Originally posted by monochrome Where was this? Was it perhaps overly close interpretation of the Park regulation?
Discovery Green park in downtown Houston.
Here's the story: this weekend was an anime convention at the convention center across the street from the park. About 30-40k people show up for this over the course of 3 days. If you're not familiar, these sorts of conventions are frequented by thousands of cosplayers. Photos are obviously very common. We have a whole network of hobbyists, cosplayers and photographers, who get together at events like this to shoot photos. Some people charge but most don't and when money does change hands, it is *very* menial (like $50 for an hour session to get 8 photos), far, far, far below what a pro session would cost.
This convention, along with three others like it (dedicated to comic books those ones are), happen at this site EVERY YEAR. This past con has been there for 10 years. So the park should know what this is all about.
Anyway, I was in the park shooting with a friend of mine in costume. It was early Friday (10:30 am or so), which is before most of the con goers arrive. Some other friends of mine were shooting with others there as well. There were five of us doing photos and about the same in costume. Security came up to us and told us we'd need to buy a permit. We were told it was $10. Went to the office to buy it and they told us it was $10
per hour. She knew about the con and exactly what was happening and decided to be "nice" and said we'd only be doing random shots throughout the day so instead of charging us $120 for the whole convention hours, she charged us $20.
On Saturday, there's about 500 people or so in the park from the con doing this exact thing. I didn't buy one for Saturday and had no issue. Security just told us to keep out of the flower beds. In fact, the five of us are the only ones who got shaken down for a permit.
This seems to be the definition of a shake down.
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Originally posted by r0ckstarr OMG, what a coincidence on this post! See content above.
I've shot multiple conventions there without issue. This year they were jerks about it all.
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Originally posted by vonBaloney Wouldn't you like to be able to use the park without photographers hogging the nice spots all day doing their paid business? That is what happens at popular spots, and as long as the restrictions are kept reasonable for those sort of activities, I'm all for it.
Wouldn't you like to sit in the park without people taking up all the tables for 5 hours for their picnics? Or be able to walk around without kids running into you? Or people who take up tons of park space to toss a football back and forth? And then when they throw badly might injure someone? You can make a list of any use of the park that would annoy some people.
The fact is that the fees don't any professionals away. The fee gets built into the shoot charge. What the fees do keep away are normal people, the ones who want to shoot their kids growing up or take some nice family portraits. It keeps out the artists who want to create stuff. The fee basically says "Family portraits that aren't taken with a cell phone are not permitted."
It's simply a way to make money, plain and simple. It doesn't put an end to commercial business, merely takes a cut of their profit. But as a side effect, ordinary people are discouraged from doing the same thing, simply because "SLR = OMG you mutz be TEH PRO" logic.