Originally posted by normhead Ya there was two sides to segregation as well, I'm sure there are two sides to every genocide, and probably two sides to every murder. Usually there's one side that doesn't really bear paying much attention too. There is simply one side here. The interment of many of the people was an atrocity. I am distrustful o those who spend time defending the guilty, unless they are paid lawyers. People who work the impact of atrocities by stating not directly related facts and do it for free? I have a different opinion of them.
You only see one side, but there are two here.
Lumping those vague atrocities in to what happened here is as stretch since Japan declared war on the US. The nations on the African continent did not. Nor was this genocide. After the war most of the interned people at these camps went home.
That is exactly why I spoke up. Because this was becoming one sided and thus a witch hunt.
Originally posted by normhead Sure the guy murdered your mother, but he gave a lot to charity. The relevant part is he murdered your mother. The part about the charity... that kind of gets cancelled by the other thing, except to remind us that apparently decent human beings can do indecent things, while giving to charity.
But you have to put yourself in the shoes of Americans who were not Japanese ethnically. This doesn't appear to be a direct case of racism (the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.) but of fear that ethnic Japanese Americans would attack inland, supportive of the Japanese military during the war.. with Japan. That said, I'm sure racism probably had an effect on generally causing this situation.
As a result, of a larger system of racism still in the country, communication between races was likely rather limited.
You didn't know
they were just like you because you were told not to befriend people not like you and they didn't look or talk like you. Because of the largely non-intermingling of ethnicities, there were a lot of different cultures in the US with sharp borders between them.
They still exist in some parts today, but no where near the level they did 75 years ago.
Originally posted by normhead The best excuse for these dudes in my mind was it was war time and they just didn't want to allocate the resources to investigate each one of these people to determine if any warranted incarceration.
Exactly. And btw J Edgar Hoover (Director of the FBI during WW2) was opposed to the internment camps.
FDR went ahead anyways and signed the
executive order (9066) forcing all west coast Japanese Americans into these nasty camps. So it seems they didn't have the resources to conduct these investigations nor the ability due to the president going another way (likely due to key people in the military at the time being in hysteria/panic and shouting in FDR's ear).
Originally posted by normhead That said, it was a n allocation of resources mistake as much as it was a human right's mistake. Incarcerating people isn't cheap. Easier to just round them all up, but it had to e costly to keep them. And I 'm all sure based on past history, there were Americans who wanted their property and businesses lobbying for it.
Absolutely. I'm sure those who WERE hugely racist or business competitors supporting the creation of camps, but they weren't the sole source or reasoning of the camps. Fear was.