Why I will buy a K-3 III

normhead · 01-14-2019, 08:41 AM

The thing that concerns me with the K-P is the lack of buffer. With small birds , they are there and then they aren. You have to capture a lot fo images in a very short time. I frequently fill the K-3's 23 shot buffer. The K-1 drives me crazy.

**Larrymc** · 01-14-2019, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Neither does Juanita...

Right up there with the first line of the "Star Spangled Banner... "Jose can you see?"

Depends on whether Jose is standing behind a tall person.

**Ash** · 01-14-2019, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by normhead

The thing that concerns me with the K-P is the lack of buffer. With small birds , they are there and then they aren. You have to capture a lot fo images in a very short time. I frequently fill the K-3's 23 shot buffer. The K-1 drives me crazy.

The workaround is to shoot in JPEG. The buffer grows to a more sizable figure for continuous shooting.

**CharLac** · 01-14-2019, 01:11 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Larrymc

Kindly put a wink or a smilie of some kind at the end of the sentence. Juan never knows

I find sarcasm more effective without emotes, smilies or other graphic indicators

**CharLac** · 01-14-2019, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Ash

The workaround is to shoot in JPEG. The buffer grows to a more sizable figure for continuous shooting.

Not be be nasty, but to me that is more of a concession than a work-around. I would never want to compromise and work in JPEG...but that is just me.

reh321 · 01-14-2019, 02:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

The thing that concerns me with the K-P is the lack of buffer. With small birds , they are there and then they aren't. You have to capture a lot for images in a very short time. I frequently fill the K-3's 23 shot buffer. The K-1 drives me crazy.

You are correct in your concern.
I've not yet successfully 'caught' small bif with my KP.

**Larrymc** · 01-14-2019, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by CharLac

I find sarcasm more effective without emotes, smilies or other graphic indicators

Sometimes It gets really difficult to differentiate one from the other without a facial expression and voice inflection.

**Larrymc** · 01-14-2019, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by reh321

You are correct in your concern.
I've not yet successfully 'caught' small bif with my KP.

I find it works best with my K-3 to catch them coming in for a landing or taking off. Then squeeze off a buffer filler.

reh321 · 01-14-2019, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

I find it works best with my K-3 to catch them coming in for a landing or taking off. Then squeeze off a buffer filler.

The issue with the KP is that it doesn't take as much to fill its buffer ...... so I have to be more conservative with my "squeezing" {and am more likely to miss the right moment, since small birds aren't very predictable as to when they'll take off or from where they will come to land - I guess I need to study them more}

**Ash** · 01-14-2019, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by CharLac

Not be be nasty, but to me that is more of a concession than a work-around. I would never want to compromise and work in JPEG...but that is just me.

All good. But when you can't have everything, you either compromise on continuous shooting rate or on the file type to meet your shooting demands.

normhead · 01-15-2019, 07:16 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Ash

The workaround is to shoot in JPEG. The buffer grows to a more sizable figure for continuous shooting.

I tried that out yesterday. For every day shots it saves a lot of time. For images like this, just a document of my daily walk I think I'm going to make jpeg the daily norm. Seriously, no one commented "I can tell you didn't use RAW on that image.

For images that may be prints some day, I'll stick with raw.

**CharLac** · 01-15-2019, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Ash

All good. But when you can't have everything, you either compromise on continuous shooting rate or on the file type to meet your shooting demands.

I guess my point is that I'll stick with my K-3ii for now

**Ash** · 01-15-2019, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by CharLac

I guess my point is that I'll stick with my K-3ii for now

Although shooting in crop mode on the K-1 gives you a similar frame rate, so there isn’t a significant difference there. If you want the FF coverage, you’ll have to decide on your priorities. If you want the frame rate and the coverage you’ll have to change systems.

**Ash** · 01-15-2019, 02:02 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

For images that may be prints some day, I'll stick with raw.

And I wager that the situations like these where you have a foreseeable print-worthy capture on hand, there won’t be a need for 10fps.

normhead · 01-15-2019, 02:55 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Ash

Although shooting in crop mode on the K-1 gives you a similar frame rate, so there isn’t a significant difference there. If you want the FF coverage, you’ll have to decide on your priorities. If you want the frame rate and the coverage you’ll have to change systems.

The only thing really worthy of this comment is the D850 which will give you 42 MP and 10 fps. Something like an A9 or 1Ds is going to give you 24 MP or less and you might as well shoot a K-3.

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01-14-2019, 08:41 AM	#76
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	The thing that concerns me with the K-P is the lack of buffer. With small birds , they are there and then they aren. You have to capture a lot fo images in a very short time. I frequently fill the K-3's 23 shot buffer. The K-1 drives me crazy.

01-14-2019, 08:50 AM	#77
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by normhead Neither does Juanita... Right up there with the first line of the "Star Spangled Banner... "Jose can you see?" Depends on whether Jose is standing behind a tall person.

01-14-2019, 12:22 PM	#78
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by normhead The thing that concerns me with the K-P is the lack of buffer. With small birds , they are there and then they aren. You have to capture a lot fo images in a very short time. I frequently fill the K-3's 23 shot buffer. The K-1 drives me crazy. The workaround is to shoot in JPEG. The buffer grows to a more sizable figure for continuous shooting.

01-14-2019, 01:11 PM - 1 Like	#79
CharLac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ottawa Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,419	Originally posted by Larrymc Kindly put a wink or a smilie of some kind at the end of the sentence. Juan never knows I find sarcasm more effective without emotes, smilies or other graphic indicators

01-14-2019, 01:26 PM	#80
CharLac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ottawa Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,419	Originally posted by Ash The workaround is to shoot in JPEG. The buffer grows to a more sizable figure for continuous shooting. Not be be nasty, but to me that is more of a concession than a work-around. I would never want to compromise and work in JPEG...but that is just me.

01-14-2019, 02:42 PM - 1 Like	#81
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by normhead The thing that concerns me with the K-P is the lack of buffer. With small birds , they are there and then they aren't. You have to capture a lot for images in a very short time. I frequently fill the K-3's 23 shot buffer. The K-1 drives me crazy. You are correct in your concern. I've not yet successfully 'caught' small bif with my KP.

01-14-2019, 06:52 PM	#82
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by CharLac I find sarcasm more effective without emotes, smilies or other graphic indicators Sometimes It gets really difficult to differentiate one from the other without a facial expression and voice inflection.

01-14-2019, 06:56 PM	#83
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by reh321 You are correct in your concern. I've not yet successfully 'caught' small bif with my KP. I find it works best with my K-3 to catch them coming in for a landing or taking off. Then squeeze off a buffer filler.

01-14-2019, 09:33 PM	#84
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by Larrymc I find it works best with my K-3 to catch them coming in for a landing or taking off. Then squeeze off a buffer filler. The issue with the KP is that it doesn't take as much to fill its buffer ...... so I have to be more conservative with my "squeezing" {and am more likely to miss the right moment, since small birds aren't very predictable as to when they'll take off or from where they will come to land - I guess I need to study them more}

01-14-2019, 09:52 PM	#85
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by CharLac Not be be nasty, but to me that is more of a concession than a work-around. I would never want to compromise and work in JPEG...but that is just me. All good. But when you can't have everything, you either compromise on continuous shooting rate or on the file type to meet your shooting demands.

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01-15-2019, 07:16 AM - 1 Like	#86
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Ash The workaround is to shoot in JPEG. The buffer grows to a more sizable figure for continuous shooting. I tried that out yesterday. For every day shots it saves a lot of time. For images like this, just a document of my daily walk I think I'm going to make jpeg the daily norm. Seriously, no one commented "I can tell you didn't use RAW on that image. For images that may be prints some day, I'll stick with raw.

01-15-2019, 09:07 AM	#87
CharLac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ottawa Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,419	Originally posted by Ash All good. But when you can't have everything, you either compromise on continuous shooting rate or on the file type to meet your shooting demands. I guess my point is that I'll stick with my K-3ii for now

01-15-2019, 01:59 PM	#88
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by CharLac I guess my point is that I'll stick with my K-3ii for now Although shooting in crop mode on the K-1 gives you a similar frame rate, so there isn’t a significant difference there. If you want the FF coverage, you’ll have to decide on your priorities. If you want the frame rate and the coverage you’ll have to change systems.

01-15-2019, 02:02 PM - 1 Like	#89
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by normhead For images that may be prints some day, I'll stick with raw. And I wager that the situations like these where you have a foreseeable print-worthy capture on hand, there won’t be a need for 10fps.

01-15-2019, 02:55 PM - 1 Like	#90
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Ash Although shooting in crop mode on the K-1 gives you a similar frame rate, so there isn’t a significant difference there. If you want the FF coverage, you’ll have to decide on your priorities. If you want the frame rate and the coverage you’ll have to change systems. The only thing really worthy of this comment is the D850 which will give you 42 MP and 10 fps. Something like an A9 or 1Ds is going to give you 24 MP or less and you might as well shoot a K-3.