K-3: Anyone solved the RAW PEF or DNG on Mac?

Tricktech · 11-08-2013, 11:20 PM

Maybe I'm missing something... but I have years worth of photos shot in raw (most recently with my K-5 IIs) that are stored and maintained using Lightroom for Mac - much to my surprise, and disappointment, the first images I shot with my new K-3 don't open properly. Aside from working in JPEG, I need a solution that doesn't include running everything through a conversion in another application.

Are we really stuck waiting for Apple? Has anyone found a workaround that allows opening dng or pef directly in Lightroom?

Yes, I am able to open the images with the Pentax Digital Camera Utility 5, yes, The latest updates to Camera raw/bridge seems to work... so why not Lightroom.

As I said, maybe I missed something, but I can't believe I'm the only one that needs this, and also having a tough time believing that there is only this single 2 page thread about this issue...

Any Ideas?

**Miguel** · 11-08-2013, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Tricktech

Maybe I'm missing something... but I have years worth of photos shot in raw (most recently with my K-5 IIs) that are stored and maintained using Lightroom for Mac - much to my surprise, and disappointment, the first images I shot with my new K-3 don't open properly. Aside from working in JPEG, I need a solution that doesn't include running everything through a conversion in another application.

Are we really stuck waiting for Apple? Has anyone found a workaround that allows opening dng or pef directly in Lightroom?

Yes, I am able to open the images with the Pentax Digital Camera Utility 5, yes, The latest updates to Camera raw/bridge seems to work... so why not Lightroom.

As I said, maybe I missed something, but I can't believe I'm the only one that needs this, and also having a tough time believing that there is only this single 2 page thread about this issue...

Any Ideas?

Maybe more facts about your situation will help. What version of LR are you using? What type of raw file are you attempting to open? K-3 DNG files open fine in V 4.4 of LR. On several relevant prior threads, maybe this one even, the suggestion was given to reconvert the DNGs to DNGs using Adobe's tool. This is an interim solution. Have you tried this?

If you are trying to open PEFs, surely as a non-newbie LR user you are aware that it is standard practice for Adobe to issue dot releases that provide LR functionality to brand new camera models. The lag time is commonly a few weeks at most, depending on how active the backlog of new bodies is to integrate. To me it is unreasonable to expect LR to open PEF files produced by a camera that has been out for eight days. That is what DNG for and it is smart of Pentax to offer this alternative.

M

Tricktech · 11-08-2013, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by Miguel

Maybe more facts about your situation will help. What version of LR are you using? What type of raw file are you attempting to open? K-3 DNG files open fine in V 4.4 of LR. On several relevant prior threads, maybe this one even, the suggestion was given to reconvert the DNGs to DNGs using Adobe's tool. This is an interim solution. Have you tried this?

If you are trying to open PEFs, surely as a non-newbie LR user you are aware that it is standard practice for Adobe to issue dot releases that provide LR functionality to brand new camera models. The lag time is commonly a few weeks at most, depending on how active the backlog of new bodies is to integrate. To me it is unreasonable to expect LR to open PEF files produced by a camera that has been out for eight days. That is what DNG for and it is smart of Pentax to offer this alternative.

M

5.3RC
K-3 DNG

Not sure what conversion tool you are referring to? Where to find it?

Kameraten · 11-09-2013, 12:04 AM

Does Lightroom have support for using the full-size previews embedded in DNG? Those are what you see in Expression Media, not a freshly rendered DNG. For my own part, I'm fine with this because it's much faster than rendering every picture again.
But the Mac Preview.app doesn't open K-3 DNG:s, which suggests Apple doesn't support them yet. In ACR they open fine, though.
Upgrades for new cameras usually arrives in bunches when the supplier thinks there's enough of them to justify the effort.

**Miguel** · 11-09-2013, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by Tricktech

5.3RC
K-3 DNG

Not sure what conversion tool you are referring to? Where to find it?

Adobe DNG converter for Mac.

M

Tricktech · 11-09-2013, 01:20 AM

Well, part of the mystery solved...

It appears that it's the embedded preview that Lightroom is having the issue with. Although blind, if you proceed with the import, everything works from that point forward.

Sandy Hancock · 11-09-2013, 02:30 AM

Lightroom handles my K-3 DNG's beautifully. Why the religious objection to Adobe products?

normhead · 11-09-2013, 06:16 AM

One more time… Adobe Raw Converter….

Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh

Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh

Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh

Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh

It converts the K-3 DNG file to a DNG file Aperture can read. NO need for TIFFs, no need for PSDs or any other large file format. It creates a nice DNG size file that your Aperture can read.

End of problem.

normhead · 11-09-2013, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Lightroom handles my K-3 DNG's beautifully. Why the religious objection to Adobe products?

They ripped me off for $500 once, then they ripped me off for $200. It takes me a while, but i do learn eventually.

mactrash · 11-12-2013, 04:50 AM

RPP have beta version that support K-3 DNG, and pay version got lightroom plug-in for easier workflow.

alwaysmichellerene · 12-03-2013, 04:55 PM

Tested out the k-3 at the local shop-- it was set to pefs… now I want to look at the photos here at home & I can't get them converted to dngs… tried Adobe dng converter. Did not recognize the files. Now what???

ArneTorp · 12-03-2013, 04:58 PM

Download a demo version of SilkyPix and see the files there and convert to dng.

rawr · 12-03-2013, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by alwaysmichellerene

Now what???

What about the software (Pentax Digital Camera Utility 5) that came on a CD with the camera? It will read K-3 PEFs and DNGs perfectly.

ArneTorp · 12-03-2013, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by rawr

What about the software (Pentax Digital Camera Utility 5) that came on a CD with the camera? It will read K-3 PEFs and DNGs perfectly.

I believe he stated that he tested the camera in the shop - And therefor he does not have the CD to install that software?

**Sailor** · 12-03-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by normhead

One more time… Adobe Raw Converter….

It converts the K-3 DNG file to a DNG file Aperture can read. NO need for TIFFs, no need for PSDs or any other large file format. It creates a nice DNG size file that your Aperture can read.

End of problem.

Norm, have patience with an old man (me) and make sure I'm clear. I've always shot RAW but never in the DNG format, so - were I to buy a K-3 before Apple updates Aperture (which I love) - I could simply: 1) download Adobe RAW converter; 2) set the camera to DNG format; 3) make the conversion to an Aperture-readible DNG file with the Adobe download; and 4) blissfully move that file forward through Aperture with the procedure I currently use with my K-5 and PEF files.

I am planning to hold off buying a K-3 until Apple updates Aperture, but in case I cannot resist temptation this seems to be a fairly straight-forward approach until Apple does its thing and I can do the whole process in Aperture.

Were I to say something incendiary, I'd mention that I'd give up photography before going back to a PC, so I won't say that.

Jer

11-09-2013, 06:16 AM	#38
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	One more time… Adobe Raw Converter…. Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh It converts the K-3 DNG file to a DNG file Aperture can read. NO need for TIFFs, no need for PSDs or any other large file format. It creates a nice DNG size file that your Aperture can read. End of problem. Last edited by normhead; 11-09-2013 at 07:26 AM.

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11-08-2013, 11:20 PM	#31
Tricktech Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Appleton, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 121	Maybe I'm missing something... but I have years worth of photos shot in raw (most recently with my K-5 IIs) that are stored and maintained using Lightroom for Mac - much to my surprise, and disappointment, the first images I shot with my new K-3 don't open properly. Aside from working in JPEG, I need a solution that doesn't include running everything through a conversion in another application. Are we really stuck waiting for Apple? Has anyone found a workaround that allows opening dng or pef directly in Lightroom? Yes, I am able to open the images with the Pentax Digital Camera Utility 5, yes, The latest updates to Camera raw/bridge seems to work... so why not Lightroom. As I said, maybe I missed something, but I can't believe I'm the only one that needs this, and also having a tough time believing that there is only this single 2 page thread about this issue... Any Ideas?

11-08-2013, 11:33 PM	#32
Miguel Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Seattle Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,743	Originally posted by Tricktech Maybe I'm missing something... but I have years worth of photos shot in raw (most recently with my K-5 IIs) that are stored and maintained using Lightroom for Mac - much to my surprise, and disappointment, the first images I shot with my new K-3 don't open properly. Aside from working in JPEG, I need a solution that doesn't include running everything through a conversion in another application. Are we really stuck waiting for Apple? Has anyone found a workaround that allows opening dng or pef directly in Lightroom? Yes, I am able to open the images with the Pentax Digital Camera Utility 5, yes, The latest updates to Camera raw/bridge seems to work... so why not Lightroom. As I said, maybe I missed something, but I can't believe I'm the only one that needs this, and also having a tough time believing that there is only this single 2 page thread about this issue... Any Ideas? Maybe more facts about your situation will help. What version of LR are you using? What type of raw file are you attempting to open? K-3 DNG files open fine in V 4.4 of LR. On several relevant prior threads, maybe this one even, the suggestion was given to reconvert the DNGs to DNGs using Adobe's tool. This is an interim solution. Have you tried this? If you are trying to open PEFs, surely as a non-newbie LR user you are aware that it is standard practice for Adobe to issue dot releases that provide LR functionality to brand new camera models. The lag time is commonly a few weeks at most, depending on how active the backlog of new bodies is to integrate. To me it is unreasonable to expect LR to open PEF files produced by a camera that has been out for eight days. That is what DNG for and it is smart of Pentax to offer this alternative. M

11-08-2013, 11:59 PM	#33
Tricktech Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Appleton, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 121	Originally posted by Miguel Maybe more facts about your situation will help. What version of LR are you using? What type of raw file are you attempting to open? K-3 DNG files open fine in V 4.4 of LR. On several relevant prior threads, maybe this one even, the suggestion was given to reconvert the DNGs to DNGs using Adobe's tool. This is an interim solution. Have you tried this? If you are trying to open PEFs, surely as a non-newbie LR user you are aware that it is standard practice for Adobe to issue dot releases that provide LR functionality to brand new camera models. The lag time is commonly a few weeks at most, depending on how active the backlog of new bodies is to integrate. To me it is unreasonable to expect LR to open PEF files produced by a camera that has been out for eight days. That is what DNG for and it is smart of Pentax to offer this alternative. M 5.3RC K-3 DNG Not sure what conversion tool you are referring to? Where to find it?

11-09-2013, 12:04 AM	#34
Kameraten Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 214	Does Lightroom have support for using the full-size previews embedded in DNG? Those are what you see in Expression Media, not a freshly rendered DNG. For my own part, I'm fine with this because it's much faster than rendering every picture again. But the Mac Preview.app doesn't open K-3 DNG:s, which suggests Apple doesn't support them yet. In ACR they open fine, though. Upgrades for new cameras usually arrives in bunches when the supplier thinks there's enough of them to justify the effort.

11-09-2013, 12:15 AM	#35
Miguel Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Seattle Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,743	Originally posted by Tricktech 5.3RC K-3 DNG Not sure what conversion tool you are referring to? Where to find it? Adobe DNG converter for Mac. M

11-09-2013, 01:20 AM	#36
Tricktech Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Appleton, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 121	Well, part of the mystery solved... It appears that it's the embedded preview that Lightroom is having the issue with. Although blind, if you proceed with the import, everything works from that point forward.

11-09-2013, 02:30 AM	#37
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Lightroom handles my K-3 DNG's beautifully. Why the religious objection to Adobe products?

11-09-2013, 07:27 AM	#39
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Lightroom handles my K-3 DNG's beautifully. Why the religious objection to Adobe products? They ripped me off for $500 once, then they ripped me off for $200. It takes me a while, but i do learn eventually.

11-12-2013, 04:50 AM	#40
mactrash Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: China Posts: 117	RPP have beta version that support K-3 DNG, and pay version got lightroom plug-in for easier workflow.

12-03-2013, 04:55 PM	#41
alwaysmichellerene Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Western Washington Photos: Albums Posts: 135	Tested out the k-3 at the local shop-- it was set to pefs… now I want to look at the photos here at home & I can't get them converted to dngs… tried Adobe dng converter. Did not recognize the files. Now what???

12-03-2013, 04:58 PM	#42
ArneTorp Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oslo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 66	Download a demo version of SilkyPix and see the files there and convert to dng.

12-03-2013, 05:12 PM	#43
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by alwaysmichellerene Now what??? What about the software (Pentax Digital Camera Utility 5) that came on a CD with the camera? It will read K-3 PEFs and DNGs perfectly.

12-03-2013, 05:17 PM	#44
ArneTorp Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oslo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 66	Originally posted by rawr What about the software (Pentax Digital Camera Utility 5) that came on a CD with the camera? It will read K-3 PEFs and DNGs perfectly. I believe he stated that he tested the camera in the shop - And therefor he does not have the CD to install that software?

12-03-2013, 05:27 PM	#45
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,203	Originally posted by normhead One more time… Adobe Raw Converter…. It converts the K-3 DNG file to a DNG file Aperture can read. NO need for TIFFs, no need for PSDs or any other large file format. It creates a nice DNG size file that your Aperture can read. End of problem. Norm, have patience with an old man (me) and make sure I'm clear. I've always shot RAW but never in the DNG format, so - were I to buy a K-3 before Apple updates Aperture (which I love) - I could simply: 1) download Adobe RAW converter; 2) set the camera to DNG format; 3) make the conversion to an Aperture-readible DNG file with the Adobe download; and 4) blissfully move that file forward through Aperture with the procedure I currently use with my K-5 and PEF files. I am planning to hold off buying a K-3 until Apple updates Aperture, but in case I cannot resist temptation this seems to be a fairly straight-forward approach until Apple does its thing and I can do the whole process in Aperture. Were I to say something incendiary, I'd mention that I'd give up photography before going back to a PC, so I won't say that. Jer