I fixed my K3 tonight

DennisH · 11-20-2013, 07:06 PM

That is so weird.

**LaurenOE** · 11-20-2013, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Ha, ha

Quite correct, brand loyalty is in many ways irrational and does not always follow a truly logical path

Hmm, I thought the purchase was final October 1, 2011? So two years to ramp up, rebuild, upgrade facilities.

I don't think that is possible. But Asahi Man has stated that the k-3 was present at PhotoKina last year but Ricoh pulled the plug on it as they were not happy with it. So (for me) if the only contribution Ricoh has made is to make sure what goes out the door is 'right' before it does, then I'm happy.

I see this as a merger of Ricoh manufacturing technology and Pentax camera engineering. Ricoh does not have to bring any camera tech to the table, indeed if they had their own DSLR technology why would they buy Pentax? What they do need to bring is manufacturing ability, capital and worldwide market presence.

Personally I am delighted to NOT see a whole lot of Ricoh in this camera. We all loved the k-5 ergonomics, menus, etc, etc. They could have changed the whole camera menu, revised the ergonomics or a number of other things to put their 'stamp' on it, but they didn't. They kept the best parts, added some new things, and improved the areas people were complaining about. What's not to like?

I'm OK with the Ricoh on the back, but I have a prior relationship with Ricoh on the copier side. Which has been very good. I would strongly recommend them for the quality of the machines and the service they provide. So I have a "brand loyalty" to Ricoh already. I'm OK with you not liking it on the back. And I am very happy you got it 'fixed'. But I take the Ricoh on the back a little differently. I think they are just saying they helped produce an excellent camera, are proud of it and don't mind having their name on it.

If anyone doesn't like seeing Ricoh on the back then they can just Laurenize™ it

Awesome! Exactly!

I never "dated" Ricoh, and the way he's "come on to me" has been too aggressive.
When Ricoh comes up with their own moves and gets confident on their own, then I will feel they deserve my "love".

I can't wait for my first Ricoh.
I was tempted by the green Special Edition GR, but I think a K-01/GXR with a K-Mount would be an AMAZING first date!

I'm looking forward to something like that.

OldNoob · 11-20-2013, 07:20 PM

Having worked with models ( the plastic kind), I can tell you that removing the Ricoh Logo and replacing it with a Pentax Transfer decal would be rather simple.

:P

**LaurenOE** · 11-20-2013, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by OldNoob

Having worked with models ( the plastic kind), I can tell you that removing the Ricoh Logo and replacing it with a Pentax Transfer decal would be rather simple.

:P

Nice! I wish I knew of the black arts you speak of sir!

**RobA_Oz** · 11-20-2013, 07:43 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by LaurenOE

Nice! I wish I knew of the black arts you speak of sir!

I imagine that a pot of plastic filler, some fine emery and a paintbrush or airbrush has something to do with it.

DogLover · 11-20-2013, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by OldNoob

Having worked with models ( the plastic kind)

There's another kind?

jon404 · 11-21-2013, 02:52 AM

Tried your brand-name coverup, but it seems that Ricoh is using a new imprinting system that uses positive ions to always bring back the maker's mark to the surface of the masking attempt.

Not much we can do. Quality always rises to the top!

Attached Images

striker_ · 11-21-2013, 04:05 AM

The funny thing is when I bought my first DSLR I was looking at one I could you use with my older lens. And you know what? That camera+lens was from Ricoh! Ricoh made me come to Pentax and now they come back.

mrNewt · 11-21-2013, 06:17 AM

^ Good point. My Ricoh lenses would feel at home in front of a K-3

.

normhead · 11-21-2013, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by striker_

The funny thing is when I bought my first DSLR I was looking at one I could you use with my older lens. And you know what? That camera+lens was from Ricoh! Ricoh made me come to Pentax and now they come back.

They valued you so much as a customer, they bought a whole company just to get you back.

mrNewt · 11-21-2013, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by normhead

They valued you so much as a customer, they bought a whole company just to get you back.

What a brilliant line to use in their ads...

**THoog** · 11-21-2013, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by DogLover

There's another kind?

Some models are fairly wooden. Or made of ice.

jon404 · 11-21-2013, 03:17 PM

Maybe I'll make a sticker to put RICOH on the back of my K-30!

@Thoog -- really, really liked your 'Sam-I-Am' poem. Fun!

CarlG · 11-21-2013, 03:36 PM - **1 Like**

Hi Lauren, good idea, I've done the same, now. And I threw the box away. Carl

**Merts** · 11-21-2013, 06:06 PM

I checked the back of my Lanier copier/printer. I found Ricoh printed there along with the model and serial numbers.
How dare a manufacturer put their name on one of their products? It's a disgrace I tell you.
I'm buying a can of spray paint at lunchtime and I will 'fix' my copier before the day is out.

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DennisH Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stratford, CT Photos: Gallery Posts: 730	That is so weird.

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LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690 Original Poster	Originally posted by jatrax Ha, ha Quite correct, brand loyalty is in many ways irrational and does not always follow a truly logical path Hmm, I thought the purchase was final October 1, 2011? So two years to ramp up, rebuild, upgrade facilities. I don't think that is possible. But Asahi Man has stated that the k-3 was present at PhotoKina last year but Ricoh pulled the plug on it as they were not happy with it. So (for me) if the only contribution Ricoh has made is to make sure what goes out the door is 'right' before it does, then I'm happy. I see this as a merger of Ricoh manufacturing technology and Pentax camera engineering. Ricoh does not have to bring any camera tech to the table, indeed if they had their own DSLR technology why would they buy Pentax? What they do need to bring is manufacturing ability, capital and worldwide market presence. Personally I am delighted to NOT see a whole lot of Ricoh in this camera. We all loved the k-5 ergonomics, menus, etc, etc. They could have changed the whole camera menu, revised the ergonomics or a number of other things to put their 'stamp' on it, but they didn't. They kept the best parts, added some new things, and improved the areas people were complaining about. What's not to like? I'm OK with the Ricoh on the back, but I have a prior relationship with Ricoh on the copier side. Which has been very good. I would strongly recommend them for the quality of the machines and the service they provide. So I have a "brand loyalty" to Ricoh already. I'm OK with you not liking it on the back. And I am very happy you got it 'fixed'. But I take the Ricoh on the back a little differently. I think they are just saying they helped produce an excellent camera, are proud of it and don't mind having their name on it. If anyone doesn't like seeing Ricoh on the back then they can just Laurenize™ it Awesome! Exactly! I never "dated" Ricoh, and the way he's "come on to me" has been too aggressive. When Ricoh comes up with their own moves and gets confident on their own, then I will feel they deserve my "love". I can't wait for my first Ricoh. I was tempted by the green Special Edition GR, but I think a K-01/GXR with a K-Mount would be an AMAZING first date! I'm looking forward to something like that.

11-20-2013, 07:20 PM	#93
OldNoob Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 402	Having worked with models ( the plastic kind), I can tell you that removing the Ricoh Logo and replacing it with a Pentax Transfer decal would be rather simple. :P

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LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690 Original Poster	Originally posted by OldNoob Having worked with models ( the plastic kind), I can tell you that removing the Ricoh Logo and replacing it with a Pentax Transfer decal would be rather simple. :P Nice! I wish I knew of the black arts you speak of sir!

11-20-2013, 07:43 PM - 1 Like	#95
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by LaurenOE Nice! I wish I knew of the black arts you speak of sir! I imagine that a pot of plastic filler, some fine emery and a paintbrush or airbrush has something to do with it.

11-20-2013, 08:54 PM	#96
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by OldNoob Having worked with models ( the plastic kind) There's another kind?

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jon404 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 696	Tried your brand-name coverup, but it seems that Ricoh is using a new imprinting system that uses positive ions to always bring back the maker's mark to the surface of the masking attempt. Not much we can do. Quality always rises to the top! Attached Images

11-21-2013, 04:05 AM	#98
striker_ Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 158	The funny thing is when I bought my first DSLR I was looking at one I could you use with my older lens. And you know what? That camera+lens was from Ricoh! Ricoh made me come to Pentax and now they come back.

11-21-2013, 06:17 AM	#99
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	^ Good point. My Ricoh lenses would feel at home in front of a K-3 .

11-21-2013, 07:01 AM	#100
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by striker_ The funny thing is when I bought my first DSLR I was looking at one I could you use with my older lens. And you know what? That camera+lens was from Ricoh! Ricoh made me come to Pentax and now they come back. They valued you so much as a customer, they bought a whole company just to get you back.

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mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by normhead They valued you so much as a customer, they bought a whole company just to get you back. What a brilliant line to use in their ads...

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THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by DogLover There's another kind? Some models are fairly wooden. Or made of ice.

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CarlG Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 417	Hi Lauren, good idea, I've done the same, now. And I threw the box away. Carl

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Merts Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 132	I checked the back of my Lanier copier/printer. I found Ricoh printed there along with the model and serial numbers. How dare a manufacturer put their name on one of their products? It's a disgrace I tell you. I'm buying a can of spray paint at lunchtime and I will 'fix' my copier before the day is out.