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File one = K-3, File two = K-5 IIs 27264.00%
File one = K-5 IIs, File two = K-3 15336.00%
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11-03-2013, 07:58 PM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bogartist Quote
Am I crazy, or does File One looks significantly sharper in the centre, where File Two looks sharper at the left and right edges - particularly the right?

Which makes no sense (assuming they were using the same lens, and not two different copies of the same make of lens). I'm probably crazy. Gah, pixel-peeping is what's crazy.
Its wind moving the branch/leaves

11-03-2013, 08:02 PM   #32
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QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
Adobe RGB
Yes, Adobe RGB colour profile in web JPEGs means unreliable colour rendition. sRGB in JPEGs pls! Histogram is also different between the two.

K-3 is file one.

These tests though are always hard to do. A K-x and RX100 pic alongside the K-3 and K-5 IIs pix would be just as hard to identify.
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I seem to see aliasing in the water in the ripples. I think that one is the k3. #2=k3!
11-03-2013, 08:07 PM   #34
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1 has more details

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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
Yes, Adobe RGB colour profile in web JPEGs means unreliable colour rendition. sRGB in JPEGs pls
Not if you use a proper web browser (like Firefox) and calibrated Adobe RGB monitor. But most of people don't even know what they use.
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Histogram is also different between the two.
There is a different WB (6400/-5 vs 5000/+14) and different camera profile (Embedded vs. Adobe Standard) so it's obvious that histograms will be different.
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File 1 ('E') with better resolution, and slightly less exposed, and better white balance = k3
File 2 ('B') slightly overexposed = K5
11-03-2013, 08:12 PM   #37
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1 (or E) is more detailed and has more colour moire in the balcony railing of the house on the right. I would assume that to be the K-3 with the AA filter deactivated.
If the K-3 has the AA filter on, it could be the other way around though....
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Very interesting, file 1 has the green cast of the K-5 sensor and file 2 has the blue cast of the K-3 sensor. But judging by the fence detail in the buildings in the distance, file 1 has the higher detail??

Disregarding detail I'm guessing file 2 is the K-3.

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QuoteOriginally posted by vangaans Quote
Very interesting, file 1 has the green cast of the K-5 sensor and file 2 has the blue cast of the K-3 sensor.
The K-5IIs nor the original K-5 have never had "green cast". The both go towards magenta but the IIs less than the older one.
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But judging by the fence detail in the buildings in the distance, file 1 has the higher detail??
Detail and maze artifacts. It's so obvious...
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The e-jpg is sharper and, to my eyes a better photo.Not sure which camera it's from.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
Not if you use a proper web browser (like Firefox) and calibrated Adobe RGB monitor.
I use several colour-aware browsers and have several calibrated monitors.
So pls don't presume anything about my setup.

sRGB is the default for just about everything so it's just sensible to advocate it's use for online JPEGs, IMHO.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
So pls don't presume anything about my setup.
I do not. I was not talking about you personally.
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sRGB is the default for just about everything so it's just sensible to advocate it's use for online JPEGs, IMHO.
Of course. That's why I wrote about it before.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
The K-5IIs nor the original K-5 have never had "green cast". The both go towards magenta but the IIs less than the older one.
Detail and maze artifacts. It's so obvious...
Must be just my K-5 then. I always need to push my files back towards magenta from green in Lightroom.
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First is K3. Although the second handles the moire on the fence a little better. I judged by looking at the letters on the buoy - t hey appeared a little cleaner on the first.
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By the way - how long did it take to download the photos? On my old pc, it was about 10 minutes per photo.
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