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**boriscleto** · 09-23-2019, 09:30 AM - **3 Likes**

The Clash of Palladium and Silver

Taken with a Pentax ES II...

**BWG** · 09-23-2019, 09:53 AM - **2 Likes**

SSGGeezer · 09-23-2019, 10:10 AM - **1 Like**

Love the story of how it was chosen for the cover of an amazing album! Some of the art school jibber jabber in the geometry section was a bit excessive but it does explain how that image works so well. The uncropped original is even more interesting to my eyes.

stevebrot · 09-23-2019, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by SSGGeezer

The uncropped original is even more interesting to my eyes.

Agreed...the composition is spot on.

Steve

**Kevin B123** · 09-23-2019, 10:36 AM

As with the first sensible comment on there, I prefer the small uncropped version more. I also viewed the authors fine work. TFS

**Kevin B123** · 09-23-2019, 10:38 AM

There are two threads on this now. Agree with the comments so far

ChristianRock · 09-23-2019, 11:29 AM

I like the original uncropped version as a photograph, though the square crop worked extremely well for the album cover.

The saddest thing might not be that photography like that basically doesn't exist anymore (now everything has to be pin-sharp edge to edge (or have gorgeous gorgeous bokeh), and follow all these rules.

No, the saddest thing is that whenever a guitar is played on a song anywhere, most kids will roll their eyes and shake their heads in disgust. Guitars (and rock and roll) just aren't "cool" anymore. If guitars are to be played, they better be way in the background providing the "glue" to the music, that synth pads used to...

**SteveinSLC** · 09-23-2019, 11:42 AM - **2 Likes**

My favorite band, and I have a wrapped copy of London Calling displayed on a shelf because I like the album and the photo so much.

That said, I'm of the opinion that the article goes rapidly downhill when the writer attempts to explain the importance of angles in the photo. Sounds like the photo was in many ways a lucky accident, so the photographer certainly wasn't trying to capture him as a triangle. And punk was expressly a protest against the formalism and conservativism of classic/prog rock. Quite sure Strummer would have had nothing to do with that kind of analysis and focused instead on the emotion captured in that moment.

**Suhail** · 09-23-2019, 12:10 PM

Super-mega-awesome!

**gaweidert** · 09-23-2019, 12:14 PM - **1 Like**

Well, I'm 68 and never heard of the band. Of course in 1979 we had our first child, I was mortgaged up to my ears and working 60 hours a week. Music was far from my life at that point.

Very good photograph though wanton destruction of perfectly good equipment is not an environmentally friendly thing to do.

**luftfluss** · 09-23-2019, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by gaweidert

Well, I'm 68 and never heard of the band. Of course in 1979 we had our first child, I was mortgaged up to my ears and working 60 hours a week. Music was far from my life at that point.

Very good photograph though wanton destruction of perfectly good equipment is not an environmentally friendly thing to do.

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swanlefitte · 09-23-2019, 02:15 PM - **1 Like**

I see that photo and the guitar opening of "London Calling" is in my head. The photo matches those chords of dystopia perfectly. I like the uncropped even better.

**boriscleto** · 09-23-2019, 02:54 PM - **3 Likes**

Ah, tell me.
How much did you pay for the chunk of his guitar,
The one he ruthlessly smashed at the end of the show?
And how much will he pay for a brand new guitar,
One which he'll ruthlessly smash at the end of another show?
And how long will the workers keep building him new ones?
As long as their soda cans are red, white, and blue ones.
And how long will the workers keep building him new ones?
As long as their soda cans are red, white, and blue ones.

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35mmfilmfan · 09-23-2019, 03:37 PM

" Perhaps the most egregious offense of all is the long vertical hard water stain snaking its way up nearly the entire left side of the frame. This shoddy development artifact is accompanied by a few other less prominent but visible bits of evidence of the handcrafted nature of the image. This is simply inappropriate for proper rock photography! "

Someone has not understood what Rock and Roll has been about all its life - Breaking Rules !

**ffking** · 09-28-2019, 07:41 AM - **2 Likes**

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SteveinSLC Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 568	My favorite band, and I have a wrapped copy of London Calling displayed on a shelf because I like the album and the photo so much. That said, I'm of the opinion that the article goes rapidly downhill when the writer attempts to explain the importance of angles in the photo. Sounds like the photo was in many ways a lucky accident, so the photographer certainly wasn't trying to capture him as a triangle. And punk was expressly a protest against the formalism and conservativism of classic/prog rock. Quite sure Strummer would have had nothing to do with that kind of analysis and focused instead on the emotion captured in that moment.

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