SR...LV...and ratlle clunking

Dlanor Sekao · 01-09-2015, 10:37 AM

I guess I need some assurance there is nothing wrong with my K3.....

With SR "OFF" in LV....I hear NO noise inside.....like a little clunking rattle when I move the body......
But....with SR "ON" in LV .....it rattles like crazy and I can actually feel it bumping around in there......

I pulled the lens off and checked it in different modes....I can actually see it shaking around in there but only in LV.....?
If it were working properly wouldn't I hear and feel it when using in any viewing mode ?

It only is noticeable in LV....not when using the eye viewfinder.

Is my camera muffed up ?

Yes....Ive read the other posts but none seemed to direct the question as I posted....HELP !

Last edited by Dlanor Sekao; 01-09-2015 at 10:58 AM.

Unregistered User · 01-09-2015, 11:22 AM

On or Off makes, as far as I can hear, the same noise on my copy. Both in LV and Movie mode. Only when using the Astrotracer function with the O-GPS1 it makes a weird cluncy sound when following the stars. That is actually good because then I know it is doing a good job, if silent I know I missed the shot before the preview comes on...

Dlanor Sekao · 01-09-2015, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

On or Off makes, as far as I can hear, the same noise on my copy. Both in LV and Movie mode. Only when using the Astrotracer function with the O-GPS1 it makes a weird cluncy sound when following the stars. That is actually good because then I know it is doing a good job, if silent I know I missed the shot before the preview comes on...

Mine only does it in LV....I understand its the sensor moving around.....but why on mine is it only in LV ???

Adam · 01-09-2015, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by az1895

Mine only does it in LV....I understand its the sensor moving around.....but why on mine is it only in LV ???

Because the sensor has to be kept in place by the SR system, even if it isn't compensating for camera shake.

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Dlanor Sekao · 01-09-2015, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Because the sensor has to be kept in place by the SR system, even if it isn't compensating for camera shake.

Thanks.....Yes....I figured it out.
When SR is enabled it always is on and compensates. But in live view its constant , and in eye view its only at the moment of release and exposure....I just hear and notice it in Live view ....Regular eye view its undetectable.
I understand it now and it makes sense....................whew !

The K30 seems more pronounced (Rattle and noisy)....... than the K3 which is more smooth and quiet.

Giklab · 01-09-2015, 03:14 PM

Did you really just say you used LV with no lens on?

Unregistered User · 01-09-2015, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Giklab

Did you really just say you used LV with no lens on?

I guess it is not so different than a mirrorless camera that exposes the sensor when not taking a photo or is that a big no no?

stevebrot · 01-09-2015, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Giklab

Did you really just say you used LV with no lens on?

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

I guess it is not so different than a mirrorless camera that exposes the sensor when not taking a photo or is that a big no no?

I don't see the problem here. The camera does not know the difference.

Steve

Dlanor Sekao · 01-09-2015, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Giklab

Did you really just say you used LV with no lens on?

Absolutely......to check it !
None of my lenses have contacts so its fine!
It was a quick check.......I'm no fraidy cat !
No different than cleaning or changing a screen.

Giklab · 01-10-2015, 12:55 AM

@tjompen It's the same thing. And you shouldn't have the camera on and lens off there EITHER.

@stevebrot The dust does

@az1895 I suggest running Dust Check and Dust Removal. Having the camera ON is very different. The sensor is charged and as such attracts dust. You might be lucky and not have any, or you might have gotten a buttload of spots.

Dlanor Sekao · 01-10-2015, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by Giklab

@tjompen It's the same thing. And you shouldn't have the camera on and lens off there EITHER.

@stevebrot The dust does

@az1895 I suggest running Dust Check and Dust Removal. Having the camera ON is very different. The sensor is charged and as such attracts dust. You might be lucky and not have any, or you might have gotten a buttload of spots.

Nope....no dust.....checked it 2 minutes after......both of them are fine.
I actually shoot the K30 with a DIY large aperture leaf shutter scavenged off my old Mamiya Rz and its open then too. Its no big deal.

01-09-2015, 10:37 AM	#1
Dlanor Sekao Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,457	SR...LV...and ratlle clunking I guess I need some assurance there is nothing wrong with my K3..... With SR "OFF" in LV....I hear NO noise inside.....like a little clunking rattle when I move the body...... But....with SR "ON" in LV .....it rattles like crazy and I can actually feel it bumping around in there...... I pulled the lens off and checked it in different modes....I can actually see it shaking around in there but only in LV.....? If it were working properly wouldn't I hear and feel it when using in any viewing mode ? It only is noticeable in LV....not when using the eye viewfinder. Is my camera muffed up ? Yes....Ive read the other posts but none seemed to direct the question as I posted....HELP ! Last edited by Dlanor Sekao; 01-09-2015 at 10:58 AM.

01-10-2015, 08:27 AM	#11
Dlanor Sekao Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,457 Original Poster	Originally posted by Giklab @tjompen It's the same thing. And you shouldn't have the camera on and lens off there EITHER. @stevebrot The dust does @az1895 I suggest running Dust Check and Dust Removal. Having the camera ON is very different. The sensor is charged and as such attracts dust. You might be lucky and not have any, or you might have gotten a buttload of spots. Nope....no dust.....checked it 2 minutes after......both of them are fine. I actually shoot the K30 with a DIY large aperture leaf shutter scavenged off my old Mamiya Rz and its open then too. Its no big deal. Last edited by Dlanor Sekao; 01-10-2015 at 10:19 AM.

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01-09-2015, 11:22 AM	#2
Unregistered User Guest	On or Off makes, as far as I can hear, the same noise on my copy. Both in LV and Movie mode. Only when using the Astrotracer function with the O-GPS1 it makes a weird cluncy sound when following the stars. That is actually good because then I know it is doing a good job, if silent I know I missed the shot before the preview comes on...

01-09-2015, 12:04 PM	#3
Dlanor Sekao Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,457 Original Poster	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 On or Off makes, as far as I can hear, the same noise on my copy. Both in LV and Movie mode. Only when using the Astrotracer function with the O-GPS1 it makes a weird cluncy sound when following the stars. That is actually good because then I know it is doing a good job, if silent I know I missed the shot before the preview comes on... Mine only does it in LV....I understand its the sensor moving around.....but why on mine is it only in LV ???

01-09-2015, 01:23 PM	#4
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Originally posted by az1895 Mine only does it in LV....I understand its the sensor moving around.....but why on mine is it only in LV ??? Because the sensor has to be kept in place by the SR system, even if it isn't compensating for camera shake. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

01-09-2015, 01:42 PM	#5
Dlanor Sekao Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,457 Original Poster	Originally posted by Adam Because the sensor has to be kept in place by the SR system, even if it isn't compensating for camera shake. Thanks.....Yes....I figured it out. When SR is enabled it always is on and compensates. But in live view its constant , and in eye view its only at the moment of release and exposure....I just hear and notice it in Live view ....Regular eye view its undetectable. I understand it now and it makes sense....................whew ! The K30 seems more pronounced (Rattle and noisy)....... than the K3 which is more smooth and quiet.

01-09-2015, 03:14 PM	#6
Giklab Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,182	Did you really just say you used LV with no lens on?

01-09-2015, 03:34 PM	#7
Unregistered User Guest	Originally posted by Giklab Did you really just say you used LV with no lens on? I guess it is not so different than a mirrorless camera that exposes the sensor when not taking a photo or is that a big no no?

01-09-2015, 05:17 PM	#8
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Giklab Did you really just say you used LV with no lens on? Originally posted by Tjompen1968 I guess it is not so different than a mirrorless camera that exposes the sensor when not taking a photo or is that a big no no? I don't see the problem here. The camera does not know the difference. Steve

01-09-2015, 07:04 PM	#9
Dlanor Sekao Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,457 Original Poster	Originally posted by Giklab Did you really just say you used LV with no lens on? Absolutely......to check it ! None of my lenses have contacts so its fine! It was a quick check.......I'm no fraidy cat ! No different than cleaning or changing a screen.

01-10-2015, 12:55 AM	#10
Giklab Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,182	@tjompen It's the same thing. And you shouldn't have the camera on and lens off there EITHER. @stevebrot The dust does @az1895 I suggest running Dust Check and Dust Removal. Having the camera ON is very different. The sensor is charged and as such attracts dust. You might be lucky and not have any, or you might have gotten a buttload of spots.