Originally posted by ZombieArmy: This forum is nothing compared to the hellscape that is youtube. DPR/Jared/Others are borderline toxic when it comes to DSLRs.
I remember a small snippet I saw of Jared doing a piece on the 90d and M6 Mark 2 and he, no joke, said he didn't want to use the screen on the back of the 90d for a scene where it would have been advantageous because he thought it didn't look pro. That is just sickening to me. Mirrorless users are the ones who really need to get a grip on reasons for both existing.
Originally posted by ZombieArmy: I own a Q and a GH2 as well (for video). I'm negative at people pushing mirrorless like DSLR can not do the same things, and sorry I don't have all the time in the world to respond to everyone (I had left soon after my 1 or 2 replies). I think the biggest enemy isn't someone like me it's the ape like youtube influencers who make mirrorless enthusiasts look like jackasses by basically insinuating that anyone who hasn't switched is an idiot. Or that anything with a mirror is from the stoneage and lacks modern features.
I'm sure you can understand why some would be apprehensive about that, this is not to imply that no one should own mirrorless or that I'm anti mirrorless. I'm just frustrated being put down by a large part of the photographic community for preferring an OVF.
My main argument is that besides flange distance there isn't much a mirrorless could do that a dslr couldn't. Especially if the ideas of a hybrid finder come into play.
Personally I think both options can exist just fine side by side, but it's hard to hold that opinion these days with people spouting what the "future" is at you.
Reading certain aspects of your posts, I think this is, with respect, more about your frustration at a small but vocal portion of mirrorless shooters - especially those with a highly public profile, such as popular vloggers, reviewers, even prolific forum posters with strongly-held opinions - throwing shade at your chosen camera technology, and hence at you. But this is nothing new, and it's not really to do with mirrorless or DSLR. Before MILCs even existed, this tribalism was evident in DSLR brand vs brand comparisons and discussions. It's happening right now, to some extent, in the recent Sigma-related threads (if you've read them) - some folks completely discounting Sigma glass out of hand as rubbish, others having chosen Pentax way back when because of the very availability of Sigma lenses in K-mount. Outside of photography, it happened (still happens) between drivers of Ford / Chevrolet / Chrysler automobiles. IMHO, though, these folks are a tiny proportion of a much wider population that otherwise just quietly gets on and drives what it wants to drive, shoots what it wants to shoot.
I don't watch a lot of YouTube vloggers, and I pay little heed to their individual opinions. They can be entertaining, on occasion, and I've gained a few useful snippets of information from them over the years, but that's about all. I don't frequent lots of forums either - this is the only one I regularly take part in, mostly because I really enjoy it but also since I help to moderate it (those two aspects don't always go hand in hand
). I don't even have accounts at the other big forums, though I might occasionally read a few posts at DPR and others if they come up in my Google searches. Everybody on forums has an opinion on gear, and often those opinions will differ from mine. There are some members here whose opinions I've come to value over the years, and I've learned a great deal with their help, but I don't always agree with them or subscribe to
all of their views (often I don't) - and that's fine; variety is the spice of life. As such, I don't care what anyone thinks of the gear I choose to shoot - new or old, DSLR or mirrorless. I'll occasionally explain my choices or opinions to provide balance to an otherwise-biased discussion, but never because I feel offended or the need to defend myself or my kit.
I have a few more years under my belt than you. I claim no greater wisdom in that respect, but my advice - for what it's worth - is, pay no heed to extreme black or white views from anyone, even if they're folks you otherwise respect. Heavily polarised views - those that dismiss the possible validity of alternative and/or opposing views - are often grounded in very personal preferences. Otherwise, they can be due to defensiveness, insecurity, self-validation and self-reassurance, or simply a desire to belong to a like-minded or popular group (strength in numbers
).
Do listen to folks with balanced views and those who demonstrate some open-mindedness, even if some preference or bias is evident, as their views are more likely to be based on rational thought and reason rather than emotion. And try not to get dragged into the very tribalism that frustrates you.
I'm not a religious man, but one of many biblical quotes I'm fond of in a non-religious context is:
"Wherefore come out from among them and be ye separate"