No love for K-1 again

**lithedreamer** · 12-07-2016, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by awscreo

Sorry I must've broken some unspoken rule on Pentaxforums?

---------- Post added 12-07-16 at 08:11 PM ----------

What's so ground breaking in 5D IV?

Honestly curious about what's special about the mark IV, myself.

bigfoxkiB · 12-07-2016, 11:47 PM

Same here...don't see why Mark VI costs so much more than its predecessor...maybe the 4K and all the little things added up for the extra thousand.
Even K-1 with lens bundle is hundreds of dollar less...

**Schraubstock** · 12-08-2016, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by wibbly

It just seems that no matter what the review says, it earns a commentary around here.

That's our job.

bxf · 12-08-2016, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by wibbly

it just seems that no matter what the review says, it earns a commentary around here.

SO you prefer to believe that only favorable reviews should be mentioned here???

**AggieDad** · 12-08-2016, 08:19 AM

My only commentary is that I find Popular Photography about the worst of all the photo mags I to which I have subscribed. The subscription was cancelled for other magazines that have much stronger content.

wibbly · 12-08-2016, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by bxf

SO you prefer to believe that only favorable reviews should be mentioned here???

no, not at all. i just think it's curious how a bunch of people who are obviously sold on the camera (or better yet already have one) are so fascinated by what other people think about it. so they make posts defending the camera when it gets a poor review, or applauding the reviewer when they say something nice about it.

just an observation, as i said.

awscreo · 12-08-2016, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by wibbly

no, not at all. i just think it's curious how a bunch of people who are obviously sold on the camera (or better yet already have one) are so fascinated by what other people think about it. so they make posts defending the camera when it gets a poor review, or applauding the reviewer when they say something nice about it.

just an observation, as i said.

Maybe that's why fan-based echo chambers like any brand specific photo forum exists? It's the nature of any brand-loyalty.

slip · 12-08-2016, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by awscreo

Maybe that's why fan-based echo chambers like any brand specific photo forum exists? It's the nature of any brand-loyalty.

I like the brand, but I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" I do consider myself a reality-based person... there are good things and bad things to each.
When I first got The K10 when it came out the only thing that made it stand out was in body shake reduction. If all the brands had that, it would have been a toss up on which system I would have today. Once I invested in a Pentax system I didn't change course do to the $$ cost of changing over
Also, the support factor of this forums over the past 10+ years certainly makes staying with Pentax easier

Randy

awscreo · 12-08-2016, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by slip

I like the brand, but I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" I do consider myself a reality-based person... there are good things and bad things to each.
When I first got The K10 when it came out the only thing that made it stand out was in body shake reduction. If all the brands had that, it would have been a toss up on which system I would have today. Once I invested in a Pentax system I didn't change course do to the $$ cost of changing over
Also, the support factor of this forums over the past 10+ years certainly makes staying with Pentax easier

Randy

My experience with Pentax is way more limited as I only switched 2-3 months ago. I previously shot with Olympus mft body. I don't really think I'm a fan yet either, my experience is too limited, I haven't experienced other sides of the system as a whole such as customer support, repairs, flashes, reliability etc. But, while I do understand that K-1 is not a perfect body, I still think that I made a right choice buying it instead of d750/d800/d800E/d810 (if I stretched my budget), or any 5D body, at least for me personally.

robert52 · 12-08-2016, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by slip

when you look at the K1 as a whole, having a 5 year old sensor with a few extra perks (lights near the camera mounts, astro tracer etc) it isn't ground breaking

but to a Pentaxian they are

maybe this is how they kept the price down.

randy

Hi as I been living under a rock for a long time what camera(s) was this sensor in? thanks

**RobA_Oz** · 12-08-2016, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by wibbly

no, not at all. i just think it's curious how a bunch of people who are obviously sold on the camera (or better yet already have one) are so fascinated by what other people think about it. so they make posts defending the camera when it gets a poor review, or applauding the reviewer when they say something nice about it.

just an observation, as i said.

Hmm. Are you sure there isn't an element of inference added to your observation? Criticism of a reviewer's methodology, let alone their silence on salient facts, is not necessarily just defending a brand or product. In any event, I don't think it's a bit curious that people tend to defend their choices: that's just human nature, and nothing to be wondered about.

Originally posted by awscreo

Maybe that's why fan-based echo chambers like any brand specific photo forum exists? It's the nature of any brand-loyalty.

It would be an odd voluntary group of people who didn't have an element of this amongst them. However, the main purpose of this particular forum, as both stated by the owner and practised by most members, is to provide a resource to assist users of Pentax photographic equipment, not to act as a cheer squad for the brand, even if it seems that way at times.

**lithedreamer** · 12-08-2016, 03:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robert52

Hi as I been living under a rock for a long time what camera(s) was this sensor in? thanks

The Nikon D810, I guess?

slip · 12-08-2016, 03:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robert52

Hi as I been living under a rock for a long time what camera(s) was this sensor in? thanks

I believe it was the Nikon D800, now the D810. Please correct me if I am mistaken

Randy

robert52 · 12-08-2016, 03:52 PM

Ok thanks for that BTW who makes Canon sensors?

**lithedreamer** · 12-08-2016, 03:53 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robert52

Ok thanks for that BTW who makes Canon sensors?

Canon makes their own sensors, I think. Sony makes everyone else's, probably.

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12-07-2016, 07:51 PM	#16
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by awscreo Sorry I must've broken some unspoken rule on Pentaxforums? ---------- Post added 12-07-16 at 08:11 PM ---------- What's so ground breaking in 5D IV? Honestly curious about what's special about the mark IV, myself.

12-07-2016, 11:47 PM	#17
bigfoxkiB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New York City Posts: 100	Same here...don't see why Mark VI costs so much more than its predecessor...maybe the 4K and all the little things added up for the extra thousand. Even K-1 with lens bundle is hundreds of dollar less...

12-08-2016, 03:11 AM	#18
Schraubstock Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,386	Originally posted by wibbly It just seems that no matter what the review says, it earns a commentary around here. That's our job.

12-08-2016, 06:00 AM	#19
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by wibbly it just seems that no matter what the review says, it earns a commentary around here. SO you prefer to believe that only favorable reviews should be mentioned here???

12-08-2016, 08:19 AM	#20
AggieDad Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,453	My only commentary is that I find Popular Photography about the worst of all the photo mags I to which I have subscribed. The subscription was cancelled for other magazines that have much stronger content.

12-08-2016, 08:57 AM	#21
wibbly Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Edmonton Posts: 600	Originally posted by bxf SO you prefer to believe that only favorable reviews should be mentioned here??? no, not at all. i just think it's curious how a bunch of people who are obviously sold on the camera (or better yet already have one) are so fascinated by what other people think about it. so they make posts defending the camera when it gets a poor review, or applauding the reviewer when they say something nice about it. just an observation, as i said.

12-08-2016, 12:07 PM	#22
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722 Original Poster	Originally posted by wibbly no, not at all. i just think it's curious how a bunch of people who are obviously sold on the camera (or better yet already have one) are so fascinated by what other people think about it. so they make posts defending the camera when it gets a poor review, or applauding the reviewer when they say something nice about it. just an observation, as i said. Maybe that's why fan-based echo chambers like any brand specific photo forum exists? It's the nature of any brand-loyalty.

12-08-2016, 12:41 PM	#23
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,535	Originally posted by awscreo Maybe that's why fan-based echo chambers like any brand specific photo forum exists? It's the nature of any brand-loyalty. I like the brand, but I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" I do consider myself a reality-based person... there are good things and bad things to each. When I first got The K10 when it came out the only thing that made it stand out was in body shake reduction. If all the brands had that, it would have been a toss up on which system I would have today. Once I invested in a Pentax system I didn't change course do to the $$ cost of changing over Also, the support factor of this forums over the past 10+ years certainly makes staying with Pentax easier Randy

12-08-2016, 01:21 PM	#24
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722 Original Poster	Originally posted by slip I like the brand, but I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" I do consider myself a reality-based person... there are good things and bad things to each. When I first got The K10 when it came out the only thing that made it stand out was in body shake reduction. If all the brands had that, it would have been a toss up on which system I would have today. Once I invested in a Pentax system I didn't change course do to the $$ cost of changing over Also, the support factor of this forums over the past 10+ years certainly makes staying with Pentax easier Randy My experience with Pentax is way more limited as I only switched 2-3 months ago. I previously shot with Olympus mft body. I don't really think I'm a fan yet either, my experience is too limited, I haven't experienced other sides of the system as a whole such as customer support, repairs, flashes, reliability etc. But, while I do understand that K-1 is not a perfect body, I still think that I made a right choice buying it instead of d750/d800/d800E/d810 (if I stretched my budget), or any 5D body, at least for me personally.

12-08-2016, 01:48 PM	#25
robert52 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: At the pimple of bum of life Posts: 264	Originally posted by slip when you look at the K1 as a whole, having a 5 year old sensor with a few extra perks (lights near the camera mounts, astro tracer etc) it isn't ground breaking but to a Pentaxian they are maybe this is how they kept the price down. randy Hi as I been living under a rock for a long time what camera(s) was this sensor in? thanks

12-08-2016, 03:45 PM	#26
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by wibbly no, not at all. i just think it's curious how a bunch of people who are obviously sold on the camera (or better yet already have one) are so fascinated by what other people think about it. so they make posts defending the camera when it gets a poor review, or applauding the reviewer when they say something nice about it. just an observation, as i said. Hmm. Are you sure there isn't an element of inference added to your observation? Criticism of a reviewer's methodology, let alone their silence on salient facts, is not necessarily just defending a brand or product. In any event, I don't think it's a bit curious that people tend to defend their choices: that's just human nature, and nothing to be wondered about. Originally posted by awscreo Maybe that's why fan-based echo chambers like any brand specific photo forum exists? It's the nature of any brand-loyalty. It would be an odd voluntary group of people who didn't have an element of this amongst them. However, the main purpose of this particular forum, as both stated by the owner and practised by most members, is to provide a resource to assist users of Pentax photographic equipment, not to act as a cheer squad for the brand, even if it seems that way at times.

12-08-2016, 03:50 PM - 1 Like	#27
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by robert52 Hi as I been living under a rock for a long time what camera(s) was this sensor in? thanks The Nikon D810, I guess?

12-08-2016, 03:50 PM - 1 Like	#28
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,535	Originally posted by robert52 Hi as I been living under a rock for a long time what camera(s) was this sensor in? thanks I believe it was the Nikon D800, now the D810. Please correct me if I am mistaken Randy

12-08-2016, 03:52 PM	#29
robert52 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: At the pimple of bum of life Posts: 264	Ok thanks for that BTW who makes Canon sensors?

12-08-2016, 03:53 PM - 1 Like	#30
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by robert52 Ok thanks for that BTW who makes Canon sensors? Canon makes their own sensors, I think. Sony makes everyone else's, probably.