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10-02-2015, 04:49 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote


The photo was taken the same time as the digital shots, so October 2009. The film was from the last production run of Kodachrome that was made available after the official product end-of-life. I felt privileged to have scored five of those last rolls.


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Cool, I have thousands of them between mine and my Dads old ones (going back to the 50's). They are a great legacy. I hope to get through digitizing them
some time.

I'll send you a PM for that RAW link, thanks. I am away from my desktop with darktable installed till next week, but I'll try it out then.

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Send me a PM and I will send you a link.
QuoteOriginally posted by jhmos Quote
I'll send you a PM for that RAW link, thanks. I am away from my desktop with darktable installed till next week, but I'll try it out then.
Ok...I reneged on the offer of the RAW, but I did revisit the original PEF and gave it a fresh try using LR 5.6 and the 2012 process rather than the 2003 process used before. Here is the side-by-side comparison (screen capture) with the in-camera JPEG on the left:



I think I was able to do a much better job with the current version of ACR, though the in-camera still did better with the low values.

The history steps to produce the image on the right:



And, for those who are interested, the EXIF from the in-camera JPEG:


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---- File ----
File Name : IMGP2-2981.JPG
Directory : Nope...nothing to see here
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File Access Date/Time : 2014:05:19 12:03:50-07:00
File Creation Date/Time : 2014:05:19 12:03:50-07:00
File Permissions : rw-rw-rw-
File Type : JPEG
MIME Type : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Image Width : 3872
Image Height : 2592
Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample : 8
Color Components : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
---- EXIF ----
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Modify Date : 2009:10:29 13:43:39
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F Number : 4.0
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ISO : 100
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Date/Time Original : 2009:10:28 13:49:32
Create Date : 2009:10:28 13:49:32
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Exposure Compensation : 0
Metering Mode : Multi-segment
Flash : Off, Did not fire
Focal Length : 35.0 mm
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Color Space : sRGB
Exif Image Width : 3872
Exif Image Height : 2592
Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
Interoperability Version : 0100
Sensing Method : One-chip color area
File Source : Digital Camera
Scene Type : Directly photographed
Custom Rendered : Normal
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White Balance : Manual
Focal Length In 35mm Format : 52 mm
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Saturation : Normal
Sharpness : Hard
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Y Resolution : 72
Resolution Unit : inches
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Thumbnail Length : 5838
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Pentax Model Type : 0
Preview Image Size : 640x480
Preview Image Length : 23818
Preview Image Start : 2284
Pentax Model ID : K10D
Date : 2009:10:28
Time : 13:49:32
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AF Point Selected : Fixed Center
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F Number : 4.0
ISO : 100
Exposure Compensation : 0
Metering Mode : Multi-segment
Auto Bracketing : 0 EV, No Extended Bracket
White Balance : Cloudy
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Contrast : Normal
Sharpness : Hard
World Time Location : Hometown
Hometown City : San Francisco
Destination City : New York
Hometown DST : Yes
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CPU Firmware Version : 1.20.00.14
Effective LV : 11.5
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Drive Mode : Single-frame; No Timer; Shutter Button; Single
Exposure
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Camera Temperature : 13 C
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SR Result : Stabilized
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SR Half Press Time : 1.07 s
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Black Point : 0 0 0 0
White Point : 14560 8192 8192 7776
Picture Mode 2 : Program AE
Program Line : Normal
EV Steps : 1/2 EV Steps
E-Dial In Program : Tv or Av
Aperture Ring Use : Permitted
Flash Options : Normal
Metering Mode 2 : Multi-segment
AF Point Mode : Fixed Center
Focus Mode 2 : Manual
AF Point Selected 2 : Center
ISO Floor : 100
Drive Mode 2 : Single-frame
Exposure Bracket Step Size : 0.5
Bracket Shot Number : n/a
White Balance Set : Auto
Multiple Exposure Set : Off
Raw And Jpg Recording : RAW (PEF, Best)
Jpg Recorded Pixels : 10 MP
Flash Options 2 : Normal
Metering Mode 3 : Multi-segment
SR Active : Yes
Rotation : Horizontal (normal)
ISO Setting : Manual
Sensitivity Steps : 1 EV Steps
Tv Exposure Time Setting : 1/32
Av Aperture Setting : 5.7
Sv ISO Setting : 283
Base Exposure Compensation : 0
AE Exposure Time : 1/157
AE Aperture : 4.2
AE ISO : 100
AE Xv : 0
AEB Xv : 0
AE Min Exposure Time : 1/3862
AE Program Mode : M, P or TAv
AE Aperture Steps : 19
AE Max Aperture : 2.0
AE Max Aperture 2 : 2.0
AE Min Aperture : 23
AE Metering Mode : Multi-segment
Flash Exposure Comp. Setting : 0
Lens Type : smc PENTAX-FA 35mm F2 AL
Auto Aperture : On
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Lens F Stops : 7
Focal Length : 35.0 mm
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Nominal Min Aperture : 23
Max Aperture : 2.0
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Internal Flash Mode : Did not fire, Normal
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TTL DA A Up : 0
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TTL DA B Down : 0
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External Flash Exposure Comp : n/a
External Flash Bounce : n/a
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0.0 11.0 10.3 10.6 9.9 10.3 10.5
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WB RGGB Levels Fluorescent N : 14528 8192 8192 10076
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Manufacture Date : 2006:12:23
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Internal Serial Number : 5177528
Power Source : Body Battery
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ract)
Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 1.5
Shutter Speed : 1/180
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act)
Circle Of Confusion : 0.020 mm
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Hyperfocal Distance : 15.14 m
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QuoteOriginally posted by UncleVanya Quote
Was the middle shot created as a JPG in camera at the time of the shot or was it developed in camera from a RAW file?
Sorry I missed your question earlier. It was developed in-camera from the PEF.

QuoteOriginally posted by UncleVanya Quote
Astonishing how much the Kodachrome and the JPG look more similar than the RAW file from LR.
Yes, it is. The original slide strongly resembles the in-camera development (bright setting), though the scan did not. It took a lot of effort in PP to massage the scan to a presentable state. Though to be fair, the process was much less involved than it would have been making a wet print from the slide or an interneg.


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me too; was looking for RAW development in LR that can provide decent default JPEG but never find it. I use Silkypix (paid version) now and like it much better and easier than LR.

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Ok...I reneged on the offer of the RAW, but I did revisit the original PEF and gave it a fresh try using LR 5.6 and the 2012 process rather than the 2003 process used before. Here is the side-by-side comparison (screen capture) with the in-camera JPEG on the left: I think I was able to do a much better job with the current version of ACR, though the in-camera still did better with the low values. The history steps to produce the image on the right: And, for those who are interested, the EXIF from the in-camera JPEG:
very interesting ^^ thanks a lot, they look kinda similar now ^^
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