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11-26-2017, 03:28 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by HarisF1 Quote
Is there a need to construct a new word when the word 'bokeh' describes it all perfectly?
How about 'Hokeh' ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by honey bo bo Quote
Bokeholics have turned it primerily into background in discussions I have read and it is rare that Foreground is even mentioned.
Maybe the discussion happens that way due to the smaller number of images using front blur as a framing tool as opposed to the number of images with background blur and therefore people tend to, er, focus on (pardon the pun) background blur when discussing bokeh.

Here's a second opinion on bokeh: https://www.zeiss.com/content/dam/Photography/new/pdf/en/cln_archiv/cln35_en...cial_bokeh.pdf It's 45 pages long and discusses depth of field and bokeh.

But all that stuff aside, if you just want to create a new word trend all I can say is: Why not? Fokeh is catchy and it's better that the internet creation: 'addicting', an irrelevant word when we already have addictive.

Anyhoo just start using Fokeh all the time and it will take off, after all it works in politics.
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Then reclaim the word.
DONE ! I am !

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QuoteOriginally posted by timb64 Quote
I agree the 55-300 gives some great bokeh
And I don't have to think a lot chasing critters

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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
I call it ugly photography. I really don't like out of focus stuff in the foreground.
Oh Oh ! A cup of Warm Milk perhaps.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Alex645 Quote
The rough translation (non-photo related) for bokeh in Japanese in English is "blur". Of course we know blur in English would technically mean a shutter speed too slow causing motion blur....but everyone accepts it now to mean the aesthetically pleasing out of focus (a.k.a. unacceptable sharpness) areas in the image (both fore and background).

So to answer your question, the answer is 'bokeh'.

From my experience the lenses that produce beautiful background bokeh, also produce nice foreground bokeh. Foreground bokeh is harder to look pleasing, unless the intention in POV, tilt-shift, or you can find nice backlit leaves to create a filtering effect.

The only time I've seen the word "fokeh" used was on cell phones that have a camera app that creates "fake bokeh". So I guess if you're using an app or adding gaussian or any other simulated blur in post processing, that is called fokeh.
I made it up before Trump did ! Dibbs!

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QuoteOriginally posted by BigMackCam Quote
Clearly very much a matter of personal taste. I really like it... I think it can add a real sense of space, distance and separation of the subject when used correctly, and the above photos are good examples of this
Thanks Mac I learned that in Grade 1 Photog Composition It gives a 3D look to me

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QuoteOriginally posted by 35mmfilmfan Quote
How about 'Hokeh' ?
I think that's what the Kids are getting me for Christmas for when I start my Self Medication here in good old Kannada

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Maybe the discussion happens that way due to the smaller number of images using front blur as a framing tool as opposed to the number of images with background blur and therefore people tend to, er, focus on (pardon the pun) background blur when discussing bokeh.

Here's a second opinion on bokeh: https://www.zeiss.com/content/dam/Photography/new/pdf/en/cln_archiv/cln35_en...cial_bokeh.pdf It's 45 pages long and discusses depth of field and bokeh.

But all that stuff aside, if you just want to create a new word trend all I can say is: Why not? Fokeh is catchy and it's better that the internet creation: 'addicting', an irrelevant word when we already have addictive.

Anyhoo just start using Fokeh all the time and it will take off, after all it works in politics.
I'm starting to get a head ach with all this thinking and potential reading and the thought of Trump stealing my new word and we aren't covered under Canada Health I may have to start Self Medicating before Xmas.

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I'm starting to get a head ach with all this thinking and potential reading and the thought of Trump stealing my new word and we aren't covered under Canada Health I may have to start Self Medicating before Xmas.
Ne'er mind, if it's all getting too much you can spend some time waking up to sunrise here on the Brisbane river.
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It won't be a white Christmas though, you'd have to spend your time in t-shirt & shorts, going to the beach and suffering through warm summer evening BBQ's. We're evil like that around here.


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Love fokeh.

A cure for flatness in a picture, IMHO.

Try shooting people with bits of other people as fokeh ... makes for an intimate, candid feel.


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Then of course there are occasions where "nokeh" is appropriate.

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Love fokeh.

A cure for flatness in a picture, IMHO.

Try shooting people with bits of other people as fokeh ... makes for an intimate, candid feel.
Where's he gonna put MOM

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"Fokeh" could be confusing as "fauxkeh" already seems claimed to mean bokeh faked in software (seems popular with the portrait modes on iphones).

Maybe "frokeh"? It appears to have some traction for "front bokeh", but it might need championing to keep the large haired bokeh crowd from appropriating it.
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Fokeh from the Plum Tree

Here is a female Downy woodpecker in my plum tree. Due to my limited angles to catch her in focus I ended up with Bokeh, "Fokeh" and a bit of "Snowkeh" just above and behind her.
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Here is a female Downy woodpecker in my plum tree. Due to my limited angles to catch her in focus I ended up with Bokeh, "Fokeh" and a bit of "Snowkeh" just above and behind her.
HD 55-300PLM 300mm, f6.3 ISO 400.
That's what I'm talking about ! I think you should drop the "w" though in Snowkeh before submitting to Websters . IMHO
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Snowkeh vs Snokeh

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That's what I'm talking about ! I think you should drop the "w" though in Snowkeh before submitting to Websters . IMHO
Webster's won't take my calls anymore. I do love the Bokeh, "frokeh" and "snokeh" on the new PLM version of the 55-300 with the rounded blades.
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Where's he gonna put MOM
He's running out of real estate, isn't he?
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He's running out of real estate, isn't he?
Clowns? Really? don't they have mental health professionals where you are Ian?
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Maybe "frokeh"? It appears to have some traction for "front bokeh", but it might need championing to keep the large haired bokeh crowd from appropriating it.
If it means annoying that 'Fro Knows' YouTube vlogger, I'm all for it, Brian!
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Clowns? Really? don't they have mental health professionals where you are Ian?
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It's a pretty interesting subculture, SSGG. You can see the set of pics this came from here:

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