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**BigMackCam** · 08-21-2016, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxis

The colours in the images you posted are, in my opinion......lurid, unrealistic, lacking subtlety, frankly, horrible. Sorry again but sometimes one has to speak directly.

This just shows how different peoples' tastes can be. The only thing I'm not too keen on with the OP's images is the excessive saturation / luminance of green. A little tweak to calm the green down would work wonders, but other than that, I really like the look...

**gofour3** · 08-21-2016, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Velvia is punchy (much more so than contemporary Kodachromes

Kodak did have Ektachrome VS (Vivid Saturated) available in 100/200 ISO. It was the closest thing Kodak had to Velvia.

I did try E100VS on one trip and it had pretty "vivid" colours to say the least. The long archival capabilities of slide films like Kodachrome or E100G, were sacrificed in flavor of the vivid colours that E100VS achieved.

Phil.

stevebrot · 08-21-2016, 10:02 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

This just shows how different peoples' tastes can be. The only thing I'm not too keen on with the OP's images is the excessive saturation / luminance of green. A little tweak to calm the green down would work wonders, but other than that, I really like the look...

I too am not particularly bothered by the look, but the OP did ask for opinions on whether the Velvia emulation was accurate.

Steve

**BigMackCam** · 08-21-2016, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

I too am not particularly bothered by the look, but the OP did ask for opinions on whether the Velvia emulation was accurate.

Yup!

butangmucat · 08-22-2016, 09:03 AM - **2 Likes**

Just realized that the comments were divided because many of them came from the railfan community which expects realistic render of trains. So tried something different today, they seemed to liked it.

All finished using an Ektar emulation supplied by On1's Perfect Effects 9 which I bought during their sale and forgot. I do like how the filter makes subtle changes to the colors and the feel it renders.

Comments are welcome.

**BigMackCam** · 08-22-2016, 09:15 AM

These are definitely more realistic, but I still like your originals

**UncleVanya** · 08-22-2016, 09:45 AM

Much more in line with actual Velvia. I like these better by far.

**gaweidert** · 08-22-2016, 12:13 PM - **1 Like**

Fuji Velvia film was designed to have exaggerated colors. It was designed to pack a punch and had quite the WOW factor in it. It appeals are at the emotional level. If you go to the Grand Canyon and stand on the rim you say WOW! No photograph that accurately represents the colors you see will ever evoke the same emotional response. But the exaggerated colors of Velvia put some of the wow factor back in. It also benefits from the fact that human beings have very poor color memory. So what the film does is restore some of the emotion to the photograph with no regard for accurate scene color reproduction.

It is not a film for taking photographs of people. Certain skin tones look really bad on it. I always though it rather funny that Kodak spent decades developing films with "True colors" only to have Fuji come up with a very successful film with no regard for accurate color reproduction that blew them away. It's greatest asset was how well it punched out greens. Outdoor photographers went nuts over it. It forced Kodak to develop enhanced versions of Ektachrome to stay in the race.

stevebrot · 08-22-2016, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Much more in line with actual Velvia. I like these better by far.

...except that they were done with Ektar 100 emulation

Steve

K David · 08-22-2016, 05:46 PM

Here's a link to a playlist of my All About Film videos:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6MrZtHJOVgGLbm7E6W9sXxGCCbD7c4JR

This will update whenever I upload a new one. My next films are going to be Rollei Retro 80S and Kodak 400 Tri-X.

I definitely support trying Ektar. It's, I think, the best color film ever mad. I've shot Kodachrome. I like the way Ektar looks more.

**UncleVanya** · 08-22-2016, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

...except that they were done with Ektar 100 emulation

Steve

Still closer than the first try.

butangmucat · 08-23-2016, 11:44 AM

Tried Kodachrome emulation this time.

**BigMackCam** · 08-23-2016, 11:50 AM

Nice. More muted - but still colourful

Nicolas06 · 08-23-2016, 12:27 PM

In Dxo... Just tried a few profiles:
- default one
- velvia 50 without any other change
- ektachrome 100 VS without any other change
- A7 warm, based on A7 color rendering and tweaked to my taste
- VibrantColors based on Afga Precisa + contrast and saturation boost.
- Oceanic, based on FP100C
- Sensia Soft based on sensia...

Once you invest a bit of time on your prefered editor, you can tweak it to use the profile you like most and apply them as necessary.

08-23-2016, 12:27 PM	#44
Nicolas06 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4,854	In Dxo... Just tried a few profiles: - default one - velvia 50 without any other change - ektachrome 100 VS without any other change - A7 warm, based on A7 color rendering and tweaked to my taste - VibrantColors based on Afga Precisa + contrast and saturation boost. - Oceanic, based on FP100C - Sensia Soft based on sensia... Once you invest a bit of time on your prefered editor, you can tweak it to use the profile you like most and apply them as necessary. Last edited by Nicolas06; 01-31-2017 at 02:03 PM.

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08-21-2016, 08:50 AM	#31
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,702	Originally posted by Pentaxis The colours in the images you posted are, in my opinion......lurid, unrealistic, lacking subtlety, frankly, horrible. Sorry again but sometimes one has to speak directly. This just shows how different peoples' tastes can be. The only thing I'm not too keen on with the OP's images is the excessive saturation / luminance of green. A little tweak to calm the green down would work wonders, but other than that, I really like the look...

08-21-2016, 09:13 AM	#32
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,093	Originally posted by stevebrot Velvia is punchy (much more so than contemporary Kodachromes Kodak did have Ektachrome VS (Vivid Saturated) available in 100/200 ISO. It was the closest thing Kodak had to Velvia. I did try E100VS on one trip and it had pretty "vivid" colours to say the least. The long archival capabilities of slide films like Kodachrome or E100G, were sacrificed in flavor of the vivid colours that E100VS achieved. Phil.

08-21-2016, 10:02 AM - 1 Like	#33
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by BigMackCam This just shows how different peoples' tastes can be. The only thing I'm not too keen on with the OP's images is the excessive saturation / luminance of green. A little tweak to calm the green down would work wonders, but other than that, I really like the look... I too am not particularly bothered by the look, but the OP did ask for opinions on whether the Velvia emulation was accurate. Steve

08-21-2016, 11:12 AM	#34
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,702	Originally posted by stevebrot I too am not particularly bothered by the look, but the OP did ask for opinions on whether the Velvia emulation was accurate. Yup!

08-22-2016, 09:03 AM - 2 Likes	#35
butangmucat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 709 Original Poster	Just realized that the comments were divided because many of them came from the railfan community which expects realistic render of trains. So tried something different today, they seemed to liked it. All finished using an Ektar emulation supplied by On1's Perfect Effects 9 which I bought during their sale and forgot. I do like how the filter makes subtle changes to the colors and the feel it renders. Comments are welcome.

08-22-2016, 09:15 AM	#36
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,702	These are definitely more realistic, but I still like your originals

08-22-2016, 09:45 AM	#37
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,464	Much more in line with actual Velvia. I like these better by far.

08-22-2016, 12:13 PM - 1 Like	#38
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,327	Fuji Velvia film was designed to have exaggerated colors. It was designed to pack a punch and had quite the WOW factor in it. It appeals are at the emotional level. If you go to the Grand Canyon and stand on the rim you say WOW! No photograph that accurately represents the colors you see will ever evoke the same emotional response. But the exaggerated colors of Velvia put some of the wow factor back in. It also benefits from the fact that human beings have very poor color memory. So what the film does is restore some of the emotion to the photograph with no regard for accurate scene color reproduction. It is not a film for taking photographs of people. Certain skin tones look really bad on it. I always though it rather funny that Kodak spent decades developing films with "True colors" only to have Fuji come up with a very successful film with no regard for accurate color reproduction that blew them away. It's greatest asset was how well it punched out greens. Outdoor photographers went nuts over it. It forced Kodak to develop enhanced versions of Ektachrome to stay in the race.

08-22-2016, 04:09 PM	#39
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by UncleVanya Much more in line with actual Velvia. I like these better by far. ...except that they were done with Ektar 100 emulation Steve

08-22-2016, 05:46 PM	#40
K David Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Colorado Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,437	Here's a link to a playlist of my All About Film videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6MrZtHJOVgGLbm7E6W9sXxGCCbD7c4JR This will update whenever I upload a new one. My next films are going to be Rollei Retro 80S and Kodak 400 Tri-X. I definitely support trying Ektar. It's, I think, the best color film ever mad. I've shot Kodachrome. I like the way Ektar looks more.

08-22-2016, 10:12 PM	#41
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,464	Originally posted by stevebrot ...except that they were done with Ektar 100 emulation Steve Still closer than the first try.

08-23-2016, 11:44 AM	#42
butangmucat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 709 Original Poster	Tried Kodachrome emulation this time.

08-23-2016, 11:50 AM	#43
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,702	Nice. More muted - but still colourful

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