would any one mask the ricoh on k3

regor · 11-09-2013, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by pentax user

I don't have a k3 yet but the box and the new hd coating lenses have a big ricoh then a small pentax logo. Makes me uncomfortable. I know it doens't affect the performance. I am sure konica minolta fan didn't the sony logo back then.

don't know should this thread in pentax k3 section or accessory section.

Silly. And how on earth do you think one could look at a Pentax(Hoya) colonoscope and a Pentax(Ricoh) K3 and know these aren't fabricated by the same company? Surely Ricoh wants to make sure everyone is well aware that you shouldn't stuff your camera up your a## ! That's a good enough reason for me 😅

Joel B · 11-09-2013, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by regor

Silly. And how on earth do you think one could look at a Pentax(Hoya) colonoscope and a Pentax(Ricoh) K3 and know these aren't fabricated by the same company? Surely Ricoh wants to make sure everyone is well aware that you shouldn't stuff your camera up your a## ! That's a good enough reason for me 😅

A K-3 up the tailpipe would certainly make me uncomfortable, but I don't think the name Ricoh would make any difference!!!

jddwoods · 01-22-2014, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by tzeentchiangod

If Ricoh is the reason our Pentax gear keeps getting better, I have no problems seeing their logo on my gear.

I could not agree more. I will likely be upgrading my K10D later this year to a K3 and seeing Ricoh on the back of the camera doesn't bother me one bit. I have a newer K5 and it has Ricoh on the bottom of the camera which I was glad to see instead of Hoya.

**monochrome** · 01-22-2014, 06:10 PM

Some people want to repaint it Hocir or Choir.

KDAFA · 01-23-2014, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by pentax user

I don't have a k3 yet but the box and the new hd coating lenses have a big ricoh then a small pentax logo. Makes me uncomfortable. I know it doens't affect the performance. I am sure konica minolta fan didn't the sony logo back then.

don't know should this thread in pentax k3 section or accessory section.

When pictures of the K-3 first started appearing on the Internet, I was one of those who was not too happy with the presence of the RICOH label. But considering all the good work they had invested into the design of this camera, in all fairness, I felt RICOH deserved to have their name there.

Now having put the camera to real world use, I have found the K-3 to be a STUNNING photographic tool - so much so that thoughts of the RICOH brandname do not even enter my mind.

Indeed the sheer level of performance offered, and the pleasure of using the K-3 make the whole issue of the RICOH label largely irrelevant.

**Schraubstock** · 01-23-2014, 02:45 AM

Hi

We must not overlook the possibility that the PENTAX name can be sold to someone else. I would not know who to just at the moment though. But it has a value and my guess is RICOH would know this. In the past a number of brand names changed hands and some for a considerable amount of money.

Greetings

Kunzite · 01-23-2014, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by Schraubstock

We must not overlook the possibility that the PENTAX name can be sold to someone else. I would not know who to just at the moment though.

We can safely ignore this scenario. Pentax is not a mere name - but tradition, experience, people, K-mount, facilities, network... all of it essential to Ricoh Imaging.

**Schraubstock** · 01-24-2014, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

We can safely ignore this scenario. Pentax is not a mere name - but tradition, experience, people, K-mount, facilities, network... all of it essential to Ricoh Imaging.

And that's the reason I think why RICOH will think twice to lower the PENTAX name into the grave.
They may even be as proud of the name as we are. Who knows.

Greetings

stevebrot · 01-24-2014, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Schraubstock

We must not overlook the possibility that the PENTAX name can be sold to someone else.

...and that the Pentax name is currently held by Hoya for non-photographic optical products.

Steve

stevebrot · 01-24-2014, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Some people want to repaint it Hocir or Choir.

Sorry about the cross-post, but I still think the custom alternative has legs:

**Schraubstock** · 01-24-2014, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

...and that the Pentax name is currently held by Hoya for non-photographic optical products.

I thought about this too, perhaps Hoya would be interested to acquire full usage of the name ?

On the other hand RICOH might want to get away from the PENTAX name so their cameras are not going to be mistaken for an Endoscope

Greetings

**monochrome** · 01-24-2014, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Schraubstock

I thought about this too, perhaps Hoya would be interested to acquire full usage of the name ?

On the other hand RICOH might want to get away from the PENTAX name so their cameras are not going to be mistaken for an Endoscope

Greetings

Olympus it seems would be more interested in that change, given their 70% market share in endoscopy devices.

Joel B · 01-24-2014, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Schraubstock

On the other hand RICOH might want to get away from the PENTAX name so their cameras are not going to be mistaken for an Endoscope

To help prevent confusion and the possibility of getting your K-3 stuck in the wrong place, the back should be printed with Place Face Here.

panoguy · 01-24-2014, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Joel B

Originally posted by Schraubstock

On the other hand RICOH might want to get away from the PENTAX name so their cameras are not going to be mistaken for an Endoscope

To help prevent confusion and the possibility of getting your K-3 stuck in the wrong place, the back should be printed with Place Face Here.

Too many folks already have their heads stuck where the endoscope goes, so that kind of label would just prevent "recto-selfies."

Tanzer · 01-24-2014, 08:42 PM - **1 Like**

I think the fight over recto-selfie dominance is mostly between Ricoh and Canon, and over their photocopiers, so to speak.

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11-09-2013, 08:39 AM	#76
regor Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Victoria, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 356	Originally posted by pentax user I don't have a k3 yet but the box and the new hd coating lenses have a big ricoh then a small pentax logo. Makes me uncomfortable. I know it doens't affect the performance. I am sure konica minolta fan didn't the sony logo back then. don't know should this thread in pentax k3 section or accessory section. Silly. And how on earth do you think one could look at a Pentax(Hoya) colonoscope and a Pentax(Ricoh) K3 and know these aren't fabricated by the same company? Surely Ricoh wants to make sure everyone is well aware that you shouldn't stuff your camera up your a## ! That's a good enough reason for me 😅

11-09-2013, 05:47 PM	#77
Joel B Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barnett MO. Photos: Albums Posts: 2,336	Originally posted by regor Silly. And how on earth do you think one could look at a Pentax(Hoya) colonoscope and a Pentax(Ricoh) K3 and know these aren't fabricated by the same company? Surely Ricoh wants to make sure everyone is well aware that you shouldn't stuff your camera up your a## ! That's a good enough reason for me 😅 A K-3 up the tailpipe would certainly make me uncomfortable, but I don't think the name Ricoh would make any difference!!!

01-22-2014, 05:49 PM	#78
jddwoods Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,035	Originally posted by tzeentchiangod If Ricoh is the reason our Pentax gear keeps getting better, I have no problems seeing their logo on my gear. I could not agree more. I will likely be upgrading my K10D later this year to a K3 and seeing Ricoh on the back of the camera doesn't bother me one bit. I have a newer K5 and it has Ricoh on the bottom of the camera which I was glad to see instead of Hoya.

01-22-2014, 06:10 PM	#79
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Some people want to repaint it Hocir or Choir.

01-23-2014, 01:52 AM	#80
KDAFA Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 528	Originally posted by pentax user I don't have a k3 yet but the box and the new hd coating lenses have a big ricoh then a small pentax logo. Makes me uncomfortable. I know it doens't affect the performance. I am sure konica minolta fan didn't the sony logo back then. don't know should this thread in pentax k3 section or accessory section. When pictures of the K-3 first started appearing on the Internet, I was one of those who was not too happy with the presence of the RICOH label. But considering all the good work they had invested into the design of this camera, in all fairness, I felt RICOH deserved to have their name there. Now having put the camera to real world use, I have found the K-3 to be a STUNNING photographic tool - so much so that thoughts of the RICOH brandname do not even enter my mind. Indeed the sheer level of performance offered, and the pleasure of using the K-3 make the whole issue of the RICOH label largely irrelevant.

01-23-2014, 02:45 AM	#81
Schraubstock Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,386	Hi We must not overlook the possibility that the PENTAX name can be sold to someone else. I would not know who to just at the moment though. But it has a value and my guess is RICOH would know this. In the past a number of brand names changed hands and some for a considerable amount of money. Greetings

01-23-2014, 03:11 AM	#82
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Schraubstock We must not overlook the possibility that the PENTAX name can be sold to someone else. I would not know who to just at the moment though. We can safely ignore this scenario. Pentax is not a mere name - but tradition, experience, people, K-mount, facilities, network... all of it essential to Ricoh Imaging.

01-24-2014, 04:35 PM	#83
Schraubstock Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,386	Originally posted by Kunzite We can safely ignore this scenario. Pentax is not a mere name - but tradition, experience, people, K-mount, facilities, network... all of it essential to Ricoh Imaging. And that's the reason I think why RICOH will think twice to lower the PENTAX name into the grave. They may even be as proud of the name as we are. Who knows. Greetings

01-24-2014, 04:43 PM	#84
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Schraubstock We must not overlook the possibility that the PENTAX name can be sold to someone else. ...and that the Pentax name is currently held by Hoya for non-photographic optical products. Steve

01-24-2014, 04:45 PM	#85
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by monochrome Some people want to repaint it Hocir or Choir. Sorry about the cross-post, but I still think the custom alternative has legs:

01-24-2014, 05:21 PM	#86
Schraubstock Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,386	Originally posted by stevebrot ...and that the Pentax name is currently held by Hoya for non-photographic optical products. I thought about this too, perhaps Hoya would be interested to acquire full usage of the name ? On the other hand RICOH might want to get away from the PENTAX name so their cameras are not going to be mistaken for an Endoscope Greetings

01-24-2014, 05:31 PM	#87
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Schraubstock I thought about this too, perhaps Hoya would be interested to acquire full usage of the name ? On the other hand RICOH might want to get away from the PENTAX name so their cameras are not going to be mistaken for an Endoscope Greetings Olympus it seems would be more interested in that change, given their 70% market share in endoscopy devices.

01-24-2014, 05:57 PM	#88
Joel B Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barnett MO. Photos: Albums Posts: 2,336	Originally posted by Schraubstock On the other hand RICOH might want to get away from the PENTAX name so their cameras are not going to be mistaken for an Endoscope To help prevent confusion and the possibility of getting your K-3 stuck in the wrong place, the back should be printed with Place Face Here.

01-24-2014, 07:18 PM	#89
panoguy Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington, D.C. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,327	Originally posted by Joel B Originally posted by Schraubstock On the other hand RICOH might want to get away from the PENTAX name so their cameras are not going to be mistaken for an Endoscope To help prevent confusion and the possibility of getting your K-3 stuck in the wrong place, the back should be printed with Place Face Here. Too many folks already have their heads stuck where the endoscope goes, so that kind of label would just prevent "recto-selfies."

01-24-2014, 08:42 PM - 1 Like	#90
Tanzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Perrineville, NJ Posts: 1,375	I think the fight over recto-selfie dominance is mostly between Ricoh and Canon, and over their photocopiers, so to speak.