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11-02-2015, 01:18 AM   #1
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AF micro adjustment.

I have always been afraid of try this. And because of the obvious warnings I have stayed away.
But one always has to grow and learn right?
Since i have a second camera body I decided to check the AF micro adjustment on my new K-3 camera.
This way I have a backup, my K-30 if I screw it up.
One thing though is that there are so many threads with different opinions on how to do this.
I did find one article that suggested two ways of doing this. But unfortunately I dont have accessing to the calibrating equipment that were mentioned.

I did how ever find this on youtube and I thought i had try it out on my K-3.


PS I didnt do any adjustment at this stage. Just tested.

My concerns

1. Can this work for Pentax?
2. When I tested this procedure on my K-3 and Tamron 28-75 f2.8 combo, It was back focusing really badly at the wide end (28mm). 50mm and 75mm were sharp. How does one correct the wide end with a pentax? As you can see in this video you can adjust at wide and a tele end for a canon.


Also it will really be nice to have a video for AF microfadjustment for Pentax on our Youtube channel. Adam?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Culture Quote
2. When I tested this procedure on my K-3 and Tamron 28-75 f2.8 combo, It was back focusing really badly at the wide end (28mm). 50mm and 75mm were sharp. How does one correct the wide end with a pentax? As you can see in this video you can adjust at wide and a tele end for a canon.
You can't. There's only one setting for each lens on Pentax cameras, so it can be a balancing act for zooms.

If you do decide to make fine adjustments to the AF, I strongly recommend having a reliable test target. Also, unless you're experiencing consistently inaccurate autofocus with a certain lens, I wouldn't bother making any adjustments at all (if it ain't broke, don't fix it ).

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QuoteOriginally posted by Culture Quote
I have always been afraid of try this. And because of the obvious warnings I have stayed away.
But one always has to grow and learn right?
Since i have a second camera body I decided to check the AF micro adjustment on my new K-3 camera.
This way I have a backup, my K-30 if I screw it up.
One thing though is that there are so many threads with different opinions on how to do this.
I did find one article that suggested two ways of doing this. But unfortunately I dont have accessing to the calibrating equipment that were mentioned.

I did how ever find this on youtube and I thought i had try it out on my K-3.

How to perform AF Microadjustment - YouTube

PS I didnt do any adjustment at this stage. Just tested.

My concerns

1. Can this work for Pentax?
2. When I tested this procedure on my K-3 and Tamron 28-75 f2.8 combo, It was back focusing really badly at the wide end (28mm). 50mm and 75mm were sharp. How does one correct the wide end with a pentax? As you can see in this video you can adjust at wide and a tele end for a canon.


Also it will really be nice to have a video for AF microfadjustment for Pentax on our Youtube channel. Adam?

My 17-50 Tamron focused differently depending on the choosen focal length AND aperture. I had to send it to the repair shop so they could adjust it at the different focal lengths. I think they had three possible settings in the lens fimware.

This video may make it easier to do the fine tuning. Depending on the focal length you should use different distances when adjusting.

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AF fine adjustment is not something to be scared of, as it's only a software parameter that's being changed (which in turn controls hardware) and can easily be reset.

AF adjustment of zooms is tricky, however, insofar as you can't make multiple adjustments to suit various conditions throughout the zoom range, so you have to decide (a) whether to check at short/medium/long focal lengths and average the results, or (b) identify and adjust at the focal length you use most frequently. Either way it's a compromise, but hopefully if you shoot at, say, f8, dof will help.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Tjompen1968 Quote
[...] This ["Dot-Tune"] video may make it easier to do the fine tuning. [...]

DotTune: Autofocus fine tuning in under 5 minutes - YouTube
Interesting. Has anyone tried this on a Pentax DSLR yet (one, of course, equipped with AF Fine Adjustment) ?
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Interesting. Has anyone tried this on a Pentax DSLR yet (one, of course, equipped with AF Fine Adjustment) ?
Yes, you can use Dot Tune on Pentax dSLRs and it works pretty much as advertised, though I would caution that care should be taken to make sure that the reference focus in live view be made with the lens fully open. This is easy enough for lenses having aperture rings, but can be a problem for lenses that don't. Depending on light, the camera may partially stop the lens down in live view.


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Yes, you can use Dot Tune on Pentax dSLRs and it works pretty much as advertised, though I would caution that care should be taken to make sure that the reference focus in live view be made with the lens fully open. This is easy enough for lenses having aperture rings, but can be a problem for lenses that don't. Depending on light, the camera may partially stop the lens down in live view.
Thanks for that tip.Steve. [Although, in my particular case, the DA 55-300/4-5.8 is my only "ringless" lens (not counting a couple of fixed-aperture mirror lenses).]
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What a great link, thanks! Anyone have any tips on how to get your camera parallel to the target?

Thanks

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Thanks for that tip.Steve. [Although, in my particular case, the DA 55-300/4-5.8 is my only "ringless" lens (not counting a couple of fixed-aperture mirror lenses).]
Use the DOF preview when setting the focus. It should open up when you do this. (If you have f-stop set to it's lowest ofcourse...)
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What a great link, thanks! Anyone have any tips on how to get your camera parallel to the target?

Thanks

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I use a flat target and measure from each side of the target to the surface of the rear LCD. Some users place a carpenter's tri-square (held by a helpful assistant) aligned with the center of the target. Level the camera and sight down the edge of the square to true up.


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Thanks for all advice. The DotTune definitely looks detailed.
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I use live view to test my lenses to see if they need focus adjustment. It is pretty simple and I have been pleased with it: AF microadjustment for the 1Ds mark III, 1D Mk3, 5D Mk2, 7D, 1D X.

If you have a zoom that focuses differently at different focal lengths the only thing to do is to send it in to the manufacturer. Sigma does have a dock now for their newest lenses that can adjust at a few different focal lengths, but there isn't anything similar for Tamron.
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Hey Guys,

Is this possible to adjust AF on wide/tele too on K1? If not, why not? I don't think it would be such a big work to implement into cameras, especially for K1.
I have a Tamron 70-200 on my K3II and i just tested AF on each end and it would work perfectly with this option.
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QuoteOriginally posted by fwcetus Quote
Interesting. Has anyone tried this on a Pentax DSLR yet (one, of course, equipped with AF Fine Adjustment) ?
I tried Dot Tune a couple of years ago with my K-3 and never could get it right, others might have better success. I finally settled on a Lens Align MkII and also the Focus Tune Software. I also tried Spyder Lens Cal with so so results, you need plenty of light with either of these methods. Lens Align is easier to align with the target than Spyder Lens Cal. Make sure your AF module lens is clean and also the AF sub mirror as these can cause very inconsistent results. Also pay particular attention to the manual and which direction you turn the E-Dial to move the focus closer or further away, if I recall correctly its different than how the Canon system works.

As for zooms they are a compromise so as others have said tune for the most used focal length.

If anyone needs a Spyder Lens Cal system I have one free that I would be happy to send anywhere within the U.S. Just PM me.


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Hi Larry,

I'm not really talking about the the testing method, because after a few hours spent on practising and watching youtube videos i'm pretty precisly can calibrate the AF myself. The only thing that my Tamron 70-200 needs -7 on 70mm and +3 on 200mm. So withouth this option available AF adjustment is useless on this lense. This function would be extremely useful at least in the K-1.
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