Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
03-17-2019, 12:38 PM   #1
Site Supporter
Site Supporter




Join Date: May 2014
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 201
Animal calls for wildlife?

Have you ever used a call to attract animals (birds, deer, turkey..) for nature photography?

03-17-2019, 02:43 PM - 1 Like   #2
Pentaxian
KiloHotelphoto's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Glen Mills, PA
Photos: Albums
Posts: 696
Yes, I’ve used the Merlin Bird ID app by the Cornell Lab that has bird calls.

It has worked several times in bringing small song birds closer to help fill the frame.
03-17-2019, 03:19 PM   #3
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
clackers's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Melbourne
Photos: Albums
Posts: 13,480
Frowned upon here, because it stresses birds - they go into the territorial behaviour that we hope presents them as subjects.

In spring it may even jeopardize nesting behaviour, which is the last thing anyone wants.

But, I confess to having done it several times.

03-17-2019, 03:43 PM   #4
Pentaxian
timb64's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Here, there and everywhere.
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 6,799
QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
Frowned upon here, because it stresses birds - they go into the territorial behaviour that we hope presents them as subjects.

In spring it may even jeopardize nesting behaviour, which is the last thing anyone wants.

But, I confess to having done it several times.
This.....except the last line

03-17-2019, 03:53 PM   #5
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter




Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Nelson B.C.
Posts: 3,723
I've done it once; the reaction was immediate and quite vigorous. It was breeding time and the species came out of the bushes to see the intruder. It made me uncomfortable knowing how tenuous a successful breeding is. The female might have left a nest. I haven't done it since. I prefer to be patient.
03-17-2019, 08:51 PM   #6
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
clackers's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Melbourne
Photos: Albums
Posts: 13,480
QuoteOriginally posted by timb64 Quote
This.....except the last line
Well, I've said I wasn't proud, Timb. But it's the only way to get some species out of their cover and onto a fairly predictable dead bush or tree branch if it's five or more metres away.

03-18-2019, 05:52 AM   #7
Pentaxian




Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ontario
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 3,332
Pretty much every time we go outside we are interfering with nature in some way. Consider the pros and cons of your interactions and behave accordingly. A minor stress on an animal can be worth the experience of the interaction and the increased appreciation for the species or nature in general. However, it's very easy to rationalize bad behavior so it's always a good idea to talk it out with other nature loving folks so you understand just what lines you're crossing. Conversely, it's easy to condemn every nature interaction and take the moral high ground, in which case you should also live in an enclosed self contained biosphere and never go outside.

I do not outright consider calls to be some kind of evil thing. But avoid - breeding season, birds that are being called by other photographers/birders, sensitive species, and overusing calls. I have about a zillion wild turkeys in my area. Using a turkey call on private property to draw a flock closer every Sunday in March wouldn't be a major stressor. Going to a park where there's a well known nesting owl and playing calls so I and a half dozen other photographers can play paparazzi isn't very respectful of the owl.

I do call at our local frogs and toads (sometimes recordings, but it somehow feels more honest if I'm mimicing their calls myself). It can help get a chorus going. Again, I do limit my time with the frogs to a photo or two before moving to the next subject. Most species of frogs are very tolerant to people sitting closely to them and you can watch their breeding activity up close if you're patient. The benefit? My appreciation for frogs and toads has grown immensely, and I've shared my experiences and photos with hundreds and hundreds of local folk who hopefully view our amphibious friends in a better light.


03-18-2019, 09:22 AM   #8
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
jacamar's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Toronto
Photos: Albums
Posts: 2,185
Birders have been "pishing" birds like sparrows and warblers to get them to pop up out of the vegetation for a long time, but more here in North America than where I first birded in UK. I have used the Peterson "Birding by Ear" recordings on my iPod from time to time, and now the calls in the Sibley app. Best to avoid where there's a higher density of birders and/or where the birds would be stressed. It's not permitted in some parks and other protected areas.

03-19-2019, 08:28 AM - 1 Like   #9
Site Supporter
Site Supporter




Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 220
Never have, never will. I listen for their calls, I observe their behavior. Some days, I am lucky. Others, not so much. As far as I am concerned, it is their home and we are simply guests.
03-19-2019, 10:15 AM   #10
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
clackers's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Melbourne
Photos: Albums
Posts: 13,480
For any confused readers, pishing is doing a generic imitation of a chick in distress.

Like a police car with lights and sirens in a neighborhood, it can draw out a number of birds through curiosity and anxiety even though it doesn't actually apply to them.

03-19-2019, 02:13 PM   #11
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
jacamar's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Toronto
Photos: Albums
Posts: 2,185
I've seen it described more as a scold or alarm call that birds might make when there is a threat, for example small birds sometimes gang together to mob or chase after crows or owls. It's just sort of a "pishwishwish" sound, sometimes with the odd squeak against the back of your hand. Not something you would do in the presence of non-birders!
03-19-2019, 07:56 PM   #12
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter




Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Nelson B.C.
Posts: 3,723
QuoteOriginally posted by BrianR Quote
Pretty much every time we go outside we are interfering with nature in some way. Consider the pros and cons of your interactions and behave accordingly. A minor stress on an animal can be worth the experience of the interaction and the increased appreciation for the species or nature in general. However, it's very easy to rationalize bad behavior so it's always a good idea to talk it out with other nature loving folks so you understand just what lines you're crossing. Conversely, it's easy to condemn every nature interaction and take the moral high ground, in which case you should also live in an enclosed self contained biosphere and never go outside.

I do not outright consider calls to be some kind of evil thing. But avoid - breeding season, birds that are being called by other photographers/birders, sensitive species, and overusing calls. I have about a zillion wild turkeys in my area. Using a turkey call on private property to draw a flock closer every Sunday in March wouldn't be a major stressor. Going to a park where there's a well known nesting owl and playing calls so I and a half dozen other photographers can play paparazzi isn't very respectful of the owl.

I do call at our local frogs and toads (sometimes recordings, but it somehow feels more honest if I'm mimicing their calls myself). It can help get a chorus going. Again, I do limit my time with the frogs to a photo or two before moving to the next subject. Most species of frogs are very tolerant to people sitting closely to them and you can watch their breeding activity up close if you're patient. The benefit? My appreciation for frogs and toads has grown immensely, and I've shared my experiences and photos with hundreds and hundreds of local folk who hopefully view our amphibious friends in a better light.


At a nearby pond on a warm spring day two Canada Geese came in for a landing, honking and making a racket.The geese already there chimed in as well as all the frogs. It was gloriously noisy for about two minutes as they all reacted to each other. Great fun.

I agree that there aren't hard and fast rules. Unfortunately these things end up being defined by the worst offenders. I wouldn't do it when other people are around for example.

Lovely shot.
03-20-2019, 10:27 AM   #13
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter




Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 75
Iíve never used a call for wildlife photography. Iíve found that camouflaged near a feeder or other food source can be very productive.
03-27-2019, 05:52 PM   #14
Pentaxian
pentax360's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: OR
Posts: 360
I make various squeaking sounds to try and get a reaction, I've only had luck with cats and squirrels.
03-27-2019, 06:05 PM   #15
Pentaxian
SpecialK's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: So California
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 15,686
I yell, "Hey, birdie, I'm comin' to get ya!". I don't have many bird shots. I once said "Hi, Frankie" to a horse, because that was his name.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
cat, noise, photography, squirrel, squirrels, tree
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thematic Wildlife-Non Squirrel Furry Animal Thread bladerunner6 Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 150 4 Days Ago 01:36 PM
The Politics of Fashion Photography Part 26 How Many Calls are Too Many Calls benjikan General Talk 0 02-24-2012 10:43 AM
Obama calls for reduced Government and reorganization eddie1960 General Talk 12 01-14-2012 09:05 AM
Nikon Photographer Shagged by rare animal during a BBC documentary on wildlife Student General Talk 10 02-21-2011 04:26 PM
Lens for bird and wildlife animal photography Nitrok Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 42 11-29-2009 08:45 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:00 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top