I know a cryptic title, but today, I was presented with being persistent actually does pay off - in a good way.... or don't take No as a final answer.
Several years ago, I was down in Oak Creek Canyon and ran into a guy also doing some night shooting, who said he shot for NatGeo among some others - International Dark-Sky Association, etc. He certainly had the camera equipment for it, and was a professor up at NAU - even gave me his business card. He showed me some shots from the vista point at the top of Oak Creek Canyon (earlier in the evening - wonderful shots) - and said something about having to sneak in since it closes after dark.
In the past I had shot up there from the vista (during the day, as every tourist does), excellent location and have thought about trying to shoot the Milky Way there too (needs to be August or September for the southern exposure). So, the other day it looked like there was going to be an opening in the weather. The weather has been bad for the last couple of months (the Monsoons). I started getting everything stacked up by the front door - there just after noon, just to be ready.
Was thinking about everything, so I looked up the number for the canyon ranger station and called. The ranger lady answered and I asked about being able to walk into the vista point after hours to shoot the Milky Way using Oak Creek Canyon as a foreground. Absolutely NOT!!! It's closed for a reason - to keep you out after hours. You can be arrested! This confirming what the guy said a couple of years ago. Checking the weather radar again and you could see the clouds forming and the rain was getting ready to dump right over Sedona - so no road trip tonight.
Yesterday - big storm the night before, TV coverage of the damage. I decided to call the Coconino National Forest Office and ask, one more time - climbing up the chain. The lady who answered was a ranger too. I explained and she replied - well yes, of course you can. I explained about the call the day before - and she said, well the volunteers usually do not know about everything, but just a moment. She asked someone from their law enforcement detail. She came back and said, no problem - but he suggested calling the chief ranger in the canyon. She put me through, and it rang over to his voice mail. I left a message, with an explanation and my phone number.
Well, this morning about 10am, the chief ranger called to tell me - absolutely YES!! I could park along the road (89A) in one of the little turnouts and walk in (the county sheriff does not mind folks parking there). The parking lot gate is closed to keep the drunks and college kids out (and from tearing up the place), but by all means - I could hoof my camera gear in and set up shop and take all the pictures I want. I just didn't want to get set up in the middle of the night and get a tap on the shoulder, hauled off in cuffs or return to my vehicle and find out it had been towed.
So, in the end it all turned out. Hopefully, the weather in September is better......