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kengoh · 11-10-2013, 12:55 AM

I just got the cam yesterday, till now I still can't find this Extended Bracketing mode, is it removed from K3?

rawr · 11-10-2013, 01:16 AM

The K-3 manual makes no mention of it. K-5II seems to be the last model to have that feature. It's not lurking somewhere in the menus? [I don't have a K-3].

Col · 11-10-2013, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by kengoh

I just got the cam yesterday, till now I still can't find this Extended Bracketing mode, is it removed from K3?

Yes... all our brilliant ideas for bracketing AA were for nought...

Steve.Ledger · 11-10-2013, 01:54 AM

What is extended bracketing?

Steve.Ledger · 11-10-2013, 04:19 AM

Is this what you are looking for?
The manual on page 51 shows that the K-3 can be set to 2 to 3 or to 5.

kengoh · 11-10-2013, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by rawr

The K-3 manual makes no mention of it. K-5II seems to be the last model to have that feature. It's not lurking somewhere in the menus? [I don't have a K-3].

Thanks rawr, I've downloaded K3 pdf file, search thru all the pages couldnt find a hit for "extended".
Did the same for K5, instantly found it.
I've went thru K3's menu numerous time and each time I'm disappointed.

kengoh · 11-10-2013, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by Col

Yes... all our brilliant ideas for bracketing AA were for nought...

Sigh* Wonder what's the reason Ricoh removed this settings?

Vylen · 11-10-2013, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by sledger

Is this what you are looking for?
The manual on page 51 shows that the K-3 can be set to 2 to 3 or to 5.

I did some googling... extended bracketing is where you can bracket things like saturation, hue, contrast.. etc...

I don't really understand it since I've never used it...

kengoh · 11-10-2013, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by sledger

Is this what you are looking for?
The manual on page 51 shows that the K-3 can be set to 2 to 3 or to 5.

Thanks for the effort to go thru the manual, this is not what I wanted.
The one on pg 51 is the One Push Auto-Bracketing.
Extended Bracketing does not only apply to Exposure (High/Low key adj), it also applies to Hue, Satuaration, White Balance, Sharpness and Contrast.

kengoh · 11-10-2013, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by Vylen

I did some googling... extended bracketing is where you can bracket things like saturation, hue, contrast.. etc...

I don't really understand it since I've never used it...

Yes you are right.

screwdriver222 · 11-10-2013, 04:32 AM

I have never used it myself, but I imagine it could be useful if you shoot jpeg.

Can't image why it's been removed.

Jeff

**wizofoz** · 11-10-2013, 04:51 AM

I've never actually understood or used the extended bracketing 'features' of the K-5 (or the K-7 for that matter) if it has been discontinued in the K-3 I wont miss it, and would probably not have even noticed, except for this post. I shoot almost exclusively in raw, so I guess it doesn't really apply to my usage.

How do you guys use it? what tips or circumstances for use can you pass on?

i83N · 11-10-2013, 08:10 AM

Just shoot raw

Col · 11-11-2013, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by i83N

Just shoot raw

Yes that precluded the point for using extended bracketing on the 5's, for me. Obviously were AA type to have been included then I would like it back. I assume its removal means they're stating how much better AWB and Prime III is.

asp1880 · 11-11-2013, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by wizofoz

How do you guys use it? what tips or circumstances for use can you pass on?

I've used it once or twice for actual photography beyond just trying it out.

It's moderately useful if you're intimate with the JPEG engine and have detailed experience of what all the settings can do for you, and you need or like or insist on having finished shots out of the camera.

I remember shooting a family winter outing in ice, snow, sun and thin high clouds where I could foresee that every shot would need a different contrast setting. So I tried out extended bracketing on contrast. Back home I could pick my preferred shots from three contrast variations of every exposure, which was OK I guess. OTOH, I also had to delete 3x more than usual and my card could only hold 1/3 of its usual exposures.

I could also imagine bracketing on contrast when shooting in fog and alternating between close and distant subjects. Far shots need more contrast boost than near shots in fog.

Or you could bracket on tint (green-magenta) in gyms under fluorescent lights or under green foliage.

Extended bracketing is not that great and I think it's taken out to simplify and to free up space for other stuff on the control panel. Most people also prefer to tinker with contrast, saturation, tint etc. in post. Extended bracketing is aimed at perfectionists, and perfectionists already shoot RAW.

Regards,
--Anders.

11-10-2013, 12:55 AM	#1
kengoh Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,790	No more Extended Bracketing for K3? I just got the cam yesterday, till now I still can't find this Extended Bracketing mode, is it removed from K3?

11-10-2013, 04:19 AM	#5
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Is this what you are looking for? The manual on page 51 shows that the K-3 can be set to 2 to 3 or to 5. Last edited by Steve.Ledger; 08-10-2014 at 10:12 PM.

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11-10-2013, 01:16 AM	#2
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	The K-3 manual makes no mention of it. K-5II seems to be the last model to have that feature. It's not lurking somewhere in the menus? [I don't have a K-3].

11-10-2013, 01:25 AM	#3
Col Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stansted Essex Photos: Gallery Posts: 614	Originally posted by kengoh I just got the cam yesterday, till now I still can't find this Extended Bracketing mode, is it removed from K3? Yes... all our brilliant ideas for bracketing AA were for nought...

11-10-2013, 01:54 AM	#4
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	What is extended bracketing?

11-10-2013, 04:21 AM	#6
kengoh Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,790 Original Poster	Originally posted by rawr The K-3 manual makes no mention of it. K-5II seems to be the last model to have that feature. It's not lurking somewhere in the menus? [I don't have a K-3]. Thanks rawr, I've downloaded K3 pdf file, search thru all the pages couldnt find a hit for "extended". Did the same for K5, instantly found it. I've went thru K3's menu numerous time and each time I'm disappointed.

11-10-2013, 04:22 AM	#7
kengoh Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,790 Original Poster	Originally posted by Col Yes... all our brilliant ideas for bracketing AA were for nought... Sigh* Wonder what's the reason Ricoh removed this settings?

11-10-2013, 04:24 AM	#8
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by sledger Is this what you are looking for? The manual on page 51 shows that the K-3 can be set to 2 to 3 or to 5. I did some googling... extended bracketing is where you can bracket things like saturation, hue, contrast.. etc... I don't really understand it since I've never used it...

11-10-2013, 04:25 AM	#9
kengoh Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,790 Original Poster	Originally posted by sledger Is this what you are looking for? The manual on page 51 shows that the K-3 can be set to 2 to 3 or to 5. Thanks for the effort to go thru the manual, this is not what I wanted. The one on pg 51 is the One Push Auto-Bracketing. Extended Bracketing does not only apply to Exposure (High/Low key adj), it also applies to Hue, Satuaration, White Balance, Sharpness and Contrast.

11-10-2013, 04:26 AM	#10
kengoh Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,790 Original Poster	Originally posted by Vylen I did some googling... extended bracketing is where you can bracket things like saturation, hue, contrast.. etc... I don't really understand it since I've never used it... Yes you are right.

11-10-2013, 04:32 AM	#11
screwdriver222 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Plymouth Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 139	I have never used it myself, but I imagine it could be useful if you shoot jpeg. Can't image why it's been removed. Jeff

11-10-2013, 04:51 AM	#12
wizofoz Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne, Outer east. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,695	I've never actually understood or used the extended bracketing 'features' of the K-5 (or the K-7 for that matter) if it has been discontinued in the K-3 I wont miss it, and would probably not have even noticed, except for this post. I shoot almost exclusively in raw, so I guess it doesn't really apply to my usage. How do you guys use it? what tips or circumstances for use can you pass on?

11-10-2013, 08:10 AM	#13
i83N Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,203	Just shoot raw

11-11-2013, 04:35 AM	#14
Col Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stansted Essex Photos: Gallery Posts: 614	Originally posted by i83N Just shoot raw Yes that precluded the point for using extended bracketing on the 5's, for me. Obviously were AA type to have been included then I would like it back. I assume its removal means they're stating how much better AWB and Prime III is.

11-11-2013, 02:29 PM	#15
asp1880 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lyngby, Copenhagen Photos: Albums Posts: 742	Originally posted by wizofoz How do you guys use it? what tips or circumstances for use can you pass on? I've used it once or twice for actual photography beyond just trying it out. It's moderately useful if you're intimate with the JPEG engine and have detailed experience of what all the settings can do for you, and you need or like or insist on having finished shots out of the camera. I remember shooting a family winter outing in ice, snow, sun and thin high clouds where I could foresee that every shot would need a different contrast setting. So I tried out extended bracketing on contrast. Back home I could pick my preferred shots from three contrast variations of every exposure, which was OK I guess. OTOH, I also had to delete 3x more than usual and my card could only hold 1/3 of its usual exposures. I could also imagine bracketing on contrast when shooting in fog and alternating between close and distant subjects. Far shots need more contrast boost than near shots in fog. Or you could bracket on tint (green-magenta) in gyms under fluorescent lights or under green foliage. Extended bracketing is not that great and I think it's taken out to simplify and to free up space for other stuff on the control panel. Most people also prefer to tinker with contrast, saturation, tint etc. in post. Extended bracketing is aimed at perfectionists, and perfectionists already shoot RAW. Regards, --Anders.

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