Originally posted by Imageman So Pentax was dismembered and was not seen as profitable then sold on to Ricoh for a huge amount, on the understanding that Ricoh would have to invest heavily, and they did.
Isnt this exactly what ive just said.
Pentax were dead in the water until Ricoh stepped up invested in them and saved them. So lets be grateful they did.
Not exactly. I don't agree Pentax was dead - see the tons of pages that have come before this thread-reawakening.
That might be the *new* narrative, but it doesn't fit with reality.
I know there was/is a core group of Pentaxians who have been the ones buying Pentax through the thick and thin.
I am one of those, so my loyalty to Pentax has never been questioned.
I am old school Pentax, and I have bought almost every single flagship dSLR since the *ist-D.
I have zero problem with Ricoh coming in and investing and making Pentax a better camera.
It's *how* Ricoh has been doing it. Ricoh on the back of a
K5 Mark III -
aka the K3 is pushing their contribution.
In 2014, there is not a SINGLE product that was not in prototype form under Pentax/Hoya under Ricoh.
Ricoh has not given us anything that would not have come along had Hoya not stripped the company.
If you want to talk failures, the Ricoh GXR was/is a TOTAL failure.
So Pentax was NEVER a failed company, just mismanaged.
That is a BIG difference to thinking Pentax was a bunch of flunkies and Ricoh came and straightened them out. Maybe the bean counters, but not the core Pentax folks.
The core of Pentax has always been Japanese optical excellence, and so far, Ricoh's contribution has been behind the scenes.
The whole point of this thread was putting Ricoh on the back of the K3.
The K3 is basically a K5 with some substantial tweaks.
When Ricoh comes out with something they can claim as their own brilliance and not something from the Pentax/Hoya brain trust, is when I will have no problem putting Ricoh on the back of the camera.
Hmmm...I think I might have said the same thing in many posts previous to this one.
Originally posted by monochrome I think everybody gets that. Doesn't mean we cannot hope Ricoh keeps the special parts of Pentax special. Doesn't mean Lauren has to like Ricoh paint on the back.
Every Pentax camera had the corporate name painted on the bottom: Pentax Corporation, Hoya Corporation, Ricoh Imaging. No one complained.
Yep. I don't hate Ricoh, not in the least.
I just think fair is fair.
A Ricoh GR is in my future and maybe something original they might come up with.
If Ricoh comes out with a GH4 killer, and puts their name on THAT, then I will gladly buy it, even maybe a few of them.
If it takes K mount glass even better!
Ricoh should give us a mirror-less mash-up of the GXR and K-01
So, if the K-01 is resurrected and has Ricoh all over it, fair game!
That is something I would buy tomorrow.