Originally posted by biz-engineer Well, pixel shift require the same (limited) conditions as panorama stitching. There are gigapixels panorama out there:
In2White . Nobody need a demonstration to prove that the gigapixels images have more resolution than any camera whatever format it is. K-3II pixel shift may provide a tiny bit more sharpness and less noise compared to a single 24Mp FF shot , but the usage conditions are so restrictive that full frame is still the way to go. That being said, Ricoh needs to achieve some sales, especially since the Pentax full frame was delayed, and for some Pentaxians, the K3-II may be an option to play around with pixel shift before upgrading to a full frame camera.
Have you shot Pixel Shift images? Panorama stitching is a MUCH MORE cumbersome shooting regime at the point of creation and adds tremendously to the limitations of capture. Pixel shift on the other hand is not much more limiting than taking a time exposure. I can tell you right now, Full Frame is definitely NOT "still the way to go." Believe that if you want, but my commercial work right now is done with APS-c as a choice over Full Frame. (Pending Pentax's FF release TBD, but no promises things have to be a big improvement over what I'm getting now. Size weight and cost are considerations.)
AND, "a tiny bit more sharpness?" Try about double the megapixels sharpness. Or to put it another way, K3II Pixel Shift images are about the equal of D810 shots. That's not a "tiny bit." (And I have shot both and know both and know what to expect from both.)
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Originally posted by biz-engineer I dislike looking at one feature of the camera and making conclusions by ignoring everything else. Since I'm not paid by Ricoh or whoever is in the camera business, I have no interest not to state the obvious. Perhaps dpreview is a better community for me, more open to any brand of camera. What I really dislike on PF is members who defends things to death and then sell their Pentax camera and buy a Nikon or Canon... does it make sense ?
You seem to also dislike people that shot the D810, Shot the 5DM3, 6D and then CHOSE the Pentax over those to best accomplish their photographic goals. What have you shot, what experience do you have so that we may qualify your generalizations re: full frame uber alles...
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Originally posted by rullrich Well, it's a forum called PentaxForums so I don't thinks it's wrong concentrate on that said brand. But still I find people quite openminded. Did you realize that the comparison was done by a pro with 30 years of experience? Was this comparison made to distract people from FF? Not, it wasn't, it was to show people what's possible with a specific camera from a specific brand. But what people do first is to critize the methodolgy of the comparison itself and second cry for FF, as if it was the holy grail for everything. So don't tell me you mean this by "open". And by the way: nobody in this thread defends something to death, but if someone feels that arguments are only arguments and nothing else, than please provide some evidence, and please do it as a photographer, so that dummy amateurs like can follow your experience.
Yea, I'd also add to that that these 16x48's are over $100.00 each. You best KNOW I sent THE BEST IMAGE my professional FINE ART photographic experience could produce to the lab for both the 6D and K3II. I concede it's still a one off. That's why I said that I will know soon enough if the K3II is up to it and follow up on this. It's going to cost me about $1000 bucks to print what I need to print in the next few months and if the K3II isn't delivering the goods, I will find out and let you all know. But the take away here is: I'm ready to move forward based upon these preliminary results...
SO, I'm betting $1000 the K3II is capable.
I'd say that's putting your money where your mouth is. Anyone want to pay me $1000 bucks that it is capable? I'll pay you $1000 if it can't do the job. I thought so...
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Originally posted by biz-engineer For $600, I don't buy your print, I buy a K-3II instead.
Fine, I look forward to seeing your work!
I will post a schedule of Art Shows I'll be at in 2016, and maybe I'll see you at one.