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05-01-2019, 11:38 PM   #16
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Started with Ricoh, well actually a "rebadged" Ricoh M42 screwmount film camera (a Sears TLS), which I just got a Vivitar 35mm f2.8 for it. Then have a Kalimar K-90, which is a K-mount camera (with a 50mm f1.7).
Dont really "plan" on getting anything else, maybe a folding camera but Im pretty much set with what I have. Well, may need a M42-to-Kmount adapter but thats for another day


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For me, Pentax has always done the job. What I have been shooting, may of changed over the years, also the jump to digital, it was simply easier because I already had Pentax glass, And so no need to swap, really, every reason to stay with Pentax. Plus, I just like the way Pentax feel in the hands, all my Pentax cameras feel "real" I have held friends cameras at times, and well, they just don't have the same solid feel as mine, many have commented exactly on that when picking up and holding my camera.

The only time I considered a different brands was a few years ago, looking to get a Super telephoto, couldn't find a Sigma 500/4.5 in Australia, and even hard to source overseas,I would have been more than happy with the Sigma, always said, it's a shame sigma don't make the new 500/4 sport in a Pentax mount. But eventually,I found a Great piece of Legacy Glass here on the forum, and together with now with the 150-450 zoom, all bases are covered in that area.

I know the system, I know the menus, I know the quirks, I know the limitations, I know the strengths. Maybe, I also like being a bit different out there in the crowd. And at the end of the day,I can take photos I am happy with.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
2. I am too lazy to learn how to use another system
I'm learning all the time, willing to adapt to a new system wouldn't be much of an issue for me. That said, I am no aware of a camera system other than Pentax that is so ergonomic with easy access to the most frequently used shooting parameters. Canon/Nikon DSLR ergonomics are also very good , but access to exposure parameters not as easy as Pentax. Now with the mirrorless it is even worse. On the EOS R there is no dial to set an exposure compensation, and the ergonomics of the EOS R isn't as good as it used to be on Canon DSLRs, same story for Nikon Z, not to mention Sony. For me, switching systems would be a step backwards in terms of usability, that would take some joy away from what I'm used with Pentax.
05-02-2019, 12:29 AM   #19
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I've always used Pentax, since my first camera in 1983, and I have no inclination to change - I'm used to the foibles and I love the look of Pentax images (camera and lens). I've no doubt there are better cameras for some purposes, but those are more specialist than my photography is. The only time I considered changing was when I wanted FF digital - then the K-1 came along

05-02-2019, 02:59 AM   #20
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All systems are good these days, including Pentax. Pentax ticks at least as many boxes on my "needs and wants" list as any other single system so there's no need to go anywhere. Add to that the cost and inconvenience of replacing what I have and it makes even less sense.

I might "need" to add another system to fill in some unticked boxes at some point but that would probably be the case no matter what my primary system was.

As for unreliable transport (since Ford was mentioned), there is none that ticks all the boxes on my list (cheap, sturdy, reliable, small and nimble, huge load capacity - and these days it must be mirrorless, right?). So I have none. I rent the one I need when I need it. Works very well - I always have the vehicle best suited to the needs of the day. Saves me a lot of money, too.
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For me, it is about the Pentax glass. It works well for my style of shooting and I am pleased with it. I don't really spend a lot of time gazing over the fence at my neighbor's yard and thinking about how green his grass is, nor do I think about how much better my photos would be if I could just afford a Z7 and (to this point mythical) set of lenses for it.

If I truly thought that my gear was holding me back from some sort of photographic nirvana I would think about switching, but I have seen enough folks switch to know that that isn't the case. When you get a new camera, you just end up taking similar photos with different gear.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
If I truly thought that my gear was holding me back from some sort of photographic nirvana I would think about switching, but I have seen enough folks switch to know that that isn't the case. When you get a new camera, you just end up taking similar photos with different gear.
“Rob the average man of his life-illusion, and you rob him of his happiness at the same stroke.”
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People buy Fords? I thought they just Found them, On a Road, Dead...
You could stay with what you have and Fix it Again Tony

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Actually, when you consider what most camera manufacturers offer in digital cameras, there is very little reason to move from one manufacturer to the other.

Sure there are some small differences, for example in flash, and in some extremes, I guess AF performance, but neither have really let me down.

I got into Pentax because when I started shooting film, Pentax cameras were the best value for the money. I long recognized lenses were more important in the long run, so I stayed with Pentax, through MF manual bodies, auto exposure bodies, AF film bodies, cropped sensor digital bodies, and finally to full frame digital, in addition to a Q with the Pentax K adaptor

Everything I ever bought I still own (I admit I am a bit of a gear hoarder), and remarkably, except for a sigma APO EX 2x teleconverter that had the mounting flange bend when I dropped but saved with the camera strap the 70-200/2.8 lens and camera it was attached to, still works.

The whole collection, 60 lenses, 3 film bodies, and now 5 DSLRs is a system, and while I perhaps only shoot a few rolls of film annually, my digital bodies all still get regular use. Some bodies do certain things better than others, and the *istD for example has the best flash system, of all of them. Even if the image processing by today’s standards is very Sloooooooow.

For me unless there is a compelling reason to change, the K1MK2 might be the last camera I ever buy.

What would make me change?

- Pentax goes out of business AND my gear becomes unusable
- I branch out in my photography beyond what I do now, AND what I use now simply cannot take the shots I want
- I am no longer physically able to use my present gear (too heavy or I become limited physically)

But changing gear for the sake of change is a waste, and given the ever shrinking camera market Pentax is probably now just the right size to be sustainable, I am not sure about the others.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
For me, it is about the Pentax glass. It works well for my style of shooting and I am pleased with it. I don't really spend a lot of time gazing over the fence at my neighbor's yard and thinking about how green his grass is.
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“Rob the average man of his life-illusion, and you rob him of his happiness at the same stroke.”
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There is a great quote from a Tom Clancy book. “Even if your belly is full you will sometimes take an apple from your neighbours’ tree, just to see if it tastes better”
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
Yeah, many of their "trucks" are some sort of "cross-over" - an SUV with auto-like characteristics.

That would be sort of like Pentax releasing a camera with a hybrid viewfinder - hard to give a meaningful classification to.
Crossovers are that new Olympus M43 camera that's bigger and heavier than a K-1. You might come up with some niche use cases where it kind of makes sense, but in general a crossover is worse at handing and efficiency and styling than a car, and way worse than a truck at hauling stuff or going off-road. Marketing for the Ford Escape should be "Slightly more nimble than an F250, slightly more space than a Fiesta!"

A K-3 III with a hybrid viewfinder is an Audi Avant or a Volvo Polestar wagon.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
So, why will I not buy another camera brand:

1. I can't afford to switch system - too much invested already
2. I am too lazy to learn how to use another system

How about you ?
The primary reason can be summed up with the fact I bought very good quality used copies of the DA 15, 21, and 40 limited lenses for a total of $700.
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I've been using Pentax since 67. It's unlikely I'll switch. I've had a Mamiya 645, a few Minolta water sealed film cameras, and currently a Nikon 130W (big mistake. I can't describe how much this camera irritates me.) I tend to buy cameras for the purpose I intend to use them for, as opposed to one size fits all. So for me switching brands would be counter-productive. If I need something else I'll buy something else. But, that won't mean dumping Pentax. My Pentax cameras will always do what I bought them for, and I'm way beyond the whole mid life crisis type "I have to switch things up because I'm shallow and bored" stage of life.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
So, why will I not buy another camera brand:

1. I can't afford to switch system - too much invested already
2. I am too lazy to learn how to use another system

How about you ?
Agreed. K20D, K-01, K30, now KP...and more lenses than I can carry. Pentax has worked very well for me, still seems like most bang for the buck.
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Another brand does not offer anything I don't already have, need or want. My three Pentax bodies, K50, K3 and K1, have all the tricky stuff I require, what would be the point, other than spending a lot of money.
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Next weekend I'm going to go see Carlton v Collingwood at the Melbourne Cricket Ground. (Trust me. This is a really big deal in Australia). I'm taking a Lumix M43 with a 45-150 lens (300mm equivalent). If it was full frame or APSC I'd probably be stopped at the gate because the setup would be just too big so it would be categorised as 'professional' or a security risk. But I will be using the K1 for everything else eg Melbourne lanes, architecture, interiors. In photography there are horse for courses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
For me, it is about the Pentax glass. It works well for my style of shooting and I am pleased with it. I don't really spend a lot of time gazing over the fence at my neighbor's yard and thinking about how green his grass is, nor do I think about how much better my photos would be if I could just afford a Z7 and (to this point mythical) set of lenses for it.

If I truly thought that my gear was holding me back from some sort of photographic nirvana I would think about switching, but I have seen enough folks switch to know that that isn't the case. When you get a new camera, you just end up taking similar photos with different gear.
Agree with this completely. The value of the lenses (i.e., best product for least cost ratio) has been the kicker for me, as if the camera were just something to hold up the lens; really, it has to be "good enough" but the lens has to be terrific. Perfect for Ricoh which is, after, an optics company.

I'm not in the Hasselblad league, and Sony, with Zeiss lenses meet the lens criterion, but the cameras aren't "good enough" by my lights - designed for primarily for people who want to take the kids to theme parks. Leaving Nikon and Pentax, essentially, and Pentax is a lot less expensive. Canon makes great cameras, but the lenses are a notch behind N and P, I think. Olympus, Panasonic, Fujifilm, etc., not quite good enough; not bad, but not quite there. Great for tourists.

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If I had to start over from scratch, I would probably go with Canon or Nicon. There are just so many more options with those 2 marques.
Nikor glass...Kirk B.
Me, too. Well, not Canon. Someone said something about the possibility of Ricoh shutting down Pentax, and I suppose that could happen, though I don't think their corporate culture will let them as long as there are Pentax engineers who keep coming up with great stuff. But the fact is, it's only half-a-business, now. In my experience, there's no aftermarket support that's worth anything (and that's not Precision's fault). The information they do provide is incomplete and badly translated. If you can't get answers to sensible questions, and the warranty's not worth the paper it's written on, well... I'm going with Nikon next time. The stuff I've got is good and will last me for years, but sooner or later, the stuff will break down or get flaky, and when it does, I'll sell it to people who collect antique cameras.

By the way, I started out with VW's (types one (bug) and two (squareback and variant)), and moved from there into the world of Chevy/GMC. I did own a couple of Fords, along the way, and they worked ok, but I didn't love them. Back in the day, before the Republican Party created the Environmental Protection Agency, you could make pretty much whatever modifications you wanted subject to state inspection rules, and there was a world of aftermarket accessories for GMC products, and especially Chevys. Enormous carburetors, racing-timed camshafts, dual exhaust... I had a great time. I still have a couple of GMC Suburbans, circa 1990, that I like to play with. But for practical use, we're an all-Nissan family now, because cars, like televisions, have become disposable commodities. No point in even buying the shop manual for 'em, much less attempting to increase the horsepower of the engine.
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To expensive to do a wholesale change. And really no reason. I love the IQ, build and camera layout. It just works for me and has since 1983. No other bodies in my camera cabinet but Pentax.
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