Received my K-3 today

konraDarnok · 10-31-2013, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by Andi Lo

No one yet?

it must be such an amazing camera people can't be bothered with putting it down and posting images and impression on the internet.

**jpzk** · 10-31-2013, 07:49 AM

With this discussion about DNG files with the K3 ... I was wondering if I will be able to keep using CS5 as my main PP software or will I have to upgrade ??

On another note: I was told the OP is hiding with his K3 ... somewhere ... around the office ?

JP

Joojoo2010 · 10-31-2013, 07:52 AM

If shoot DNG raw files adobe programs should open those cos DNG is adobes own standard or at least developed by adobe

**jpzk** · 10-31-2013, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by Joojoo2010

If shoot DNG raw files adobe programs should open those cos DNG is adobes own standard or at least developed by adobe

I assume you replied to my previous post, right ?

I am just hoping that the files will be just as easy to handle compared to those with my K5 and CS5.

JP

Barry Pearson · 10-31-2013, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by Andi Lo

No one yet?

What is the full question?

(My K-3 arrived about 3 hours ago. I bought it from SRS, in the UK).

Andi Lo · 10-31-2013, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

What is the full question?

(My K-3 arrived about 3 hours ago. I bought it from SRS, in the UK).

Sample shots... AF performance, anything beside from "I got it!"

Congratulations though, must be great, that new camera smell...

normhead · 10-31-2013, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by Andi Lo

Sample shots... AF performance, anything beside from "I got it!"

Congratulations though, must be great, that new camera smell...

You're a bad man Andi,

. I'm actually wondering, since i use Aperture and Apple is always the last to update their profiles if I'll even be able to use it. In the past I've always made a point of waiting until the profile is out, which usually saves me a couple hundred dollars.

Last edited by normhead; 10-31-2013 at 09:44 AM.

repaap · 10-31-2013, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

What is the full question?

(My K-3 arrived about 3 hours ago. I bought it from SRS, in the UK).

I have another question, go you think that this K-3 of yours will be living up to it's hype. Or maybe even more?

I'd really wan't to have one of these in my hands.

Barry Pearson · 10-31-2013, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Andi Lo

Sample shots... AF performance, anything beside from "I got it!"

Congratulations though, must be great, that new camera smell...

I'm going to check AF accuracy and if necessary make Fine Adjustments before I test AF performance. This is my next task.

Originally posted by repaap

I have another question, go you think that this K-3 of yours will be living up to it's hype. Or maybe even more?

I'd really wan't to have one of these in my hands.

I'm pretty confident it will be a useful upgrade to my K-5IIs in nearly all respects; except for one thing:

Having compared high ISO DNGs for the K-3 and the K-5IIs at Imaging Resource, printing them at A3+, I strongly suspect that the K-3 will have worse noise than the K-5IIs above perhaps ISO 6400. Obviously I'll be testing that, and I will publish future observations. I hope I'm wrong, but I saw someone in the PentaxUser forums come to the same conclusion.

I'm sure plenty of people will be testing this over the next week or two.

memo90061 · 10-31-2013, 11:44 AM

I want to see a video coming from the K-3. The pentax seems like a good camera. I had the K-5 II for a while, and really loved the picture output most of the time. The only thing I wasn't happy with were with the night videos.

Reptilezz · 10-31-2013, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

I'm going to check AF accuracy and if necessary make Fine Adjustments before I test AF performance. This is my next task.

I'm pretty confident it will be a useful upgrade to my K-5IIs in nearly all respects; except for one thing:

Having compared high ISO DNGs for the K-3 and the K-5IIs at Imaging Resource, printing them at A3+, I strongly suspect that the K-3 will have worse noise than the K-5IIs above perhaps ISO 6400. Obviously I'll be testing that, and I will publish future observations. I hope I'm wrong, but I saw someone in the PentaxUser forums come to the same conclusion.

I'm sure plenty of people will be testing this over the next week or two.

Ive heard that if you put the K-3 on 16mp it has the same or a little bit better noise performance as the K-5IIs

repaap · 10-31-2013, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

I'm going to check AF accuracy and if necessary make Fine Adjustments before I test AF performance. This is my next task.

I'm pretty confident it will be a useful upgrade to my K-5IIs in nearly all respects; except for one thing:

Having compared high ISO DNGs for the K-3 and the K-5IIs at Imaging Resource, printing them at A3+, I strongly suspect that the K-3 will have worse noise than the K-5IIs above perhaps ISO 6400. Obviously I'll be testing that, and I will publish future observations. I hope I'm wrong, but I saw someone in the PentaxUser forums come to the same conclusion.

I'm sure plenty of people will be testing this over the next week or two.

I'm sure also that it will be allover in few days even...but that is good thing.

About your upgrade from K-5IIs, It is great to hear, I'm coming from K-7. So it will be better. Let's see about that ISO thing next, real life examples.

Barry Pearson · 10-31-2013, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Reptilezz

Ive heard that if you put the K-3 on 16mp it has the same or a little bit better noise performance as the K-5IIs

I only shoot DNG. I never shoot JPEG.

JinDesu · 10-31-2013, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

I only shoot DNG. I never shoot JPEG.

Lightroom/PS output - Resize to 16MP
That will make the noise equivalent.

Alternatively, printing at any equal size will show equal or better noise for the k-3.

Barry Pearson · 10-31-2013, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

Lightroom/PS output - Resize to 16MP
That will make the noise equivalent.

Alternatively, printing at any equal size will show equal or better noise for the k-3.

I tried resizing (to 16 MP) a DNG from the IR site for the K-3 at ISO 51200, and compared the result to a DNG for the K-5IIs at ISO 51200, after first using the same noise reduction parameters in Lightroom. The colour noise from the K-3 is much worse even after resizing.

I printed DNGs from the IR site for the K-3 and K-5IIs at ISO 51200, at A3+. (Without resizing). The noise from the K-3 was much worse at plausible Lightroom parameters. I had to raise the noise reduction for the K-3 to amounts that I consider unreasonable to get a match.

(I don't know if I can recover the degradation caused by the excessive noise reduction for the K-3. Perhaps with practice I can get back to the level of the K-5IIs).

Can you provide evidence that what you say works in practice with these two cameras? Not just in theory?

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10-31-2013, 07:38 AM	#46
konraDarnok Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Photos: Albums Posts: 969	Originally posted by Andi Lo No one yet? it must be such an amazing camera people can't be bothered with putting it down and posting images and impression on the internet.

10-31-2013, 07:49 AM	#47
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	With this discussion about DNG files with the K3 ... I was wondering if I will be able to keep using CS5 as my main PP software or will I have to upgrade ?? On another note: I was told the OP is hiding with his K3 ... somewhere ... around the office ? JP

10-31-2013, 07:52 AM	#48
Joojoo2010 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 306	If shoot DNG raw files adobe programs should open those cos DNG is adobes own standard or at least developed by adobe

10-31-2013, 07:56 AM	#49
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by Joojoo2010 If shoot DNG raw files adobe programs should open those cos DNG is adobes own standard or at least developed by adobe I assume you replied to my previous post, right ? I am just hoping that the files will be just as easy to handle compared to those with my K5 and CS5. JP

10-31-2013, 09:10 AM	#50
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by Andi Lo No one yet? What is the full question? (My K-3 arrived about 3 hours ago. I bought it from SRS, in the UK).

10-31-2013, 09:30 AM	#51
Andi Lo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 2,924	Originally posted by Barry Pearson What is the full question? (My K-3 arrived about 3 hours ago. I bought it from SRS, in the UK). Sample shots... AF performance, anything beside from "I got it!" Congratulations though, must be great, that new camera smell...

10-31-2013, 09:39 AM	#52
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Andi Lo Sample shots... AF performance, anything beside from "I got it!" Congratulations though, must be great, that new camera smell... You're a bad man Andi, . I'm actually wondering, since i use Aperture and Apple is always the last to update their profiles if I'll even be able to use it. In the past I've always made a point of waiting until the profile is out, which usually saves me a couple hundred dollars. Last edited by normhead; 10-31-2013 at 09:44 AM.

10-31-2013, 09:42 AM	#53
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by Barry Pearson What is the full question? (My K-3 arrived about 3 hours ago. I bought it from SRS, in the UK). I have another question, go you think that this K-3 of yours will be living up to it's hype. Or maybe even more? I'd really wan't to have one of these in my hands.

10-31-2013, 09:57 AM	#54
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by Andi Lo Sample shots... AF performance, anything beside from "I got it!" Congratulations though, must be great, that new camera smell... I'm going to check AF accuracy and if necessary make Fine Adjustments before I test AF performance. This is my next task. Originally posted by repaap I have another question, go you think that this K-3 of yours will be living up to it's hype. Or maybe even more? I'd really wan't to have one of these in my hands. I'm pretty confident it will be a useful upgrade to my K-5IIs in nearly all respects; except for one thing: Having compared high ISO DNGs for the K-3 and the K-5IIs at Imaging Resource, printing them at A3+, I strongly suspect that the K-3 will have worse noise than the K-5IIs above perhaps ISO 6400. Obviously I'll be testing that, and I will publish future observations. I hope I'm wrong, but I saw someone in the PentaxUser forums come to the same conclusion. I'm sure plenty of people will be testing this over the next week or two.

10-31-2013, 11:44 AM	#55
memo90061 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 218	I want to see a video coming from the K-3. The pentax seems like a good camera. I had the K-5 II for a while, and really loved the picture output most of the time. The only thing I wasn't happy with were with the night videos.

10-31-2013, 12:09 PM	#56
Reptilezz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 206	Originally posted by Barry Pearson I'm going to check AF accuracy and if necessary make Fine Adjustments before I test AF performance. This is my next task. I'm pretty confident it will be a useful upgrade to my K-5IIs in nearly all respects; except for one thing: Having compared high ISO DNGs for the K-3 and the K-5IIs at Imaging Resource, printing them at A3+, I strongly suspect that the K-3 will have worse noise than the K-5IIs above perhaps ISO 6400. Obviously I'll be testing that, and I will publish future observations. I hope I'm wrong, but I saw someone in the PentaxUser forums come to the same conclusion. I'm sure plenty of people will be testing this over the next week or two. Ive heard that if you put the K-3 on 16mp it has the same or a little bit better noise performance as the K-5IIs

10-31-2013, 12:40 PM	#57
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by Barry Pearson I'm going to check AF accuracy and if necessary make Fine Adjustments before I test AF performance. This is my next task. I'm pretty confident it will be a useful upgrade to my K-5IIs in nearly all respects; except for one thing: Having compared high ISO DNGs for the K-3 and the K-5IIs at Imaging Resource, printing them at A3+, I strongly suspect that the K-3 will have worse noise than the K-5IIs above perhaps ISO 6400. Obviously I'll be testing that, and I will publish future observations. I hope I'm wrong, but I saw someone in the PentaxUser forums come to the same conclusion. I'm sure plenty of people will be testing this over the next week or two. I'm sure also that it will be allover in few days even...but that is good thing. About your upgrade from K-5IIs, It is great to hear, I'm coming from K-7. So it will be better. Let's see about that ISO thing next, real life examples.

10-31-2013, 01:12 PM	#58
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by Reptilezz Ive heard that if you put the K-3 on 16mp it has the same or a little bit better noise performance as the K-5IIs I only shoot DNG. I never shoot JPEG.

10-31-2013, 01:14 PM	#59
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by Barry Pearson I only shoot DNG. I never shoot JPEG. Lightroom/PS output - Resize to 16MP That will make the noise equivalent. Alternatively, printing at any equal size will show equal or better noise for the k-3.

10-31-2013, 01:54 PM	#60
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by JinDesu Lightroom/PS output - Resize to 16MP That will make the noise equivalent. Alternatively, printing at any equal size will show equal or better noise for the k-3. I tried resizing (to 16 MP) a DNG from the IR site for the K-3 at ISO 51200, and compared the result to a DNG for the K-5IIs at ISO 51200, after first using the same noise reduction parameters in Lightroom. The colour noise from the K-3 is much worse even after resizing. I printed DNGs from the IR site for the K-3 and K-5IIs at ISO 51200, at A3+. (Without resizing). The noise from the K-3 was much worse at plausible Lightroom parameters. I had to raise the noise reduction for the K-3 to amounts that I consider unreasonable to get a match. (I don't know if I can recover the degradation caused by the excessive noise reduction for the K-3. Perhaps with practice I can get back to the level of the K-5IIs). Can you provide evidence that what you say works in practice with these two cameras? Not just in theory?