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10-15-2013, 11:38 AM   #1
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K-3 Firmware wishes....

So maybe a little early, but with the specs out, maybe we miss something. When the camera is in our hands, I know for sure we want some changes. So this is for wishes that can be implementaded in the camera, so no hardware wishes.

10-15-2013, 11:40 AM   #2
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Video HD wide

I would like to have the option for widescreen video.

2560 x 1080 pixels and 30p/25p/24p

This would be great for musicvideo and other smaller video productions.

I hope and think it can be implemented in the firmware and PRIME III has power enough to run it. Even when only 24p was possible that would be great.
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ability to select screw drive OR lens motor.
lenses like the 16-50, 50-135 have both screw drive and SDM. If you ever get SDM problems, just select screw drive and continue shooting
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Both sound like excellent ideas. I am sure they will be available in the up-coming FF model.

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Ability to disable the annoying zoom squares/triangles in LV with AF lenses...if the K-3 has it. Auto synch with the FLU/Eye-Fy/Toshiba cards. Ability to use the fastest SDHC's, auto lens calibration and the capability to correct the horizon by Bluetooth as well as on the camera itself.

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A cropped video mode like Canon does. Just take the center 640*480 pixels at an uncompressed 60fps or higher, ignoring the rest of the sensor. I want it for solar system astrophotography, but think it could also be useful for high-speed action.
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Ron, aren't you going to squeeze APS-h into this thread? I'm so disappointed. I was thinking maybe and APS-c crop of the APS-h sensor for the traditionalists.
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- A 1.3 'DX-crop' mode option, like the D7100, for still images and video ...

- Add another numeric digit or two to the file name counter limit. Currently the image counter goes sequentially up to 9999 (eg IMGP9999.DNG), then the camera resets the counter and starts recording filenames sequentially again as 0000 (eg IMGP0000.DNG). Since both my K-x and K-5 do this, on several occasions I've had batches of images floating around my computer with duplicate file names (ie multiple IMGP1234.DNG's on the computer, albeit usually in different folders). There are ways to work around this, of course, but it would be better to have the issue addressed at source (ie in-camera), by allowing the counter to record past 4 digits - eg to 'IMG99999.DNG', or even 'IM999999.DNG'.

- Voice memos? Audio only recording? The camera has a mic, speakers and a headphone jack. Why not provide a feature to let it record voice memos and/or audio only recordings generally (in MP3 format or similar). Currently to record audio you need to record a video. Even my old FinePix F10 point-and-shoot let me record voice memos in the field, and associate them with particular images. It was a very handy note taking feature. And audio-only recording would be very handy itself sometimes, and certainly much more efficient than having to record a movie.

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How about multiple colors for focus peaking, along with intensities
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QuoteOriginally posted by jrcastillo Quote
ability to select screw drive OR lens motor.
lenses like the 16-50, 50-135 have both screw drive and SDM. If you ever get SDM problems, just select screw drive and continue shooting
Second the screw drive idea for my cranky 50-135.
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Second the screw drive idea for my cranky 50-135.
3rd the screw drive idea. Does the screw drive look faster on youtube?
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An idea I already had for the K-5 was to be able to "mark" images in the camera. So when you make that great image, of multiple on a day shooting, that you just can look at the "marked" images at the end and not have to browse again true the whole stack.
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
aren't you going to squeeze APS-h into this thread? I'm so disappointed.
I was surprised he didn't mention it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
So this is for wishes that can be implementaded in the camera, so no hardware wishes.
QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
Ron, aren't you going to squeeze APS-h into this thread? I'm so disappointed. I was thinking maybe and APS-c crop of the APS-h sensor for the traditionalists.
QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
I was surprised he didn't mention it.
Remember our wishlist for the K-5? There are still some wishes on that list that are not yet available in the K-3.




QuoteOriginally posted by kevinschoenmakers Quote
The Short List - Limited to suggestions that are simple, popular and ideally both. Complete List below.

RAW
- 12bit RAW setting
- True RAW histogram

Movie Mode
- 1080p 24fps, 720p 24fps and 60fps
- AF during movie capture
- More manual control (ISO, shutter speed, sound options)
- Improved sound quality

Flash
- HSS Flash ability
- Allow full P-TTL with manual lenses by firing the metering flash after the lens was stop-down (it works with m42s!).
- second curtain synch with manual lenses
- Ability to do trailing curtain sync with any flash / wireless trigger.

Buttons
- Addition of SR on/off option to Fx button functionality.
- Addition of HDR Capture option to Fx button functionality.
- Addition of turn on/off catch in focus to Fx button functionality.
- When viewing images, the Fx button or green button temporarily shows dark/bright areas or histogram.
- Ability to assign the green button/fx button/preview dial to instantly record a movie.
- Top screen illumination activated by pressing the exposure compensation button (as on the K10D).
- In playback mode, holding the Exp.Comp. button shows detailed image information and a histogram.

Auto-Focus
- Allow Catch-In-Focus with all AF lenses when in MF mode by pressing the AF button (unused in MF)
- Option to enable that, in SEL AF mode, the four-way controller reverts to focus point selection on shutter half-press.
- AF-SR priority. Just like AF-S with focus priority, but only shoot when the shaking has reached a level where the camera thinks it can handle it.
- Add a new option to C14 : Superimpose AF Area: 1. On; 2. Off; 3. On selection only.
- Wider range of AF adjustment.

Menu's and the like
- Ability to save an initial setting for User modes. Eg: If the mode is Tv, an initial shutter speed can be saved.
- USER menu where one can assign frequently used menu items.
- Option to enable autorotation during playback (that is seperated from the option to record rotation data).
- Ability for the camera to count past 9999.
- An option to let the user pick 2 or 3 things that could be added to the Control panel.

Shooting options
- Option to set Continuous Shooting Lo speed
- Larger bracketing interval, ideally 9 shots instead of five
- Mirror lock-up for bracketing shots.
- Display a timer on the top LCD during Bulb mode
- Remove 30s limit in modes other than Bulb mode
- For manual lenses, use the focal length value for auto-iso handling.
- More then 999 interval shots.

Other
- Tethering.
- Add an option to turn raw-level NR off or, make it kick in at a configurable ISO level.




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With the K-5 Pentax has shown to listen to their users. So let's help them by making a list of suggested firmware updates. Hopefully we'll be getting at least one more update beyond the one that's going to released soon.

I personally have 3 things I wish my K-5 could do:

- Option to set Continuous Shooting Lo (to, for example, 4fps)
- When reviewing images, the RAW/Fx button or green button temporarily shows dark/bright areas or histogram.
- Top screen illumination activated by pressing the exposure compensation button (as on the K10D)

Please suggest your own, but keep it limited to things that are actually firmware related. If possible I will update this post with a complete list of suggestions.




The Complete List

RAW
- Ability to save a RAW file with less MP
- 12bit RAW setting (3x)
- true RAW histogram (4x)
- HDR images saved as RAW or TIFF (2x)

Movie Mode
- 1080p 24fps, 720p 24fps and 60fps (6x)
- AF during filming (5x)
- More manual control (8x)
- Allow the movie mode in the USER menu (2x)
- Allow movie recording in all modes (except X and B, of course), by a long press on LV. Controls could then be compliant with whatever mode you're in... (2x)
- In movie mode, memorize two (or more) focus distances and allow instant change by pushing the AF button. (3x)
- HDR Video Mode (2x)
- Improved sound quality. (3x)
- HDMI output to fill entire screen.
- Higher resolution HDMI output.

Flash
- HSS Flash ability (4x)
- Allow full P-TTL with manual lenses by firing the metering flash after the lens was stop-down (it works with m42s!). (2x)
- second curtain synch with manual lenses (2x)
- fine adjustment of synch time
- Ability to do trailing curtain sync with any flash / wireless trigger. (2x)
- Adapt the flash to the current ambient level in wireless controller mode.

Buttons
- Addition of SR on/off option to Fx button functionality. (6x)
- Addition of HDR Capture option to Fx button functionality. (4x)
- When viewing images, the RAW/Fx button or green button temporarily shows dark/bright areas or histogram. (4x)
- Two options for the Fx button for exposure bracketing. (2x)
- Addition of turn on/off catch in focus to Fx button functionality.
- Ability to swap RAW/Fx and AF button functionality. (2x)
- Ability to assign the green button/fx button/preview dial to instantly record a movie (3x)
- Top screen illumination activated by pressing the exposure compensation button (as on the K10D) (5x)
- In playback mode, holding the EC buttons shows detailed image information and a histogram. (2x)
- Custom button mappings should revert back to what it was prior to entering a user mode

Auto-Focus
- Allow Catch-In-Focus with all AF lenses when in MF mode by pressing the AF button (unused in MF!) (2x)
- Selectable af points with manual focus lenses
- in SEL AF mode, revert to focus point selection on half-press (3x)
- Do an automatic lens AF setting by comparing Contrast and Phase detect AF results. If the camera moved during the process, ditch the results... (2x)
- AF-SR priority. Just like AF-S with focus priority, but only shoot when the shaking has reached a level where the camera thinks it can handle it. (3x)
- Add a new option to C14 : Superimpose AF Area: 1. On; 2. Off; 3. On selection only. (2x)
- Wider range of AF adjustment. (2x)

Menu's and the like
- Ability to save an initial setting for User modes. Eg: If the mode is Tv, an initial shutter speed can be saved. (3x)
- USER menu where one can assign frequently used menu items. (4x)
- Option to enable autorotation during playback (that is seperated from the option to record rotation data) (4x)
- Ability for the camera to count past 9999. (2x)
- Addition of white balance to the control panel (2x)-
- An option to let the user pick 2 or 3 things that could be added to the Control panel. (2x)
- Improved file naming options.
- Info Screen color scheme saved with USER modes to aid recognition of which USER mode the camera is in.

Shooting options
- Option to set Continuous Shooting Lo speed (4x)
- Lower ISO (25, 50) (3x)
- Larger bracketing interval, ideally 9 shots instead of five (3x)
- Exposure bracketing with bigger EV steps (~4EV)
- Option to avoid the '0' shot during bracketing (Eg, ability to photograph -2 and +2 only)
- the possibility of bracketing only the shutter speed when in M mode, leaving the aperture untouched. This is only possible at the moment with non-DA lenses that have aperture rings. (2x)
- Mirror lock-up for bracketing shots. (2x)
- Provide metering-line options to control the behavior of multi-segment metering (average, preserve-highlights, maximize-shadow-details). (2x)
- When shooting long exposures in Bulb Mode display a timer (counter) on the LCD screen to let you know how many seconds have passed (5x)
- Remove 30s limit in modes other than Bulb. (4x)
- For manual lenses, use the focal length value for auto-iso handling. (3x)
- More then 999 interval shots. (2x)
- ISO 80 as part of default ISO range instead of extended (particularly because of the amazing DR at this setting!)

Other
- Tethering (7x)
- Allow reset values to be specified for parameters reset at power-off.
- Additional option to turn off the status screen automatically after 3 or 10 seconds.
- Eye-Fi SD card compatibility. (2x)
- Add an option to turn raw-level NR off or, make it kick in at a configurable ISO level. (3x)
- In liveview, stop the SR when reviewing the shot Currently, you can hear the SR still whirring while you review the shot just taken (auto-review, not Play). (2x)
- The option to develop the JPG to the right, whatever be the degree of underexposure, with highlight compression as applied in D-Range mode.
- low-battery freeze-up fixed
- ability to create and save a Dark Frame (shutter closed), which can then be used to do subtraction in PP.
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What about the possibility to choose only vertical Shake Reduction for horisontal panning situations?
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