Annoying K-3ii issue - do you have it?

Johnontheroad · 03-19-2016, 05:25 AM

Overall, I like my K-3ii very much. But it has one "habit" that irritates me and in thinking about it I wonder if it is common to this model camera?

An example: I am in TAv mode. I take a picture at 1/500 and f5.6. For the next image, I want a slower speed so I turn the thumb wheel but there is no response in the viewfinder indicator. In other words, the f stop stays at f5.6 -- until I half press the shutter. After that, I can change the f-stop with the thumb wheel. Same issue for using the front wheel to change speed... I have to press the shutter half way before I can change any of the shooting parameters.

This irritates because there are many times I want to take the same picture at different exposures and by having to depress the shutter half way it slows me down a lot.

Thanks for your input!

John
K-3ii, 18-135mm, 55-300mm, 15m Ltd, 31mm Ltd, Sigma 105mm Macro

Nass · 03-19-2016, 05:36 AM

I think it's something on your body, either some weird setting I'm not familiar with or the body needs to go to the doctor. I've just tested using your exact parameters and as soon as I move the thumb wheel the f/stop changes. I don't need to half press the shutter

**jatrax** · 03-19-2016, 05:39 AM - **1 Like**

Turn off the review function or reduce the time out. The camera will not respond until the image review times out.

**microlight** · 03-19-2016, 06:28 AM

My K-3II reacts the same way as it does for Nass...

**jpzk** · 03-19-2016, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by jatrax

Turn off the review function or reduce the time out. The camera will not respond until the image review times out.

Same here with the K3 (not the K3II), so reduce timeout you say ?
JP

fehknt · 03-19-2016, 09:43 AM

I was frustrated by this as well until I realized that turning the dials _does_ change the settings even when the back monitor is not responding due to image review being on, at least in my limited testing a couple days ago when I noticed it in long burst shots. The top LCD and viewfinder show the changes and you can still get shots off while the screen is off for processing.

That said I'll still probably turn off image review by default in the near future because it takes so long.

Unregistered User · 03-19-2016, 11:11 AM

Same on the K-3, it is the preview that is the culprit.

Johnontheroad · 03-19-2016, 12:09 PM

Now that makes sense... while you're chimping, the display is frozen. When I half press the shutter it turns the review off, so it works as usual. Duhhh.....

Thanks for the quick feedback from everyone.

John

**jatrax** · 03-19-2016, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

Same here with the K3 (not the K3II), so reduce timeout you say ?
JP

reducing the time the image is displayed on the rear screen does not 'fix' the issue but at a faster time out it is not as noticeable. Turn image review off to completely solve this.

Adam · 03-19-2016, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Johnontheroad

Overall, I like my K-3ii very much. But it has one "habit" that irritates me and in thinking about it I wonder if it is common to this model camera?

An example: I am in TAv mode. I take a picture at 1/500 and f5.6. For the next image, I want a slower speed so I turn the thumb wheel but there is no response in the viewfinder indicator. In other words, the f stop stays at f5.6 -- until I half press the shutter. After that, I can change the f-stop with the thumb wheel. Same issue for using the front wheel to change speed... I have to press the shutter half way before I can change any of the shooting parameters.

This irritates because there are many times I want to take the same picture at different exposures and by having to depress the shutter half way it slows me down a lot.

Thanks for your input!

John
K-3ii, 18-135mm, 55-300mm, 15m Ltd, 31mm Ltd, Sigma 105mm Macro

To reiterate what others have said, instant review is the problem, since when instant review is up the rear e-dial controls the playback zoom.

Apart from getting in the habit of half-pressing right away, other solutions including swapping the mapping of Tv and Av on the e-dials, or disabling/shortening instant review.

03-19-2016, 05:25 AM	#1
Johnontheroad Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 63	Annoying K-3ii issue - do you have it? Overall, I like my K-3ii very much. But it has one "habit" that irritates me and in thinking about it I wonder if it is common to this model camera? An example: I am in TAv mode. I take a picture at 1/500 and f5.6. For the next image, I want a slower speed so I turn the thumb wheel but there is no response in the viewfinder indicator. In other words, the f stop stays at f5.6 -- until I half press the shutter. After that, I can change the f-stop with the thumb wheel. Same issue for using the front wheel to change speed... I have to press the shutter half way before I can change any of the shooting parameters. This irritates because there are many times I want to take the same picture at different exposures and by having to depress the shutter half way it slows me down a lot. Thanks for your input! John K-3ii, 18-135mm, 55-300mm, 15m Ltd, 31mm Ltd, Sigma 105mm Macro

03-19-2016, 01:43 PM	#10
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,597	Originally posted by Johnontheroad Overall, I like my K-3ii very much. But it has one "habit" that irritates me and in thinking about it I wonder if it is common to this model camera? An example: I am in TAv mode. I take a picture at 1/500 and f5.6. For the next image, I want a slower speed so I turn the thumb wheel but there is no response in the viewfinder indicator. In other words, the f stop stays at f5.6 -- until I half press the shutter. After that, I can change the f-stop with the thumb wheel. Same issue for using the front wheel to change speed... I have to press the shutter half way before I can change any of the shooting parameters. This irritates because there are many times I want to take the same picture at different exposures and by having to depress the shutter half way it slows me down a lot. Thanks for your input! John K-3ii, 18-135mm, 55-300mm, 15m Ltd, 31mm Ltd, Sigma 105mm Macro To reiterate what others have said, instant review is the problem, since when instant review is up the rear e-dial controls the playback zoom. Apart from getting in the habit of half-pressing right away, other solutions including swapping the mapping of Tv and Av on the e-dials, or disabling/shortening instant review. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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03-19-2016, 05:36 AM	#2
Nass Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The British Isles Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,402	I think it's something on your body, either some weird setting I'm not familiar with or the body needs to go to the doctor. I've just tested using your exact parameters and as soon as I move the thumb wheel the f/stop changes. I don't need to half press the shutter

03-19-2016, 05:39 AM - 1 Like	#3
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Turn off the review function or reduce the time out. The camera will not respond until the image review times out.

03-19-2016, 06:28 AM	#4
microlight Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,129	My K-3II reacts the same way as it does for Nass...

03-19-2016, 08:51 AM	#5
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by jatrax Turn off the review function or reduce the time out. The camera will not respond until the image review times out. Same here with the K3 (not the K3II), so reduce timeout you say ? JP

03-19-2016, 09:43 AM	#6
fehknt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 142	I was frustrated by this as well until I realized that turning the dials _does_ change the settings even when the back monitor is not responding due to image review being on, at least in my limited testing a couple days ago when I noticed it in long burst shots. The top LCD and viewfinder show the changes and you can still get shots off while the screen is off for processing. That said I'll still probably turn off image review by default in the near future because it takes so long.

03-19-2016, 11:11 AM	#7
Unregistered User Guest	Same on the K-3, it is the preview that is the culprit.

03-19-2016, 12:09 PM	#8
Johnontheroad Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 63 Original Poster	Now that makes sense... while you're chimping, the display is frozen. When I half press the shutter it turns the review off, so it works as usual. Duhhh..... Thanks for the quick feedback from everyone. John

03-19-2016, 12:11 PM	#9
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by jpzk Same here with the K3 (not the K3II), so reduce timeout you say ? JP reducing the time the image is displayed on the rear screen does not 'fix' the issue but at a faster time out it is not as noticeable. Turn image review off to completely solve this.