Nikon Blogs Make Me Feel Like I'm In High School Again!

Fenwoodian · 09-23-2016, 04:43 PM

I currently shoot Nikon, Fuji X, and Pentax camera systems. Each has it's own purpose for me.

I'm certainly not a fanboy of any particular camera manufacturer.

On this forum (and on the Fuji forum) I can mention or even talk favorably about other manufacturers equipment without being put down.

However, on Nikon forums when I say something good about any other camera manufacturer I get flamed. The only other time I've experienced such gratuitous hatred was when I went to an NFL football game and cheered the wrong side.

Just recently on a Nikon blog I happened to say some favorable things about the K1 and K3ii's pixel shift mode. Gee, I got pounced on by a gang of their fanboy flag protectors, none of whom had any knowledge or experience with a pixel shift camera!

What the heck is it about Nikon owners in particular that make them so closed minded and protective? They can be so childish that it's almost like being in high school again.

Have you had similar experiences? Which brand do you think has the most fanatical fan base?

mee · 09-23-2016, 04:50 PM

I mentioned Nikon here and got attacked. It happens everywhere... fanboyism. This place can be a bit more reasonable though.. I think it is the older age group here.

And, unless you were rooting for Green Bay, you were rooting for the wrong team and should have been corrected. haha (I kid)

FantasticMrFox · 09-23-2016, 05:09 PM

Yeah, it does happen everywhere. Mention certain weaknesses of Pentax cameras here and there is a chance you may get flamed too

But overall I have found this forum to be a very civilised place, certainly less confrontational than another big multi-brand photography forum I am active on.

**NZ_Ross** · 09-23-2016, 05:21 PM

I have previously owned Nikon and Leica and have been involved in forums for both brands.

Like others I find Pentax Forum a mature and sensible place, although some fanboy behaviour does occur here also.

I think at times when the manufacturer is perceived to be weak in the marketplace the fanboy need to defend seems to increase. That might be the case for Nikon at the moment.

I would have to say Leica fans can be pretty fanatical in my observation, probable closely followed by the Sony crowd. These are of course generalisations

The Squirrel Mafia · 09-23-2016, 06:06 PM

That's how it is with just about everything. You have the Nintendo fanbois, Sega fanbois, Honda fanbois, Subaru fanbois, Burger King fanbois, McDonald's fanbois, Raiders fanbois, Broncos fanbois. You name it, you have it.

**cpk** · 09-23-2016, 06:15 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by NZ_Ross

I would have to say Leica fans can be pretty fanatical in my observation, probable closely followed by the Sony crowd. These are of course generalisations

See my blog entry: Leica vs Pentax |

I sold my Leicas years ago and am now using mostly Pentax.

**monochrome** · 09-23-2016, 06:19 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

That's how it is with just about everything. You have the Nintendo fanbois, Sega fanbois, Honda fanbois, Subaru fanbois, Burger King fanbois, McDonald's fanbois, Raiders fanbois, Broncos fanbois. You name it, you have it.

Yes, but Subarus are better so they're not fanbois.

**MJSfoto1956** · 09-23-2016, 06:21 PM

Mac vs. PC anyone? :P

M

**cpk** · 09-23-2016, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by MJSfoto1956

Mac vs. PC anyone?

Yeah! That's a good one. Let's change direction.

**jatrax** · 09-23-2016, 06:24 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

What the heck is it about Nikon owners in particular that make them so closed minded and protective?

I think Canon users are often as bad. The problem is not the real photographers but amateur wannabees. And I don't mean amateur as opposed to professional in the sense of earning a living, rather I mean people who go to best buy or the like and buy a camera because they saw that logo at a sports event. In other words they did no research, have no real knowledge of photography and just 'take pictures', but fiercely defend their brand choice as if the brand really meant anything concerning the final result.

I have been to seminars and outings with true 'professionals' meaning either I respect them as real photographers or they actually do make a living using a camera. And NEVER has any of those folks said a negative thing about Pentax. In general gear was much less a subject. Most of the conversations were about locations, light, lighting, technique and so on. Never about what brand we shot. If your work is good enough to run with the big dogs nobody cares what you shoot. And if all you worry about is what gear someone is using, well, most likely you are not running with the big dogs.

The reason we see less fanboy fanaticism with Pentax is that it is really hard to actually BUY a Pentax. You have to have done your research and really have some understanding of cameras and photography. So we have far less 'wannabees' than most other brands. I think that translates into more respect for the work and less concern for the logo.

Unregistered User 8 · 09-23-2016, 07:02 PM - **2 Likes**

Absolutely stunning images get taken by all the " brands," and very ordinary ones too.

Forget the EXIF data and appreciate the photograph IMO.

DeadJohn · 09-23-2016, 08:00 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by MJSfoto1956

Mac vs. PC anyone? :P

M

We aren't allowed to talk politics here

micromacro · 09-23-2016, 08:13 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

Just recently on a Nikon blog I happened to say some favorable things about the K1 and K3ii's pixel shift mode. Gee, I got pounced on by a gang of their fanboy flag protectors, none of whom had any knowledge or experience with a pixel shift camera!

Don't worry. I hang out with Nikon guys for occasional shooting. At first they wondered why, why???? Pentax?
Then they laughed at me when I said I have old glass LBA, and prefer Pentax. They actually had no idea that Pentax makes DSLRs

Then they saw my old helios and takumar, they stopped laughing, and asked where I get old glass from.

Then they saw my K-1, and well... I'm afraid one day I can convert them to Pentaxians.

**Bruce Clark** · 09-23-2016, 08:14 PM

+1 for Pentax Forums.

**NZ_Ross** · 09-23-2016, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by cpk

See my blog entry: Leica vs Pentax |

I sold my Leicas years ago and am now using mostly Pentax.

Interesting and informative blog post, thanks for sharing it.

Before moving to Pentax some years ago I had a Nikon D200 and a few Nikon lenses. Then I used a Leica Digilux 2 for a couple of years - lovely lens. As I looked for the next change I was looking for a smallish, preferably WR camera with a good range of lenses old and new that I could travel with.

I seriously considered 4/3, Micro 4/3 Leica M8 and M9, Ricoh GXR with Leica lenses, Fuji X-Pro1 and APS-C DSLR. I ended up with a Pentax K-5 and currently have a K-3. In the final analysis the perceived marginal gains that Leica M lenses would give me over Pentax lenses was for me not worth four times (or more) the cost.

Everyone has their own decision matrix and value proposition, but that was mine. I am still very happy with that set of decisions, and subsequent K mount lens purchases. It would be fair to say it isn't gear that is holding my photography back

09-23-2016, 04:43 PM	#1
Fenwoodian Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,875	Nikon Blogs Make Me Feel Like I'm In High School Again! I currently shoot Nikon, Fuji X, and Pentax camera systems. Each has it's own purpose for me. I'm certainly not a fanboy of any particular camera manufacturer. On this forum (and on the Fuji forum) I can mention or even talk favorably about other manufacturers equipment without being put down. However, on Nikon forums when I say something good about any other camera manufacturer I get flamed. The only other time I've experienced such gratuitous hatred was when I went to an NFL football game and cheered the wrong side. Just recently on a Nikon blog I happened to say some favorable things about the K1 and K3ii's pixel shift mode. Gee, I got pounced on by a gang of their fanboy flag protectors, none of whom had any knowledge or experience with a pixel shift camera! What the heck is it about Nikon owners in particular that make them so closed minded and protective? They can be so childish that it's almost like being in high school again. Have you had similar experiences? Which brand do you think has the most fanatical fan base?

09-23-2016, 06:15 PM - 1 Like	#6
cpk Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 640	Originally posted by NZ_Ross I would have to say Leica fans can be pretty fanatical in my observation, probable closely followed by the Sony crowd. These are of course generalisations See my blog entry: Leica vs Pentax \| I sold my Leicas years ago and am now using mostly Pentax. Last edited by cpk; 09-23-2016 at 06:21 PM.

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09-23-2016, 04:50 PM	#2
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	I mentioned Nikon here and got attacked. It happens everywhere... fanboyism. This place can be a bit more reasonable though.. I think it is the older age group here. And, unless you were rooting for Green Bay, you were rooting for the wrong team and should have been corrected. haha (I kid)

09-23-2016, 05:09 PM	#3
FantasticMrFox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Munich Posts: 2,339	Yeah, it does happen everywhere. Mention certain weaknesses of Pentax cameras here and there is a chance you may get flamed too But overall I have found this forum to be a very civilised place, certainly less confrontational than another big multi-brand photography forum I am active on.

09-23-2016, 05:21 PM	#4
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	I have previously owned Nikon and Leica and have been involved in forums for both brands. Like others I find Pentax Forum a mature and sensible place, although some fanboy behaviour does occur here also. I think at times when the manufacturer is perceived to be weak in the marketplace the fanboy need to defend seems to increase. That might be the case for Nikon at the moment. I would have to say Leica fans can be pretty fanatical in my observation, probable closely followed by the Sony crowd. These are of course generalisations

09-23-2016, 06:06 PM	#5
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,057	That's how it is with just about everything. You have the Nintendo fanbois, Sega fanbois, Honda fanbois, Subaru fanbois, Burger King fanbois, McDonald's fanbois, Raiders fanbois, Broncos fanbois. You name it, you have it.

09-23-2016, 06:19 PM - 1 Like	#7
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia That's how it is with just about everything. You have the Nintendo fanbois, Sega fanbois, Honda fanbois, Subaru fanbois, Burger King fanbois, McDonald's fanbois, Raiders fanbois, Broncos fanbois. You name it, you have it. Yes, but Subarus are better so they're not fanbois.

09-23-2016, 06:21 PM	#8
MJSfoto1956 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 1,305	Mac vs. PC anyone? :P M

09-23-2016, 06:23 PM	#9
cpk Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 640	Originally posted by MJSfoto1956 Mac vs. PC anyone? Yeah! That's a good one. Let's change direction.

09-23-2016, 06:24 PM - 3 Likes	#10
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Fenwoodian What the heck is it about Nikon owners in particular that make them so closed minded and protective? I think Canon users are often as bad. The problem is not the real photographers but amateur wannabees. And I don't mean amateur as opposed to professional in the sense of earning a living, rather I mean people who go to best buy or the like and buy a camera because they saw that logo at a sports event. In other words they did no research, have no real knowledge of photography and just 'take pictures', but fiercely defend their brand choice as if the brand really meant anything concerning the final result. I have been to seminars and outings with true 'professionals' meaning either I respect them as real photographers or they actually do make a living using a camera. And NEVER has any of those folks said a negative thing about Pentax. In general gear was much less a subject. Most of the conversations were about locations, light, lighting, technique and so on. Never about what brand we shot. If your work is good enough to run with the big dogs nobody cares what you shoot. And if all you worry about is what gear someone is using, well, most likely you are not running with the big dogs. The reason we see less fanboy fanaticism with Pentax is that it is really hard to actually BUY a Pentax. You have to have done your research and really have some understanding of cameras and photography. So we have far less 'wannabees' than most other brands. I think that translates into more respect for the work and less concern for the logo.

09-23-2016, 07:02 PM - 2 Likes	#11
Unregistered User 8 Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,694	Absolutely stunning images get taken by all the " brands," and very ordinary ones too. Forget the EXIF data and appreciate the photograph IMO.

09-23-2016, 08:00 PM - 3 Likes	#12
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	Originally posted by MJSfoto1956 Mac vs. PC anyone? :P M We aren't allowed to talk politics here

09-23-2016, 08:13 PM - 2 Likes	#13
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	Originally posted by Fenwoodian Just recently on a Nikon blog I happened to say some favorable things about the K1 and K3ii's pixel shift mode. Gee, I got pounced on by a gang of their fanboy flag protectors, none of whom had any knowledge or experience with a pixel shift camera! Don't worry. I hang out with Nikon guys for occasional shooting. At first they wondered why, why???? Pentax? Then they laughed at me when I said I have old glass LBA, and prefer Pentax. They actually had no idea that Pentax makes DSLRs Then they saw my old helios and takumar, they stopped laughing, and asked where I get old glass from. Then they saw my K-1, and well... I'm afraid one day I can convert them to Pentaxians.

09-23-2016, 08:14 PM	#14
Bruce Clark Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ocean Grove, Victoria Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,458	+1 for Pentax Forums.

09-23-2016, 09:12 PM	#15
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by cpk See my blog entry: Leica vs Pentax \| I sold my Leicas years ago and am now using mostly Pentax. Interesting and informative blog post, thanks for sharing it. Before moving to Pentax some years ago I had a Nikon D200 and a few Nikon lenses. Then I used a Leica Digilux 2 for a couple of years - lovely lens. As I looked for the next change I was looking for a smallish, preferably WR camera with a good range of lenses old and new that I could travel with. I seriously considered 4/3, Micro 4/3 Leica M8 and M9, Ricoh GXR with Leica lenses, Fuji X-Pro1 and APS-C DSLR. I ended up with a Pentax K-5 and currently have a K-3. In the final analysis the perceived marginal gains that Leica M lenses would give me over Pentax lenses was for me not worth four times (or more) the cost. Everyone has their own decision matrix and value proposition, but that was mine. I am still very happy with that set of decisions, and subsequent K mount lens purchases. It would be fair to say it isn't gear that is holding my photography back