[Fran96]

Hello, I need advice. I found a photo where the girl was vaping and e-cig created a smoke cloud. The photo looked promotional I saw it on a vaping site Vapingdaily, but the photo was processed like a 3d effect and this cloud ... I loved it so much. Now I want to make something like that, for myself, I don't want it to be a promotional photo. And there is a problem I have no e-cig for the fume production)))maybe you know how to make the same effect on the photo using Photoshop and it looks like a cloud of real smoke. Thank you!

[timb64]

Hello, I need advice. I found a photo where the girl was vaping and e-cig created a smoke cloud. The photo looked promotional I saw it on a vaping site Vapingdaily, but the photo was processed like a 3d effect and this cloud ... I loved it so much. Now I want to make something like that, for myself, I don't want it to be a promotional photo. And there is a problem I have no e-cig for the fume production)))maybe you know how to make the same effect on the photo using Photoshop and it looks like a cloud of real smoke. Thank you!

It would help if you could point us in the direction of it, preferably the picture itself rather than a link to it!

[tryphon4]

Do you speak about this photo?


It's been bought on Fotolia.

Anyways, let's focus on your problem.

3D effect is given by the lens, depth of field shall be thin but sufficient, background shall be far away, bokeh shall be creamy.

Smoke can be simulated by many photoshop actions, brushes and plugins.
Corel particleshop is an excellent plugin that enables painting with fire, smoke, fireworks etc.
You also can check this link: Real smoke plugin photoshop brushes download (22 photoshop brushes) for commercial use. format: abr

[UncleVanya]

If that's the photo, I personally don't see any 3d effect. To me that smoke looks 2d.

[Sandy Hancock]

If that's the photo, I personally don't see any 3d effect. To me that smoke looks 2d.

I agree. On the other hand, the model's face is very nicely rendered, with a certain three dimensionality to it.

But on top of all that, this is the OP's first post in the forums. Specifically promoting a vaping website. Do I detect the odour of a rodent?

[luftfluss]

I think some people conflate subject isolation with "3D". They are not the same.

[stevebrot]

I think some people conflate subject isolation with "3D". They are not the same.

This is so true. I have a few lenses that will render that way on occasion and when it happens, I am usually pleasantly surprised. While related to subject isolation and foreground "pop", it has unique characteristics of its own. It appears to be a combination of moderate DOF, Good contrast, decent bokeh at moderate apertures, and composition to accentuate near-far; oh, and it is good to have a subject with obvious 3-D characteristics (i.e. depth). Of the lenses I use, there are a few that deliver in that regard with my KMZ Helios 44M 58/2.0 being at the top of the list.


Pentax K10D, Helios 44M 58/2.0


Steve

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[biz-engineer]

I think some people conflate subject isolation with "3D". They are not the same.

That's also what I think. Leading lines (perspective) transverse to the DoF make the subject (part in focus) pop out of the frame.

Pentax K10D, Helios 44M 58/2.0

The stem in that case is a leading line, gradually blurred , creates the 3D effect.

[tvdtvdtvd]

I think many lenses with 'soft corners' can give the illusion of 3d pop. Just one of many examples of how a 'flaw' can
be put to good, creative effect.

(That is a bizarre photo, one that I don't personally find appealing. It's not the matter of smoking, but the thickness
of the smoke, the fact that she's blowing it through her nostrils and forever frozen in time. It looks as much like she's
blowing grey milk through her nose.)

[stevebrot]

That's also what I think. Leading lines (perspective) transverse to the DoF make the subject (part in focus) pop out of the frame.


The stem in that case is a leading line, gradually blurred , creates the 3D effect.

Interesting observation. Overlap works too as do non-perspective "leading" features.

Here is another where perspective might be involved...




And couple where overlap is obvious


The 3-D on this one might be enhanced somewhat in post by applying a gradient to make the background "recede".








And one where there are leading lines/features, but without obvious perspective references




It seems there is more than one way to approach this, some of which may be enhanced by appropriate post-processing...give the subject "pop" and do magic to make the background recede. This thread is providing some grist for the mill.


Steve

(...did some enhancement in PP yesterday that inadvertently worked to create greater 3D effect...LINK...)

[stevebrot]

(That is a bizarre photo, one that I don't personally find appealing. It's not the matter of smoking, but the thickness
of the smoke, the fact that she's blowing it through her nostrils and forever frozen in time. It looks as much like she's
blowing grey milk through her nose.)

That was my thought too! Gag!


Steve

[stevebrot]

But on top of all that, this is the OP's first post in the forums. Specifically promoting a vaping website. Do I detect the odour of a rodent?

...nope, just chocolate spice potpourri with a hint of patchouli...


Steve