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Azzy · 11-03-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by wuzet

K-3, DA*300/4, ISO 400, AF-C

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Quick PP, I found some quirks while working with the RAW file with LR 5.2, perhaps a DNG profile is needed afterall

IchabodCrane · 11-03-2013, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Azzy

Quick PP, I found some quirks while working with the RAW file with LR 5.2, perhaps a DNG profile is needed afterall

If Highlight Correction was turned on, maybe LR doesn't recognize the HC tag on a K-3 yet. This would result in a 1 stop underexposed RAW image.

Azzy · 11-03-2013, 07:18 PM

IDK what was used, I didn't shoot that, see quoted post for the excellent shots by wuzet.

What I mean by quirks is when I was trying to recover the highlights it recover it on some area but burn it on other more. Download the DNG yourself and see if you encounter same behaviour, maybe it's just my LR

jaad75 · 11-03-2013, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by normhead

SOme 21 ltd and K-3 images…

Man, you just destroyed those pictures in PP. What for?

rawr · 11-03-2013, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Azzy

Quick PP, I found some quirks while working with the RAW file

Hmmm. Your PP is a bit too brutal. You should have included your LR settings in your screen shot. Also in LR 4.4 I don't see the behaviour you talk about.

Plus I'm not sure of the etiquette of tearing up other people's images in this thread.

Azzy · 11-03-2013, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by rawr

Hmmm. Your PP is a bit too brutal. You should have included your LR settings in your screen shot. Also in LR 4.4 I don't see the behaviour you talk about.

Plus I'm not sure of the etiquette of tearing up other people's images in this thread.

I'll apologize and delete the post if he doesn't want me to do that but he did post the DNG file on his post...
It was 2 min work, I wanted to see how much shadow can really be pushed and black skin + underexposed image was the perfect test subject. Setting was +100 shadow, whites and black. +0.5 exposure, and a very little tweaking on the tone curve.

rawr · 11-03-2013, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Azzy

He posted the DNG file on his post...

Yeah, I suppose that could be considered an invitation to play with them. Although all usage rights would still remain with the photog, I think, unless they were disclaimed.

Just be gentle, I guess. If I had a K-3, I'd be a bit scared of posting sample pix if I knew someone might be putting them through the grinder here

Last edited by rawr; 11-03-2013 at 09:04 PM.

jaad75 · 11-03-2013, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by rawr

Also in LR 4.4 I don't see the behaviour you talk about.

Me too.

Azzy · 11-03-2013, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by jaad75

Me too.

strange...anyone with LR 5.2 can chime in ?

bigrex · 11-03-2013, 11:22 PM

Um. Can someone post a rural landscape, mountainscape, etc.? All I am seeing are close-ups and an occasional cityscape.

ArneTorp · 11-04-2013, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Azzy

strange...anyone with LR 5.2 can chime in ?

I have 5.2 and I don't see the problem you have posted here at all. I did lift shadows 100%, Blacks +4, Exposure +0,28 and nothing burned out. Then I could easily come back on the whites and highlights without seeing anything like you posted here.

ENicolas · 11-04-2013, 02:18 AM

I just worked this up in Lightroom 5.2 and the results are stunning! I won't step on the original poster's toes by posting it - but I am seeing no problems with exposure or white/black levels.

The amount of detail is really fine! And the noise at ISO 400 is easily tamed: very fine and consistent, not chunky or blocky and mainly luminance, not much chrominance noise.

My HP laptop is chugging to deal with the file size, though. Definitely the quad core desktop will be used to process these things.

I'm sporting a K-3 owner badge but damned Amazon won't deliver until the 19th - the slowest kind of time is time spent waiting for a new camera to be delivered.

Col · 11-04-2013, 03:24 AM - **1 Like**

I'm using LR5.2 and I've not got the workflow correct yet. Tried a couple of HDR which are saved to DNG 93MB? And LR kinda stripped the file of any HDR nature (on the principles of "you're not allowed to do that with a DNG"?)
How the HDR DNG appeared in LR5:

Saved to Tiff in camera:

**Michaelina2** · 11-04-2013, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by ENicolas

I just worked this up in Lightroom 5.2 and the results are stunning!... I am seeing no problems with exposure or white/black levels.

The amount of detail is really fine! And the noise at ISO 400 is easily tamed: very fine and consistent, not chunky or blocky...

+1 (same file) with LR5.2/NIK on my 4yo custom-built desktop (Win7p, Intel Core i7-920 2.66Ghz 8M LGA1366 CPU, HIS Radeon HD 5450). Like my K5IIs, easy to finish with tons of detail... no problems.

This K3's DNG image files are huge

... M

gazonk · 11-04-2013, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by rawr

Nice shots, especially the baldie. Some grain at 100% and ISO 1600, to be expected, but very fine and not offensive. Easy to work with.

+1! That ISO 1600 shots looks so much better than the ISO 1600 JPEGs on the front page, where both the blue skies and the shadows look very gritty to me.

11-03-2013, 08:31 PM	#111
Azzy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 201	Originally posted by rawr Hmmm. Your PP is a bit too brutal. You should have included your LR settings in your screen shot. Also in LR 4.4 I don't see the behaviour you talk about. Plus I'm not sure of the etiquette of tearing up other people's images in this thread. I'll apologize and delete the post if he doesn't want me to do that but he did post the DNG file on his post... It was 2 min work, I wanted to see how much shadow can really be pushed and black skin + underexposed image was the perfect test subject. Setting was +100 shadow, whites and black. +0.5 exposure, and a very little tweaking on the tone curve. Last edited by Azzy; 11-03-2013 at 08:58 PM.

11-04-2013, 02:18 AM	#117
ENicolas Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 137	Imgp0437.dng I just worked this up in Lightroom 5.2 and the results are stunning! I won't step on the original poster's toes by posting it - but I am seeing no problems with exposure or white/black levels. The amount of detail is really fine! And the noise at ISO 400 is easily tamed: very fine and consistent, not chunky or blocky and mainly luminance, not much chrominance noise. My HP laptop is chugging to deal with the file size, though. Definitely the quad core desktop will be used to process these things. I'm sporting a K-3 owner badge but damned Amazon won't deliver until the 19th - the slowest kind of time is time spent waiting for a new camera to be delivered.

11-04-2013, 03:24 AM - 1 Like	#118
Col Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stansted Essex Photos: Gallery Posts: 614	I'm using LR5.2 and I've not got the workflow correct yet. Tried a couple of HDR which are saved to DNG 93MB? And LR kinda stripped the file of any HDR nature (on the principles of "you're not allowed to do that with a DNG"?) How the HDR DNG appeared in LR5: Saved to Tiff in camera: Last edited by Col; 11-04-2013 at 05:28 AM.

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11-03-2013, 07:00 PM	#106
Azzy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 201	Originally posted by wuzet K-3, DA*300/4, ISO 400, AF-C Zippyshare.com - IMGP0437.JPG Zippyshare.com - IMGP0437.DNG Quick PP, I found some quirks while working with the RAW file with LR 5.2, perhaps a DNG profile is needed afterall

11-03-2013, 07:09 PM	#107
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by Azzy Quick PP, I found some quirks while working with the RAW file with LR 5.2, perhaps a DNG profile is needed afterall If Highlight Correction was turned on, maybe LR doesn't recognize the HC tag on a K-3 yet. This would result in a 1 stop underexposed RAW image.

11-03-2013, 07:18 PM	#108
Azzy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 201	IDK what was used, I didn't shoot that, see quoted post for the excellent shots by wuzet. What I mean by quirks is when I was trying to recover the highlights it recover it on some area but burn it on other more. Download the DNG yourself and see if you encounter same behaviour, maybe it's just my LR

11-03-2013, 07:53 PM	#109
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	Originally posted by normhead SOme 21 ltd and K-3 images… Man, you just destroyed those pictures in PP. What for?

11-03-2013, 08:09 PM	#110
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Azzy Quick PP, I found some quirks while working with the RAW file Hmmm. Your PP is a bit too brutal. You should have included your LR settings in your screen shot. Also in LR 4.4 I don't see the behaviour you talk about. Plus I'm not sure of the etiquette of tearing up other people's images in this thread.

11-03-2013, 08:59 PM	#112
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Azzy He posted the DNG file on his post... Yeah, I suppose that could be considered an invitation to play with them. Although all usage rights would still remain with the photog, I think, unless they were disclaimed. Just be gentle, I guess. If I had a K-3, I'd be a bit scared of posting sample pix if I knew someone might be putting them through the grinder here Last edited by rawr; 11-03-2013 at 09:04 PM.

11-03-2013, 09:23 PM	#113
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	Originally posted by rawr Also in LR 4.4 I don't see the behaviour you talk about. Me too.

11-03-2013, 09:33 PM	#114
Azzy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 201	Originally posted by jaad75 Me too. strange...anyone with LR 5.2 can chime in ?

11-03-2013, 11:22 PM	#115
bigrex Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 69	Um. Can someone post a rural landscape, mountainscape, etc.? All I am seeing are close-ups and an occasional cityscape.

11-04-2013, 01:46 AM	#116
ArneTorp Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oslo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 66	Originally posted by Azzy strange...anyone with LR 5.2 can chime in ? I have 5.2 and I don't see the problem you have posted here at all. I did lift shadows 100%, Blacks +4, Exposure +0,28 and nothing burned out. Then I could easily come back on the whites and highlights without seeing anything like you posted here.

11-04-2013, 03:47 AM	#119
Michaelina2 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SE Michigan USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,302	Originally posted by ENicolas I just worked this up in Lightroom 5.2 and the results are stunning!... I am seeing no problems with exposure or white/black levels. The amount of detail is really fine! And the noise at ISO 400 is easily tamed: very fine and consistent, not chunky or blocky... +1 (same file) with LR5.2/NIK on my 4yo custom-built desktop (Win7p, Intel Core i7-920 2.66Ghz 8M LGA1366 CPU, HIS Radeon HD 5450). Like my K5IIs, easy to finish with tons of detail... no problems. This K3's DNG image files are huge ... M

11-04-2013, 04:02 AM	#120
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by rawr Nice shots, especially the baldie. Some grain at 100% and ISO 1600, to be expected, but very fine and not offensive. Easy to work with. +1! That ISO 1600 shots looks so much better than the ISO 1600 JPEGs on the front page, where both the blue skies and the shadows look very gritty to me.

K3 sample shots ... post here !

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