle now ... argh.

**savoche** · 12-12-2015, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Jean Poitiers

Why would anyone shoot upside-down with a 645 ?!

And nobody told me that, so I am quite hacked off now

... because there's a 645 in the mail to me with a 55/2.8 and a 150/3.5 plus case.

Where's that wine bottle now ... argh.

What, have you never looked through a waist-level finder?

And no use whining over yesterday's wine!

Parallax · 12-12-2015, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by dansamy

(Haldol, Ativan & benadryl.)

I was thinking Amytal, but then, maybe hypnotics aren't the best approach.

**THoog** · 12-12-2015, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by savoche

they are all of a sudden too big, and oooh the cost...

too big? No such thing to the "more photog than thou" types. We're talking about people who play the "man enough" card (as in "well, if you're not man enough to carry a body with grip and 1kg lens all day for walkaround shooting...").

(yes, I have someone in particular in mind, and no, it wasn't directed at me - I wasn't even in the conversation - but it won them a slot in my BorisCleto'ed™ list, just on principal.)

Jean Poitiers · 12-12-2015, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by savoche

What, have you never looked through a waist-level finder?

And no use whining over yesterday's wine!

Jean Poitiers · 12-12-2015, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by savoche

What, have you never looked through a waist-level finder?

And no use whining over yesterday's wine!

I beg to differ, mon ami ... one can always wine over yesterday's whine !!!

Especially if you're French, like me ... it's a national sport here.

normhead · 12-12-2015, 09:28 AM

Wine if in France, beer in Canada, but where Iive in Ontario wine grows more popular every year. I think civilization is finally starting to take hold. Not with me maybe , but clearly with some element of the population.

**savoche** · 12-12-2015, 11:18 AM

Beer. Or rather Christmas beer. The one thing that makes this time of year worth while. Brings a bit of happiness in the darkness of winter, one bottle at a time.

Cheers!

Racer X 69 · 12-12-2015, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by THoog

It's a more complicated formula than that. The future FF photog is N times the photog you are, where:

N= 1.5 * (number of megapixels the fFF has) / (number of MP your camera has) * (weight of fFF) / (weight of your camera) * (list price of their best lens) / (list price of your best lens)

There are some other, fairly minor factors, like years of experience or actual paid work done, but this gives a good first approximation.

And we now know why it was important to know algebra.

normhead · 12-12-2015, 11:39 AM

That reminds me of a story from years ago.

There was a family living next door to me, one day, my neighbour seeing my camera called me over and said :"I have a camera like that, it's a Minolta."
So of course I politely said "it must be a nice camera.'
He says "ya but Im having a problem with it.'
I said "Oh ya, what's the problem"
He said "It only takes slides, it always costs extra to get pictures."
I said, "You are buying prepaid slide film where the cost of developing is included in the cost as well as the next roll of film, and you're buying slide film not negative film. You have to buy a colour negative type film."
He said "That's what my wife said, but I didn't think she knew anything, she's younger than me."

My head has never stopped shaking. "Huh?"

Racer X 69 · 12-12-2015, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Jean Poitiers

Looks like the view when composing a shot with my Cambo.

Upside down and backwards.

12-12-2015, 09:28 AM	#21536
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Wine if in France, beer in Canada, but where Iive in Ontario wine grows more popular every year. I think civilization is finally starting to take hold. Not with me maybe , but clearly with some element of the population. Last edited by normhead; 12-12-2015 at 11:34 AM.

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12-12-2015, 08:10 AM	#21526
dansamy Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,450	Originally posted by Parallax Good point. Even that isn't too worrisome, but if he starts arguing with himself we may need to intervene. No, no, no! Intervening is dangerous. One or both might turn against us!! Best to medicate from afar. Blow gun with an elephant shot. (Haldol, Ativan & benadryl.) I personally don't know why we can't still just thorazine them into catatonia. Worked for decades.

12-12-2015, 08:14 AM	#21527
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by Parallax f he starts arguing with himself we may need to intervene. I never argue with myself in public - that's just inconsiderate to others.

12-12-2015, 08:18 AM	#21528
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by THoog It's a more complicated formula than that. The future FF photog is N times the photog you are, where: N= 1.5 * (number of megapixels the fFF has) / (number of MP your camera has) * (weight of fFF) / (weight of your camera) * (list price of their best lens) / (list price of your best lens) There are some other, fairly minor factors, like years of experience or actual paid work done, but this gives a good first approximation. Oh ... OK. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I think.

12-12-2015, 08:21 AM	#21529
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by THoog Yep - this was just for APS-C vs FF. The general formula was going to be too wide to fit on the screen. (yes, I started to write it) (facepalm) It's not really necessary to do such a thing. We all know the correct answer anyway - it is, and will always be, FF. If you have an APS-C (or smaller) bigger is better, and the cost is of no concern. If you pull larger formats into the mix, they are all of a sudden too big, and oooh the cost... Good luck fitting that into your formula

12-12-2015, 08:25 AM	#21530
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by savoche ...unless your camera is a 645. Then all of that is turned upside down Why would anyone shoot upside-down with a 645 ?! And nobody told me that, so I am quite hacked off now ... because there's a 645 in the mail to me with a 55/2.8 and a 150/3.5 plus case. Where's that wine bottle now ... argh.

12-12-2015, 08:49 AM	#21531
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by Jean Poitiers Why would anyone shoot upside-down with a 645 ?! And nobody told me that, so I am quite hacked off now ... because there's a 645 in the mail to me with a 55/2.8 and a 150/3.5 plus case. Where's that wine bottle now ... argh. What, have you never looked through a waist-level finder? And no use whining over yesterday's wine!

12-12-2015, 08:51 AM	#21532
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by dansamy (Haldol, Ativan & benadryl.) I was thinking Amytal, but then, maybe hypnotics aren't the best approach.

12-12-2015, 09:02 AM	#21533
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by savoche they are all of a sudden too big, and oooh the cost... too big? No such thing to the "more photog than thou" types. We're talking about people who play the "man enough" card (as in "well, if you're not man enough to carry a body with grip and 1kg lens all day for walkaround shooting..."). (yes, I have someone in particular in mind, and no, it wasn't directed at me - I wasn't even in the conversation - but it won them a slot in my BorisCleto'ed™ list, just on principal.)

12-12-2015, 09:15 AM	#21534
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by savoche What, have you never looked through a waist-level finder? And no use whining over yesterday's wine!

12-12-2015, 09:19 AM	#21535
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by savoche What, have you never looked through a waist-level finder? And no use whining over yesterday's wine! I beg to differ, *mon ami* ... one can always wine over yesterday's whine !!! Especially if you're French, like me ... it's a national sport here.

12-12-2015, 11:18 AM	#21537
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Beer. Or rather Christmas beer. The one thing that makes this time of year worth while. Brings a bit of happiness in the darkness of winter, one bottle at a time. Cheers!

12-12-2015, 11:37 AM	#21538
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,065	Originally posted by THoog It's a more complicated formula than that. The future FF photog is N times the photog you are, where: N= 1.5 * (number of megapixels the fFF has) / (number of MP your camera has) * (weight of fFF) / (weight of your camera) * (list price of their best lens) / (list price of your best lens) There are some other, fairly minor factors, like years of experience or actual paid work done, but this gives a good first approximation. And we now know why it was important to know algebra.

12-12-2015, 11:39 AM	#21539
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	That reminds me of a story from years ago. There was a family living next door to me, one day, my neighbour seeing my camera called me over and said :"I have a camera like that, it's a Minolta." So of course I politely said "it must be a nice camera.' He says "ya but Im having a problem with it.' I said "Oh ya, what's the problem" He said "It only takes slides, it always costs extra to get pictures." I said, "You are buying prepaid slide film where the cost of developing is included in the cost as well as the next roll of film, and you're buying slide film not negative film. You have to buy a colour negative type film." He said "That's what my wife said, but I didn't think she knew anything, she's younger than me." My head has never stopped shaking. "Huh?"

12-12-2015, 11:39 AM	#21540
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,065	Originally posted by Jean Poitiers Looks like the view when composing a shot with my Cambo. Upside down and backwards.