Cost rant.

stevebrot · 03-21-2018, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by btnapa

You are right, it will get political to go into it any deeper.

...and this thread will be closed quite promptly by the mods as a result. The rant reads like a complaint about the cost of goods in the EU with cameras as an example.

Steve

**BigMackCam** · 03-21-2018, 07:35 AM

Yes... let's keep well away from the "P" word, please ;

**aslyfox** · 03-21-2018, 07:47 AM

just a thought

if ' discussion ' was substituted for ' rant ' in the thread's caption -

cost discussion

perhaps a person seeing the caption might have a different initial impression?

mohb · 03-21-2018, 08:05 AM

If you live in Norway everything is about twice (at least) as expensive as anywhere else

IgorZ · 03-21-2018, 08:13 AM

We have a 13% sales tax that is added onto the listed price... Prices are often lower in the US though, lots of people go shopping in the US. Lots of people have been ranting about book prices, for example. Books sold here typically have US and Canadian price listed, and the US price is lower in excess of the exchange rate...

**aslyfox** · 03-21-2018, 08:20 AM - **2 Likes**

prices in the US for the same items can vary depending on region of the country

sales taxes vary from state to state and certain items might be exempt depending on the state as well

don't know if that would be true for photographic equipment and there are on line options there

most obviously are prices in Alaska ( personal experience ) and Hawaii ( rumor)

I would expect the same would be true for the other islands controlled by the US

Florida Keys ???

Photobill · 03-21-2018, 09:37 AM - **1 Like**

I can see where that can be very frustrating!!!
I live in the US (Oregon) one of the few states that dose not have a sales tax (i love it) we can buy products for less than other states that have a sales tax. But I live in a smaller community so we pay MORE than people living in larger community's. People living in Nevada don't pay a state income tax and people living in NY pay a hough state income tax.

So my point is that the price varies depending on your location. This SUPPOSEDLY reflects what your getting back from where you live.
High tax = more government return.
Low tax = less government return
I know this is not always the case and I DEFINITELY am not saying what is right or wrong!!!!!
Best wishes!!

Culture · 03-21-2018, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

We make up for it in the cost of our healthcare

As noted above, taxes and cost of doing business account for the differences in price. Actual sales volume might also be a factor.

Steve

I do understand your point. But we pay high tax from our salaries to benefit from good health care and infrastructure.

I dont see why I have to pay a high tax for my camera. It has nothing to do with the state

**BigMackCam** · 03-21-2018, 09:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Culture

I dont see why I have to pay a high tax for my camera. It has nothing to do with the state

See the reasons I gave earlier

DeadJohn · 03-21-2018, 09:55 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Yes... let's keep well away from the "P" word, please ;

Yeah, stop discussing "Pentax" immediately!

**BigMackCam** · 03-21-2018, 09:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by DeadJohn

Yeah, stop discussing "Pentax" immediately!

LOL

It might come to that

Culture · 03-21-2018, 10:19 AM

Oh Boy!

**Rondec** · 03-21-2018, 10:41 AM - **2 Likes**

The state of Virginia does have a 5.3 percent sales tax and some counties tack on an additional 0.7 percent to bring it up to an even 6 percent. That's significantly less than the VAT that is charged in most EU members, but it is probably better to compare pre-tax prices for goods on both sides of the Atlantic. As to whether or not different taxes are worth it, I would hesitate to comment. Each country decides what services they will offer their citizens and then the bill has to be paid by a variety of taxes. If you cut down VAT then you probably have to add some other tax elsewhere.

**aslyfox** · 03-21-2018, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

Yeah, stop discussing "Pentax" immediately!

Originally posted by BigMackCam

LOL

It might come to that

hey mods, this is a joke

a benevolent dictatorship

is

still a dictatorship

**BigMackCam** · 03-21-2018, 11:00 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Aslyfox

hey mods, this is a joke

a benevolent dictatorship

is

still a dictatorship

No talk of dictatorships, please... that's politics!

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03-21-2018, 07:32 AM	#16
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by btnapa You are right, it will get political to go into it any deeper. ...and this thread will be closed quite promptly by the mods as a result. The rant reads like a complaint about the cost of goods in the EU with cameras as an example. Steve

03-21-2018, 07:35 AM	#17
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,679	Yes... let's keep well away from the "P" word, please ;

03-21-2018, 07:47 AM	#18
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	just a thought if ' discussion ' was substituted for ' rant ' in the thread's caption - cost discussion perhaps a person seeing the caption might have a different initial impression?

03-21-2018, 08:05 AM	#19
mohb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,912	If you live in Norway everything is about twice (at least) as expensive as anywhere else

03-21-2018, 08:13 AM	#20
IgorZ Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,735	We have a 13% sales tax that is added onto the listed price... Prices are often lower in the US though, lots of people go shopping in the US. Lots of people have been ranting about book prices, for example. Books sold here typically have US and Canadian price listed, and the US price is lower in excess of the exchange rate...

03-21-2018, 08:20 AM - 2 Likes	#21
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	prices in the US for the same items can vary depending on region of the country sales taxes vary from state to state and certain items might be exempt depending on the state as well don't know if that would be true for photographic equipment and there are on line options there most obviously are prices in Alaska ( personal experience ) and Hawaii ( rumor) I would expect the same would be true for the other islands controlled by the US Florida Keys ???

03-21-2018, 09:37 AM - 1 Like	#22
Photobill Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 228	I can see where that can be very frustrating!!! I live in the US (Oregon) one of the few states that dose not have a sales tax (i love it) we can buy products for less than other states that have a sales tax. But I live in a smaller community so we pay MORE than people living in larger community's. People living in Nevada don't pay a state income tax and people living in NY pay a hough state income tax. So my point is that the price varies depending on your location. This SUPPOSEDLY reflects what your getting back from where you live. High tax = more government return. Low tax = less government return I know this is not always the case and I DEFINITELY am not saying what is right or wrong!!!!! Best wishes!!

03-21-2018, 09:49 AM	#23
Culture Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vaasa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 818 Original Poster	Originally posted by stevebrot We make up for it in the cost of our healthcare As noted above, taxes and cost of doing business account for the differences in price. Actual sales volume might also be a factor. Steve I do understand your point. But we pay high tax from our salaries to benefit from good health care and infrastructure. I dont see why I have to pay a high tax for my camera. It has nothing to do with the state

03-21-2018, 09:51 AM - 1 Like	#24
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,679	Originally posted by Culture I dont see why I have to pay a high tax for my camera. It has nothing to do with the state See the reasons I gave earlier

03-21-2018, 09:55 AM - 3 Likes	#25
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	Originally posted by BigMackCam Yes... let's keep well away from the "P" word, please ; Yeah, stop discussing "Pentax" immediately!

03-21-2018, 09:56 AM - 1 Like	#26
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,679	Originally posted by DeadJohn Yeah, stop discussing "Pentax" immediately! LOL It might come to that

03-21-2018, 10:19 AM	#27
Culture Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vaasa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 818 Original Poster	Oh Boy!

03-21-2018, 10:41 AM - 2 Likes	#28
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,662	The state of Virginia does have a 5.3 percent sales tax and some counties tack on an additional 0.7 percent to bring it up to an even 6 percent. That's significantly less than the VAT that is charged in most EU members, but it is probably better to compare pre-tax prices for goods on both sides of the Atlantic. As to whether or not different taxes are worth it, I would hesitate to comment. Each country decides what services they will offer their citizens and then the bill has to be paid by a variety of taxes. If you cut down VAT then you probably have to add some other tax elsewhere.

03-21-2018, 10:49 AM	#29
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	Originally posted by DeadJohn Yeah, stop discussing "Pentax" immediately! Originally posted by BigMackCam LOL It might come to that hey mods, this is a joke a benevolent dictatorship is still a dictatorship

03-21-2018, 11:00 AM - 1 Like	#30
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,679	Originally posted by Aslyfox hey mods, this is a joke a benevolent dictatorship is still a dictatorship No talk of dictatorships, please... that's politics!