K-3II Profile in lightroom

retsoor · 04-17-2017, 02:15 PM

Can anyone explain:- I have a K-3II and Lightroom 4. I only shoot in Raw (DNG) and in the Develop module - Camera Calibration tab the Process : is 2012 (current). When I look at Profile : the only option is Embedded. I don't have the option of Adobe Standard or ACR 4.4 as I had with my old camera (Samsung GX10).
Thanks-Kevin

**lsimpkins** · 04-17-2017, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by retsoor

Can anyone explain:- I have a K-3II and Lightroom 4. I only shoot in Raw (DNG) and in the Develop module - Camera Calibration tab the Process : is 2012 (current). When I look at Profile : the only option is Embedded. I don't have the option of Adobe Standard or ACR 4.4 as I had with my old camera (Samsung GX10).
Thanks-Kevin

For my K-3 I have just Adobe Standard or Embedded. Just my opinion here, but due to lower sales volume than in the Canikon world, Adobe does not spend much time developing profiles for Pentax cameras. However, I understand that for the K-1 LR 6 does have choices that replicate camera settings.

retsoor · 04-18-2017, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by lsimpkins

For my K-3 I have just Adobe Standard or Embedded. Just my opinion here, but due to lower sales volume than in the Canikon world, Adobe does not spend much time developing profiles for Pentax cameras. However, I understand that for the K-1 LR 6 does have choices that replicate camera settings.

Thank you

**Rondec** · 04-18-2017, 11:21 AM

I think Adobe just stopped upgrading Lightroom 4 and 5 awhile ago. In Lightroom 6 there are settings for Natural, Bright, Portrait, landscape, and Vibrant for the K3 and K-1. I don't own a K3 II, but I imagine that they have similar color settings available for it.

If you aren't interested in updating, I think the Huelight files work well and are quite reasonable with regard to cost.

retsoor · 04-18-2017, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I think Adobe just stopped upgrading Lightroom 4 and 5 awhile ago. In Lightroom 6 there are settings for Natural, Bright, Portrait, landscape, and Vibrant for the K3 and K-1. I don't own a K3 II, but I imagine that they have similar color settings available for it.

If you aren't interested in updating, I think the Huelight files work well and are quite reasonable with regard to cost.

Thank you for your advice I might well upgrade to Lightroom 6 because of pixel shift

**Rondec** · 04-18-2017, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by retsoor

Thank you for your advice I might well upgrade to Lightroom 6 because of pixel shift

I wouldn't upgrade for pixel shift. The implementation in Lightroom currently is not optimal. It doesn't support motion correction and so if there are any areas of motion, you get really odd looking artifacts in water, tree branches, etc. Raw Therapee is a lot better, even than DCU.

Lightroom 6 does have newer lens profiles, can do HDR and panoramas and probably has a few other tweaks thrown in. I like it, but it doesn't do pixel shift very well in my opinion.

retsoor · 04-19-2017, 08:56 AM

That's interesting to know-thanks for the info

**lsimpkins** · 04-21-2017, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

In Lightroom 6 there are settings for Natural, Bright, Portrait, landscape, and Vibrant for the K3 and K-1.

Do you shoot pef or jpg, as I shoot only dng and do NOT have Natural, Bright, etc. settings available. I am using Adobe CC with all the latest updates.

**Rondec** · 04-22-2017, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by lsimpkins

Do you shoot pef or jpg, as I shoot only dng and do NOT have Natural, Bright, etc. settings available. I am using Adobe CC with all the latest updates.

I shoot DNG, but I think I told an untruth. Someone had posted dcp files that were adapted for the K3 from K3 II files. I'm not sure where they got them from. They were posted here: Converted Lightroom K-3 II Profiles - PentaxForums.com. Seem to be pretty decent to me.

**Oakland Rob** · 04-23-2017, 11:06 AM

I have a K-3ii and I have the vivid, portrait etc profiles available in Lr CC. AFAIK they came from Adobe; I don't see separate DCP files in with the others I've created (I use an Xrite Passport to make my own). I do use DNGs as well.

dr_Fell · 06-06-2017, 04:28 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I think Adobe just stopped upgrading Lightroom 4 and 5 awhile ago. In Lightroom 6 there are settings for Natural, Bright, Portrait, landscape, and Vibrant for the K3 and K-1. I don't own a K3 II, but I imagine that they have similar color settings available for it.

If you aren't interested in updating, I think the Huelight files work well and are quite reasonable with regard to cost.

Is that true, that LR has K-3 profiles other than standard? I have newest LR (CC) and I don't have settings other than Adobe Standard for my K-3.

**Rondec** · 06-06-2017, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by dr_Fell

Is that true, that LR has K-3 profiles other than standard? I have newest LR (CC) and I don't have settings other than Adobe Standard for my K-3.

See my follow up comment. Someone converted K3 II profiles. I have a link in my post two spots up.

dr_Fell · 06-06-2017, 05:22 AM

Ah, ok, thank You. I have those profiles and I use them but I have problems with reds and those profiles (orange to red shift and oversaturation). I hoped there are new and better now, with LR update.

I have just found DNG profile editor and I am trying to fix that a bit.

Ian Stuart Forsyth · 06-10-2017, 11:58 PM

I had done some profiling for a friend with a K3II

http://isfphotography.com/PENTAXK-3IIbeta2.dcp

http://isfphotography.com/PENTAXK3II_Ian.dcp

Oddly both of his K3II needed 2 different profiles for them to produce the same results. The K3II_Ian was for the K3II that rendered reds that looked oversaturated and was a early purchased model while the beta was for the K3II that was purchased not too long ago.
I would try them both and see which one you like best

dr_Fell · 06-12-2017, 07:45 AM

Thank You! I am sorry, I forgot to mention that I have K-3 and not K-3 II. I thought that K-3 II profiles will be usable with K-3 (there are some K-3 II profiles that are modified a bit for K-3 on the forum). Unfortunately with unmodified K-3 II profiles used with K-3 reds are oversaturated even more - probably my modified profiles work best at the moment.

04-17-2017, 02:15 PM	#1
retsoor Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Essex UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	K-3II Profile in lightroom Can anyone explain:- I have a K-3II and Lightroom 4. I only shoot in Raw (DNG) and in the Develop module - Camera Calibration tab the Process : is 2012 (current). When I look at Profile : the only option is Embedded. I don't have the option of Adobe Standard or ACR 4.4 as I had with my old camera (Samsung GX10). Thanks-Kevin

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04-17-2017, 05:39 PM	#2
lsimpkins Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SE Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 537	Originally posted by retsoor Can anyone explain:- I have a K-3II and Lightroom 4. I only shoot in Raw (DNG) and in the Develop module - Camera Calibration tab the Process : is 2012 (current). When I look at Profile : the only option is Embedded. I don't have the option of Adobe Standard or ACR 4.4 as I had with my old camera (Samsung GX10). Thanks-Kevin For my K-3 I have just Adobe Standard or Embedded. Just my opinion here, but due to lower sales volume than in the Canikon world, Adobe does not spend much time developing profiles for Pentax cameras. However, I understand that for the K-1 LR 6 does have choices that replicate camera settings.

04-18-2017, 10:07 AM	#3
retsoor Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Essex UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 429 Original Poster	Originally posted by lsimpkins For my K-3 I have just Adobe Standard or Embedded. Just my opinion here, but due to lower sales volume than in the Canikon world, Adobe does not spend much time developing profiles for Pentax cameras. However, I understand that for the K-1 LR 6 does have choices that replicate camera settings. Thank you

04-18-2017, 11:21 AM	#4
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	I think Adobe just stopped upgrading Lightroom 4 and 5 awhile ago. In Lightroom 6 there are settings for Natural, Bright, Portrait, landscape, and Vibrant for the K3 and K-1. I don't own a K3 II, but I imagine that they have similar color settings available for it. If you aren't interested in updating, I think the Huelight files work well and are quite reasonable with regard to cost.

04-18-2017, 11:51 AM	#5
retsoor Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Essex UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 429 Original Poster	Originally posted by Rondec I think Adobe just stopped upgrading Lightroom 4 and 5 awhile ago. In Lightroom 6 there are settings for Natural, Bright, Portrait, landscape, and Vibrant for the K3 and K-1. I don't own a K3 II, but I imagine that they have similar color settings available for it. If you aren't interested in updating, I think the Huelight files work well and are quite reasonable with regard to cost. Thank you for your advice I might well upgrade to Lightroom 6 because of pixel shift

04-18-2017, 01:14 PM	#6
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by retsoor Thank you for your advice I might well upgrade to Lightroom 6 because of pixel shift I wouldn't upgrade for pixel shift. The implementation in Lightroom currently is not optimal. It doesn't support motion correction and so if there are any areas of motion, you get really odd looking artifacts in water, tree branches, etc. Raw Therapee is a lot better, even than DCU. Lightroom 6 does have newer lens profiles, can do HDR and panoramas and probably has a few other tweaks thrown in. I like it, but it doesn't do pixel shift very well in my opinion.

04-19-2017, 08:56 AM	#7
retsoor Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Essex UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 429 Original Poster	That's interesting to know-thanks for the info

04-21-2017, 06:00 PM	#8
lsimpkins Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SE Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 537	Originally posted by Rondec In Lightroom 6 there are settings for Natural, Bright, Portrait, landscape, and Vibrant for the K3 and K-1. Do you shoot pef or jpg, as I shoot only dng and do NOT have Natural, Bright, etc. settings available. I am using Adobe CC with all the latest updates.

04-22-2017, 04:20 PM	#9
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by lsimpkins Do you shoot pef or jpg, as I shoot only dng and do NOT have Natural, Bright, etc. settings available. I am using Adobe CC with all the latest updates. I shoot DNG, but I think I told an untruth. Someone had posted dcp files that were adapted for the K3 from K3 II files. I'm not sure where they got them from. They were posted here: Converted Lightroom K-3 II Profiles - PentaxForums.com. Seem to be pretty decent to me.

04-23-2017, 11:06 AM	#10
Oakland Rob Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Bay Area California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 798	I have a K-3ii and I have the vivid, portrait etc profiles available in Lr CC. AFAIK they came from Adobe; I don't see separate DCP files in with the others I've created (I use an Xrite Passport to make my own). I do use DNGs as well.

06-06-2017, 04:28 AM	#11
dr_Fell Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 40	Originally posted by Rondec I think Adobe just stopped upgrading Lightroom 4 and 5 awhile ago. In Lightroom 6 there are settings for Natural, Bright, Portrait, landscape, and Vibrant for the K3 and K-1. I don't own a K3 II, but I imagine that they have similar color settings available for it. If you aren't interested in updating, I think the Huelight files work well and are quite reasonable with regard to cost. Is that true, that LR has K-3 profiles other than standard? I have newest LR (CC) and I don't have settings other than Adobe Standard for my K-3.

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06-06-2017, 05:00 AM	#12
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by dr_Fell Is that true, that LR has K-3 profiles other than standard? I have newest LR (CC) and I don't have settings other than Adobe Standard for my K-3. See my follow up comment. Someone converted K3 II profiles. I have a link in my post two spots up.

06-06-2017, 05:22 AM	#13
dr_Fell Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 40	Ah, ok, thank You. I have those profiles and I use them but I have problems with reds and those profiles (orange to red shift and oversaturation). I hoped there are new and better now, with LR update. I have just found DNG profile editor and I am trying to fix that a bit.

06-10-2017, 11:58 PM	#14
Ian Stuart Forsyth Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,531	I had done some profiling for a friend with a K3II http://isfphotography.com/PENTAXK-3IIbeta2.dcp http://isfphotography.com/PENTAXK3II_Ian.dcp Oddly both of his K3II needed 2 different profiles for them to produce the same results. The K3II_Ian was for the K3II that rendered reds that looked oversaturated and was a early purchased model while the beta was for the K3II that was purchased not too long ago. I would try them both and see which one you like best

06-12-2017, 07:45 AM	#15
dr_Fell Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 40	Thank You! I am sorry, I forgot to mention that I have K-3 and not K-3 II. I thought that K-3 II profiles will be usable with K-3 (there are some K-3 II profiles that are modified a bit for K-3 on the forum). Unfortunately with unmodified K-3 II profiles used with K-3 reds are oversaturated even more - probably my modified profiles work best at the moment.