Sorry Pentax it is not enough....

**TER-OR** · 10-11-2013, 05:32 AM - **1 Like**

So we finally have a K3 which brings in (all based on specs, not experience yet) a markedly improved autofocus, dual card slots with wireless tethering, improved and featured video, improved physical controls, 24MP sensor, enhanced weathersealing with WR flashes and new WR lenses, and newly innovative use of the floating sensor.

Nope. Not enough. It's not FF, so it's rubbish.

Honestly, I'm beginning to view FF as kind of a fetish. It's simply not required. Would it be interesting to see this camera with a FF system? Sure, and maybe we'll see it. It's not necessary for enthusiasts, though.

jogiba · 10-11-2013, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by TaoMaas

Do the Canon and Nikon boards get these kinds of threads where folks threaten to sell all their gear and switch to Pentax because Canon/Nikon refuse to make medium format cameras...even though neither of them have ever said they were going to build such a camera and currently don't have a lens line-up in place to support one?

Nikon D800E vs. Pentax 645D - Conclusion - PentaxForums.com

TaoMaas · 10-11-2013, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

Nikon D800E vs. Pentax 645D - Conclusion - PentaxForums.com

Actual performance has nothing to do with it. It's all about the sensor size. Haven't you heard?

jogiba · 10-11-2013, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by TaoMaas

Actual performance has nothing to do with it. It's all about the sensor size. Haven't you heard?

There are 25 million full frame Pentax lenses out there and none of them work with the 645D.

twophase · 10-11-2013, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

Incorrect, the standard for professional work is whatever gets the job done best - I don't know where you are getting all this rubbish about full frame. I know professional photographers who do excellent work with APS-C cameras, FX format, medium format and Large format. I really don't see any particular format as professional - though some formats require more skill to use than others - the fact that you are hung up on Full frame FX format as being more professional speaks volumes about you. If you really think a bigger sensor is going to make your work professional? - I hate burst your bubble, but professionalism is more than some thing that can be bought at a camera store.

My family have been using pentax cameras for longer than you have, although I use Leica, Arca-Swiss, Sinar, Ebony, Alpa, Hasselblad, Nikon and Canon cameras - There will always be room for Pentax cameras on my shelf.

beautiful photo!!!!

TaoMaas · 10-11-2013, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

There are 25 million full frame Pentax lenses out there and none of them work with the 645D.

Okay then...there's old Nikkors in Bronica mounts that cover medium format, too, but you still don't hear Nikon guys whining about no medium format digital, do you?

**monochrome** · 10-11-2013, 06:03 AM

Post #37. Dude didn't meet his goal - not enough flames on this thread yet.

C'mon, Pentaxians, feed the guy!

jogiba · 10-11-2013, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by TaoMaas

Okay then...there's old Nikkors in Bronica mounts that cover medium format, too, but you still don't hear Nikon guys whining about no medium format digital, do you?

What exactly does that have to do with wanting a full frame camera to use with the 25 million full frame Pentax lenses ?

SpecialK · 10-11-2013, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by WaveDancer

You have to care!

...by end of 2014, if by then Pentax has no topclass FF - body, I'll switch to Nikon... this after 40 years Pentax!

We don't care.

You should leave Pentax now, to save time.

GordonZA · 10-11-2013, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Post #37. Dude didn't meet his goal - not enough flames on this thread yet.

C'mon, Pentaxians, feed the guy!

Lol!!

To the OP, get a canon then you can have real issues to moan about...

SyncGuy · 10-11-2013, 06:51 AM

The best part from OP?

After 40yrs, he believes that FF is the standard for professional. Sheesh...
Tells a lot of his experience...

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10-11-2013, 05:32 AM - 1 Like	#31
TER-OR Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dundee, IL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,699	So we finally have a K3 which brings in (all based on specs, not experience yet) a markedly improved autofocus, dual card slots with wireless tethering, improved and featured video, improved physical controls, 24MP sensor, enhanced weathersealing with WR flashes and new WR lenses, and newly innovative use of the floating sensor. Nope. Not enough. It's not FF, so it's rubbish. Honestly, I'm beginning to view FF as kind of a fetish. It's simply not required. Would it be interesting to see this camera with a FF system? Sure, and maybe we'll see it. It's not necessary for enthusiasts, though.

10-11-2013, 05:34 AM	#32
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by TaoMaas Do the Canon and Nikon boards get these kinds of threads where folks threaten to sell all their gear and switch to Pentax because Canon/Nikon refuse to make medium format cameras...even though neither of them have ever said they were going to build such a camera and currently don't have a lens line-up in place to support one? Nikon D800E vs. Pentax 645D - Conclusion - PentaxForums.com

10-11-2013, 05:39 AM	#33
TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	Originally posted by jogiba Nikon D800E vs. Pentax 645D - Conclusion - PentaxForums.com Actual performance has nothing to do with it. It's all about the sensor size. Haven't you heard?

10-11-2013, 05:44 AM	#34
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by TaoMaas Actual performance has nothing to do with it. It's all about the sensor size. Haven't you heard? There are 25 million full frame Pentax lenses out there and none of them work with the 645D.

10-11-2013, 05:53 AM	#35
twophase Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 33	Originally posted by Digitalis Incorrect, the standard for professional work is whatever gets the job done best - I don't know where you are getting all this rubbish about full frame. I know professional photographers who do excellent work with APS-C cameras, FX format, medium format and Large format. I really don't see any particular format as professional - though some formats require more skill to use than others - the fact that you are hung up on Full frame FX format as being more professional speaks volumes about you. If you really think a bigger sensor is going to make your work professional? - I hate burst your bubble, but professionalism is more than some thing that can be bought at a camera store. My family have been using pentax cameras for longer than you have, although I use Leica, Arca-Swiss, Sinar, Ebony, Alpa, Hasselblad, Nikon and Canon cameras - There will always be room for Pentax cameras on my shelf. beautiful photo!!!!

10-11-2013, 05:55 AM	#36
TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	Originally posted by jogiba There are 25 million full frame Pentax lenses out there and none of them work with the 645D. Okay then...there's old Nikkors in Bronica mounts that cover medium format, too, but you still don't hear Nikon guys whining about no medium format digital, do you?

10-11-2013, 06:03 AM	#37
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Post #37. Dude didn't meet his goal - not enough flames on this thread yet. C'mon, Pentaxians, feed the guy!

10-11-2013, 06:14 AM	#38
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by TaoMaas Okay then...there's old Nikkors in Bronica mounts that cover medium format, too, but you still don't hear Nikon guys whining about no medium format digital, do you? What exactly does that have to do with wanting a full frame camera to use with the 25 million full frame Pentax lenses ?

10-11-2013, 06:15 AM	#39
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,480	Originally posted by WaveDancer You have to care! ...by end of 2014, if by then Pentax has no topclass FF - body, I'll switch to Nikon... this after 40 years Pentax! We don't care. You should leave Pentax now, to save time.

10-11-2013, 06:15 AM	#40
GordonZA Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Planet Earth Photos: Albums Posts: 351	Originally posted by monochrome Post #37. Dude didn't meet his goal - not enough flames on this thread yet. C'mon, Pentaxians, feed the guy! Lol!! To the OP, get a canon then you can have real issues to moan about...

10-11-2013, 06:51 AM	#41
SyncGuy Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 821	The best part from OP? After 40yrs, he believes that FF is the standard for professional. Sheesh... Tells a lot of his experience...