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07-14-2015, 09:17 AM   #1
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Disable JPEG capture

I would have thought this would be a simple thing to do, or at least find out how to do. But I can't find it.

Simply, how do you disable the JPEG capture in the K3 so that it only writes the RAW files?

Thanks!

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Turn the camera on. Hit the menu button. The second option in menu 1 (Image Capture Settings). Set it to RAW/DNG (or PEF) instead of RAW+.

You can also do it by hitting Info, use the 4 way to go to the setting at the bottom (second from left), and use the rear edial to set it to RAW.

If you are using 2 SD cards you can set it to save RAW to one and JPEG to the second in the Info control panel too.
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Turn the camera on. Hit the menu button. The second option in menu 1 (Image Capture Settings). Set it to RAW/DNG (or PEF) instead of RAW+.

You can also do it by hitting Info, use the 4 way to go to the setting at the bottom (second from left), and use the rear edial to set it to RAW.

If you are using 2 SD cards you can set it to save RAW to one and JPEG to the second in the Info control panel too.
Ah yes. Thanks. Hence why it is called "RAW+"!

Now changed on my K3 and Q7. Thanks.
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I only shoot using RAW but I am finding that the use of jpeg format with RAW+ is kind of handy to review images. I can sort through the ones I want to develop really quickly... But to each his or her own.

Then again I don't shoot massive amounts of photos.

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QuoteOriginally posted by gullwing Quote
I would have thought this would be a simple thing to do, or at least find out how to do. But I can't find it.

Simply, how do you disable the JPEG capture in the K3 so that it only writes the RAW files?

Thanks!
You can also change the file format quickly through the control panel (info button). The setting is in the bottom row.

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QuoteOriginally posted by alamo5000 Quote
I only shoot using RAW but I am finding that the use of jpeg format with RAW+ is kind of handy to review images. I can sort through the ones I want to develop really quickly... But to each his or her own.
You don't need RAW+ because RAW has an embedded JPG anyway (it's what you see on the camera LCD and where the EXIF is held). You can review for deletion etc using FASTSTONE which loads the embedded JPG first for fast viewing. No point in using additional space for an extra JPG when it's not necessary.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Steve.Ledger Quote
You don't need RAW+ because RAW has an embedded JPG anyway (it's what you see on the camera LCD and where the EXIF is held). You can review for deletion etc using FASTSTONE which loads the embedded JPG first for fast viewing. No point in using additional space for an extra JPG when it's not necessary.
I use FastStone, and I would disagree. Segregating RAWs from small JPEGs on the two cards allows quick set up of two file folders on the computer. I often delete RAWs of images that won't be processed, but like to have a full history of what was shot. Once on the computer, your converter can be set up to ignore the JPEG album, and both FastStone and the converter operate quicker when these images are separated in the two albums. On a large shoot, you can review the JPEGs in FastStone quickly, find a file number and locate the same file in the RAW converter - which allows the main working area to be kept as large as possible. This system gives me the most efficient workflow, and allows other programs to stay open with other work projects. My Windows computers are both medium to medium-fast in overall speed (emphasis on RAM utility, not a gaming set up) - about 2 years old.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Steve.Ledger Quote
You don't need RAW+ because RAW has an embedded JPG anyway (it's what you see on the camera LCD and where the EXIF is held). You can review for deletion etc using FASTSTONE which loads the embedded JPG first for fast viewing. No point in using additional space for an extra JPG when it's not necessary.
I think the rational for RAW+ is to provide the means for fast publication w/o access to a RAW convertor.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Steve.Ledger Quote
You don't need RAW+ because RAW has an embedded JPG anyway (it's what you see on the camera LCD and where the EXIF is held). You can review for deletion etc using FASTSTONE which loads the embedded JPG first for fast viewing. No point in using additional space for an extra JPG when it's not necessary.
but then you still have to develop the raw, while with raw+jpeg the jpeg produced by the camera might be good enough. The extracted one on the other hand is pretty much useless except for the preview on the camera screen.
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but then you still have to develop the raw, while with raw+jpeg the jpeg produced by the camera might be good enough. The extracted one on the other hand is pretty much useless except for the preview on the camera screen.
The embedded JPG is identical to the JPEG as the RAW+ in every way. Full res and same camera processing.
You only choose to develop the RAW if the embedded JPG shows that the photo is worth more work.
I posted this suggestion and have continued to use this method for many years because I do know what I'm talking about here.
The only camera I've come across where it is in fact useless is the GR. It's preview JPG is very small, not the full res.

@stevebrot
There's not much faster than viewing in FASTSTONE, press Ctrl+S to save out (you can even save at a low res for the web) then publish to the web.
I do it all the time...

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[OT:] Yay !!! It's nice to hear of someone else using FastStone (I assume the FastStone Image Viewer, which is my most frequently used image software).
Me too. It's exceedingly useful and pretty powerful once you get to know it in depth. Most people don't.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Volker76 Quote
The extracted one on the other hand is pretty much useless except for the preview on the camera screen.
What he said.


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
What he said.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Steve.Ledger Quote
The embedded JPG is identical to the JPEG as the RAW+ in every way. Full res and same camera processing.
it is not.

[MakerNotes] PreviewImageSize : 720x480

exiftool -b -PreviewImage -w preview0055.jpg IMGP0055.DNG

file IMGP0055preview0055.jpg
IMGP0055preview0055.jpg: JPEG image data, baseline, precision 8, 720x480, frames 3

compared with:

file IMGP0055.JPG
IMGP0055.JPG: JPEG image data, Exif standard: [TIFF image data, little-endian, direntries=14, manufacturer=RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD. , model=PENTAX K-3 , orientation=upper-left, xresolution=234, yresolution=242, resolutionunit=2, software=PENTAX K-3 Ver. 1.11 , datetime=2014:12:18 17:27:30], baseline, precision 8, 6016x4000, frames 3
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Codswallop
Cool word! Same back at ya!


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QuoteOriginally posted by Volker76 Quote
it is not.

[MakerNotes] PreviewImageSize : 720x480

exiftool -b -PreviewImage -w preview0055.jpg IMGP0055.DNG

file IMGP0055preview0055.jpg
IMGP0055preview0055.jpg: JPEG image data, baseline, precision 8, 720x480, frames 3

compared with:

file IMGP0055.JPG
IMGP0055.JPG: JPEG image data, Exif standard: [TIFF image data, little-endian, direntries=14, manufacturer=RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD. , model=PENTAX K-3 , orientation=upper-left, xresolution=234, yresolution=242, resolutionunit=2, software=PENTAX K-3 Ver. 1.11 , datetime=2014:12:18 17:27:30], baseline, precision 8, 6016x4000, frames 3
It is..
You must think I am a complete idiot if you imagine for one moment that I would explain about this useful technique and tell you that I have been using this for many years if all I was getting was a very small image out of the RAW files???? I have said that the embeded JPG is exactly the same res as the RAW because as a point of actual fact.. It is!!
EXIF tool may be reading something innacurately/differently to FASTSTONE, because I have K-3 DNG files here where the embedded JPEG is exactly the same res as the RAW and the same as you get if you shot RAW+. You might also like to try InstantJPEGfromRAW (free) - you'll get the exact same result as Faststone. Professionals use this tool for fast deployment of JPG from their RAW.
BTW: I do see in my EXIF reader 'FaceDetectFrameSize 720 480' - which has nothing to do with the actual embedded JPEG size.

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