SmugMUG really dropped the ball with this Flickr maintenance

**UncleVanya** · 05-23-2019, 07:28 PM

As someone who works in IT I can safely say this isn't how I would do an upgrade. But my industry has a lot more regulation and oversight.

I am curious what the change entailed and why a complete outage rather than some phased upgrade was the approach.

**pepperberry farm** · 05-23-2019, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

They used time estimates from a Microsoft Windows progress bar. It probably got to 99% in twelve hours and they thought "great, we're just one cup of coffee away from done."

perfect.. bravo...

**aslyfox** · 05-23-2019, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

They used time estimates from a Microsoft Windows progress bar. It probably got to 99% in twelve hours and they thought "great, we're just one cup of coffee away from done."

remind me of something, what is it, trying to remember, oh, I know:

" here we sit like birds in the wilderness "

Songs For Scouts - Here We Sit

stevebrot · 05-23-2019, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I am curious what the change entailed and why a complete outage rather than some phased upgrade was the approach.

It was not an upgrade. They did a migration from Yahoo's datacenters to AWS. A shutdown is pretty much inevitable due to synchronization needs. I suspect that more than a few non-portable hacks were encountered during the process.

Steve

**aslyfox** · 05-23-2019, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

As someone who works in IT I can safely say this isn't how I would do an upgrade. But my industry has a lot more regulation and oversight.

I am curious what the change entailed and why a complete outage rather than some phased upgrade was the approach.

Planned maintenance and Flickr downtime | Flickr Blog

**UncleVanya** · 05-23-2019, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

It was not an upgrade. They did a migration from Yahoo's datacenters to AWS. A shutdown is pretty much inevitable due to synchronization needs. I suspect that more than a few non-portable hacks were encountered during the process.

Steve

$ and time are harsh mistresses.

**THoog** · 05-23-2019, 08:12 PM

My flickr page is up.

Given how long it takes to move mere terabytes between our crappy servers at work, I hate to think about moving hundreds of petabytes between hosting services, even with the monster servers and networks they must be running.

**aslyfox** · 05-23-2019, 08:20 PM

I got access to my stuff as well

works on lap top, Samsung Nook and S10 + phone

**monochrome** · 05-23-2019, 08:23 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by UncleVanya

As someone who works in IT I can safely say this isn't how I would do an upgrade. But my industry has a lot more regulation and oversight.

I am curious what the change entailed and why a complete outage rather than some phased upgrade was the approach.

Have you ever tried to drive a billion anything across town?

timb64 · 05-24-2019, 12:56 AM

Still down for me ,despite getting their blog saying everything is up and running.Will just try clearing my cache and see if that helps.

Edit. Hmm...can access it on my iPad mini running iOS 12.3 but not my iPhone 6s also on 12.3 or an older iPad on 9.3.5.Expect I’ll just have to be patient!

**UncleVanya** · 05-24-2019, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Have you ever tried to drive a billion anything across town?

Yes... Terabytes. Over timezones.

Dartmoor Dave · 05-24-2019, 02:13 AM - **1 Like**

I've just logged in with no problem. It's definitely faster than before, and it seems to me that my photos at full screen on Flickr now look closer to the way the originals look on my monitor. I always used to feel there was a slight loss of sharpness and detail before. The minor inconvenience yesterday seems worth it.

**Rondec** · 05-24-2019, 02:29 AM - **2 Likes**

I guess someone needs to start tagging people as safe...

#survivedFlickrmigration #soblessed

**aslyfox** · 05-24-2019, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by timb64

Still down for me ,despite getting their blog saying everything is up and running.Will just try clearing my cache and see if that helps.

Edit. Hmm...can access it on my iPad mini running iOS 12.3 but not my iPhone 6s also on 12.3 or an older iPad on 9.3.5.Expect I’ll just have to be patient!

if you follow this link

Planned maintenance and Flickr downtime | Flickr Blog

and go to the very bottom, it talks about the process and anticipated problems.

perhaps it will explain why you are having problems ???

**baro-nite** · 05-24-2019, 03:59 AM

Not complaining; it's a good sign they have restored partial functionality. Hoping this is fixed soon:

05-23-2019, 08:20 PM	#23
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	I got access to my stuff as well works on lap top, Samsung Nook and S10 + phone Last edited by aslyfox; 05-24-2019 at 02:54 AM.

05-24-2019, 12:56 AM	#25
timb64 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: /Situation : Doing my best to avoid idiots! Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,510	Still down for me ,despite getting their blog saying everything is up and running.Will just try clearing my cache and see if that helps. Edit. Hmm...can access it on my iPad mini running iOS 12.3 but not my iPhone 6s also on 12.3 or an older iPad on 9.3.5.Expect I’ll just have to be patient! Last edited by timb64; 05-24-2019 at 01:13 AM.

05-24-2019, 03:59 AM	#30
baro-nite Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Carolina, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,294	Not complaining; it's a good sign they have restored partial functionality. Hoping this is fixed soon: Attached Images

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05-23-2019, 07:28 PM	#16
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	As someone who works in IT I can safely say this isn't how I would do an upgrade. But my industry has a lot more regulation and oversight. I am curious what the change entailed and why a complete outage rather than some phased upgrade was the approach.

05-23-2019, 07:29 PM	#17
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,660	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave They used time estimates from a Microsoft Windows progress bar. It probably got to 99% in twelve hours and they thought "great, we're just one cup of coffee away from done." perfect.. bravo...

05-23-2019, 07:30 PM	#18
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave They used time estimates from a Microsoft Windows progress bar. It probably got to 99% in twelve hours and they thought "great, we're just one cup of coffee away from done." remind me of something, what is it, trying to remember, oh, I know: " here we sit like birds in the wilderness " Songs For Scouts - Here We Sit

05-23-2019, 07:39 PM	#19
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by UncleVanya I am curious what the change entailed and why a complete outage rather than some phased upgrade was the approach. It was not an upgrade. They did a migration from Yahoo's datacenters to AWS. A shutdown is pretty much inevitable due to synchronization needs. I suspect that more than a few non-portable hacks were encountered during the process. Steve

05-23-2019, 07:41 PM	#20
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by UncleVanya As someone who works in IT I can safely say this isn't how I would do an upgrade. But my industry has a lot more regulation and oversight. I am curious what the change entailed and why a complete outage rather than some phased upgrade was the approach. Planned maintenance and Flickr downtime \| Flickr Blog

05-23-2019, 08:00 PM	#21
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	Originally posted by stevebrot It was not an upgrade. They did a migration from Yahoo's datacenters to AWS. A shutdown is pretty much inevitable due to synchronization needs. I suspect that more than a few non-portable hacks were encountered during the process. Steve $ and time are harsh mistresses.

05-23-2019, 08:12 PM	#22
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	My flickr page is up. Given how long it takes to move mere terabytes between our crappy servers at work, I hate to think about moving hundreds of petabytes between hosting services, even with the monster servers and networks they must be running.

05-23-2019, 08:23 PM - 2 Likes	#24
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by UncleVanya As someone who works in IT I can safely say this isn't how I would do an upgrade. But my industry has a lot more regulation and oversight. I am curious what the change entailed and why a complete outage rather than some phased upgrade was the approach. Have you ever tried to drive a billion anything across town?

05-24-2019, 01:04 AM	#26
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	Originally posted by monochrome Have you ever tried to drive a billion anything across town? Yes... Terabytes. Over timezones.

05-24-2019, 02:13 AM - 1 Like	#27
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,882	I've just logged in with no problem. It's definitely faster than before, and it seems to me that my photos at full screen on Flickr now look closer to the way the originals look on my monitor. I always used to feel there was a slight loss of sharpness and detail before. The minor inconvenience yesterday seems worth it.

05-24-2019, 02:29 AM - 2 Likes	#28
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	I guess someone needs to start tagging people as safe... #survivedFlickrmigration #soblessed

05-24-2019, 02:30 AM	#29
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by timb64 Still down for me ,despite getting their blog saying everything is up and running.Will just try clearing my cache and see if that helps. Edit. Hmm...can access it on my iPad mini running iOS 12.3 but not my iPhone 6s also on 12.3 or an older iPad on 9.3.5.Expect I’ll just have to be patient! if you follow this link Planned maintenance and Flickr downtime \| Flickr Blog and go to the very bottom, it talks about the process and anticipated problems. perhaps it will explain why you are having problems ???