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12-19-2017, 05:49 PM   #46
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Here's another one I was quite pleased with,front and back bokeh!
That again is what I'm talking about! You almost lost the shot if the Goose had been in a wheel chair ! The Grass fore & aft does not even register with my tired old eyes but it does give me a dimensional feeling. It looks like a clone to my 55-300 BOKEH / FOKEH ! The Lord's previous shots are nice detailed but to my eyes (I only have one good one) are too busy and one would see them more for a detailed Real Estate Add IMHO

This shot was rushed (the Cow was Shy) with my kit lens (18-55) so not enough in the foreground and none in background. Only fix is to leave my 55-300WR on the Camera all the time !


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I think it's quite useful for making good depth, or creating a crowded feel. I do think it's easily an ugly effect however.

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I did not say I did not like anything in the foreground, only that I wanted it in focus and the avoidance of deliberate "framing" ...
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Excellent Article ! I'm really sloppy with People compositions (except for portraiture) and very little bokeh enters into my attempts which I'm going to change. They are all looking like "Here we are at.............." I've found the magic lense for wild life & landscapes now I'll have to find the one for my people shots. The fence shot is interesting to the extent that I have always used it to all but eliminate the obstruction rather than lose the photo never to accent the prime. Zoo shots and once at a Air Show. Bokeh to me makes the picture come alive with dimensions and isolating the prime story.

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I do think it's easily an ugly effect however.
Example ?


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I did not say I did not like anything in the foreground, only that I wanted it in focus and the avoidance of deliberate "framing". For example these :-







Fair enough; I have posted pictures on PF before, but not many and I have a job to find them myself as there are so many threads here. But whatever you think of my work, or whether I even have any work, is nothing to do with personal preferences for picture styles, which as this thread shows can differ. I can prefer Holman Hunt to Joshua Reynolds, even though I would not know how to hold a paint brush.

Returning to topic, the human eye is only focussed near the centre of view so it is arguable that out-of-focus foregrounds and backgrounds (and sides for that matter*) are authentic. However that is not generally how the human eye works; because we look around a scene (or as much of it as we want to see), and as we scan it each area comes into focus when we look in its direction. The same happens when we look at a fully focussed photo, but if some parts of the photo are unfocussed then the eye is frustrated in its natural function. I find that uncomfortable. The case of people or animals in the picture (like the deer photos earlier) is different because they tend to grab our whole attention; there is a primaeval instinct on our part to assess whether a living creature is a threat or an opportunity, and our brain then tends to exclude the surroundings anyway.

* And centre too, if you like the work of Margaret Julia Cameron
You can express an opinion about my pictures and I can respond with what value I place on that opinion.

Based on what you've posted above (I can't find that you've posted any other pictures) my original opinion is unaltered

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bokeru, vb. 1. become senile. 2. blur; fade.

Some comments in this thread suggest that the first meaning is not completely inapplicable.
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