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File one = K-3, File two = K-5 IIs 27264.00%
File one = K-5 IIs, File two = K-3 15336.00%
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11-05-2013, 08:47 AM   #181
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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
In retrospect it would probably be better to stick to in-camera JPEGs for a comparison like this (as long as all settings are the same), as there are so many variables in RAW files these days that you can goof even if you go way out of your way to try to get two files to look the same. And yes, I agree that ACR should be avoided.

The reason these two photos look different is that the tripod plate on the K-5 IIs was misaligned. Aw well- I can take it out again tomorrow! Test charts would also work, of course, but that's not what it's about IMO. Been trying to avoid those as much as possible!
Adam, I would suggest using the Silkypix based camera utility that came with the K3, SilkyPix should handle both photos equally.

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Brew1brew I agree with you, Silkypix should be the best RAW processor for image comparisons, and I'd rather see the images in their native format as well as scaled to a common resolution that isn't either of the images size so both images would be re-sampled.
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The first thing I would try in this instance is to upsample both, using the same algorithm... to, say, 48 MP.

Then do a comparison.
11-05-2013, 06:06 PM   #184
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QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
Maybe yours. My screens have typically much higher res.
It seems you're correct. I decided to test my screen and mine is running at 109dpi.

11-05-2013, 06:40 PM   #185
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File 1 is from K-3; resolution looks sharper.
11-05-2013, 11:18 PM   #186
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Okay already
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QuoteOriginally posted by Brew1brew Quote
Adam, I would suggest using the Silkypix based camera utility that came with the K3, SilkyPix should handle both photos equally.
Or the real thing - Silkypix Pro 5 :

[Release history]

[NOV/05/2013 Ver.5.0.49.0]
- New support: Pentax K-3

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QuoteOriginally posted by kh1234567890 Quote
Or the real thing - Silkypix Pro 5 :

[Release history]

[NOV/05/2013 Ver.5.0.49.0]
- New support: Pentax K-3

I've already upgraded

Now all I need is to place my K3 order

11-07-2013, 09:59 AM   #189
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K-3 is pic #2


50% chance of looking like I actually know.
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QuoteOriginally posted by imtheguy Quote
K-3 is pic #2


50% chance of looking like I actually know.

I would have gone with the majority ↑
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When you remember that the screen res' is 72dpi
Sorry about your ancient monitor. We could take up a collection, I suppose.


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Tilt!

It doesn't make sense to me to compare a down-sampled image with one that isn't. In my experience (admittedly only with PS Elements 10), downsampling noticeably softens the image; I invariably have to sharpen a downsampled image somewhat to approximate the apparent resolution of the original picture. Adam, I think you were comparing apples and oranges, and trying to make the apple equivalent to an orange. In my mind, that just isn't possible.

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There is 1 duck missing from the second pic. (next to a fence so to me is obvious that the second pic. was taken with a K3
Also the second pic. is not as sharp as the first one, on top of that there is moire on the fence in the first one so to me is obvious that the second pic was taken with a K3 (filter on) and the first one either with K5IIs or K3 (with filter off)
PS: the DUCK !!! near the FENCE is the clue...... obviously

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If people have that much trouble choosing between the two, then that tells me that the k3 isn't worth an upgrade from the k5iis

maybe next generation.....

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If people have that much trouble choosing between the two, then that tells me that the k3 isn't worth an upgrade from the k5iis

maybe next generation.....

thanks

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I'll probably never know... but all reports say AF has been improved.

I don't think the sensor is all that much better but it's definitely an improvement.
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