What are your DSLR dealbreakers?

camera_nut · 02-10-2020, 07:32 PM - **1 Like**

Here are mine. l won't buy a body that doesn't have front/back focus correct for multiple lenses. Over the last 20 years since l've been into photography, l've had several film and digital SLRs that would front or back focus with certain lenses. l won't buy a body that has a rear screen less than 2.7 inches or less than 5 MP(those are non issues with anything less than about 12 years old). lf it doesn't have live view, it's a no go for me. l use LV with the image zoomed in for critical focus in close up photography when on a tripod. l won't buy a camera that has no viewfinder(but that's a mirrorless issue). No supersized bodies with a "built in" vertical grip that can't be removed. And full frame is out-they cost too much. What are yours?

MarkJerling · 02-10-2020, 08:48 PM - **15 Likes**

Originally posted by camera_nut

What are yours?

Well, pretty much, if it does not say "Pentax" somewhere on it!

**UncleVanya** · 02-10-2020, 08:51 PM

I won't buy a DSLR that is designed to use Canon lenses. This has no technical basis it is personal. I also don't care for their interface. I'm certain I could find my way past the interface without too much trouble but the personal dislike of that company isn't going away.

**Bruce Clark** · 02-10-2020, 09:03 PM - **4 Likes**

No 1 wife.

bertwert · 02-10-2020, 09:04 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Well, pretty much, if it does not say "Pentax" somewhere on it!

And along with that - if it doesn't have a K-mount!

E-man · 02-10-2020, 09:08 PM - **5 Likes**

The biggie for me is it has to have an optical viewfinder. I don't use the rear screen as a viewfinder.

Steve Beswick · 02-10-2020, 09:50 PM - **1 Like**

I used to be a diehard Pentax only guy, but I eventually tried other brands. Now I can’t stand using a camera that doesn’t have a front control wheel. I couldn’t care less if it has a rear one. I care far more about the size of the viewfinder than the size of the screen. I have mirrorless cameras that are screen only, and I can usually live with them, but live view on a DSLR always finds a way to intensely frustrate me.

**monochrome** · 02-10-2020, 10:00 PM - **3 Likes**

A Pentamirror is a deal breaker.

**dms** · 02-10-2020, 10:22 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I won't buy a DSLR that is designed to use Canon lenses. This has no technical basis it is personal. I also don't care for their interface. I'm certain I could find my way past the interface without too much trouble but the personal dislike of that company isn't going away.

I also will not purchase a Canon camera or lens. Probably mostly because of their going to a wholly new lens mount, and thus making prior lenses obsolete (not that I had Canon camera, but I could have!). More than that I have not (in the last 4 or 5 decades) purchased anything other than Pentax or Nikon camera/DSLR, and I have confidence in them and find they take much care with human-camera ergonomics.

Sandy Hancock · 02-10-2020, 10:43 PM - **3 Likes**

@MarkJerling beat me to it. Although I made an exception for my GR III and Theta Z1

Steve Beswick · 02-10-2020, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by dms

I also will not purchase a Canon camera or lens. Probably mostly because of their going to a wholly new lens mount, and thus making prior lenses obsolete (not that I had Canon camera, but I could have!). More than that I have not (in the last 4 or 5 decades) purchased anything other than Pentax or Nikon camera/DSLR, and I have confidence in them and find they take much care with human-camera ergonomics.

So you won’t buy a Canon in 2020 because they did something kinda crappy in the 1980’s?

**dms** · 02-10-2020, 11:24 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Steve Beswick

So you won’t buy a Canon in 2020 because they did something kinda crappy in the 1980’s?

Absolutely.

**microlight** · 02-10-2020, 11:34 PM - **1 Like**

I’d have said I could live without live view - until I discovered how good the face detect mode is! After four years with the K-3II, I would now find it difficult to live without GPS tagging.

noelpolar · 02-10-2020, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by dms

Absolutely.

I'm a bit like that.... life is to short to forgive something... move on.... and let it be (unless critical for some reason).

Anyway... my deal breaker is guilt..... if I feel I've spent to much recently I stop myself from buying the umpteenth thing I lust after, but don't need at all.

camera_nut · 02-11-2020, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by Steve Beswick

So you won’t buy a Canon in 2020 because they did something kinda crappy in the 1980’s?

First l thought they were talking about the recent change from thee EF to R mount.

02-10-2020, 07:32 PM - 1 Like	#1
camera_nut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: North Houston, TX Posts: 155	What are your DSLR dealbreakers? Here are mine. l won't buy a body that doesn't have front/back focus correct for multiple lenses. Over the last 20 years since l've been into photography, l've had several film and digital SLRs that would front or back focus with certain lenses. l won't buy a body that has a rear screen less than 2.7 inches or less than 5 MP(those are non issues with anything less than about 12 years old). lf it doesn't have live view, it's a no go for me. l use LV with the image zoomed in for critical focus in close up photography when on a tripod. l won't buy a camera that has no viewfinder(but that's a mirrorless issue). No supersized bodies with a "built in" vertical grip that can't be removed. And full frame is out-they cost too much. What are yours?

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02-10-2020, 08:48 PM - 15 Likes	#2
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by camera_nut What are yours? Well, pretty much, if it does not say "Pentax" somewhere on it!

02-10-2020, 08:51 PM	#3
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	I won't buy a DSLR that is designed to use Canon lenses. This has no technical basis it is personal. I also don't care for their interface. I'm certain I could find my way past the interface without too much trouble but the personal dislike of that company isn't going away.

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Bruce Clark Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ocean Grove, Victoria Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,458	No 1 wife.

02-10-2020, 09:04 PM - 2 Likes	#5
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173	Originally posted by MarkJerling Well, pretty much, if it does not say "Pentax" somewhere on it! And along with that - if it doesn't have a K-mount!

02-10-2020, 09:08 PM - 5 Likes	#6
E-man Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 678	The biggie for me is it has to have an optical viewfinder. I don't use the rear screen as a viewfinder.

02-10-2020, 09:50 PM - 1 Like	#7
Steve Beswick Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ontario, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,736	I used to be a diehard Pentax only guy, but I eventually tried other brands. Now I can’t stand using a camera that doesn’t have a front control wheel. I couldn’t care less if it has a rear one. I care far more about the size of the viewfinder than the size of the screen. I have mirrorless cameras that are screen only, and I can usually live with them, but live view on a DSLR always finds a way to intensely frustrate me.

02-10-2020, 10:00 PM - 3 Likes	#8
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	A Pentamirror is a deal breaker.

02-10-2020, 10:22 PM - 1 Like	#9
dms Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,192	Originally posted by UncleVanya I won't buy a DSLR that is designed to use Canon lenses. This has no technical basis it is personal. I also don't care for their interface. I'm certain I could find my way past the interface without too much trouble but the personal dislike of that company isn't going away. I also will not purchase a Canon camera or lens. Probably mostly because of their going to a wholly new lens mount, and thus making prior lenses obsolete (not that I had Canon camera, but I could have!). More than that I have not (in the last 4 or 5 decades) purchased anything other than Pentax or Nikon camera/DSLR, and I have confidence in them and find they take much care with human-camera ergonomics.

02-10-2020, 10:43 PM - 3 Likes	#10
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	@MarkJerling beat me to it. Although I made an exception for my GR III and Theta Z1

02-10-2020, 10:59 PM	#11
Steve Beswick Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ontario, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,736	Originally posted by dms I also will not purchase a Canon camera or lens. Probably mostly because of their going to a wholly new lens mount, and thus making prior lenses obsolete (not that I had Canon camera, but I could have!). More than that I have not (in the last 4 or 5 decades) purchased anything other than Pentax or Nikon camera/DSLR, and I have confidence in them and find they take much care with human-camera ergonomics. So you won’t buy a Canon in 2020 because they did something kinda crappy in the 1980’s?

02-10-2020, 11:24 PM - 3 Likes	#12
dms Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,192	Originally posted by Steve Beswick So you won’t buy a Canon in 2020 because they did something kinda crappy in the 1980’s? Absolutely.

02-10-2020, 11:34 PM - 1 Like	#13
microlight Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,129	I’d have said I could live without live view - until I discovered how good the face detect mode is! After four years with the K-3II, I would now find it difficult to live without GPS tagging.

02-10-2020, 11:40 PM	#14
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by dms Absolutely. I'm a bit like that.... life is to short to forgive something... move on.... and let it be (unless critical for some reason). Anyway... my deal breaker is guilt..... if I feel I've spent to much recently I stop myself from buying the umpteenth thing I lust after, but don't need at all.

02-11-2020, 12:17 AM	#15
camera_nut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: North Houston, TX Posts: 155 Original Poster	Originally posted by Steve Beswick So you won’t buy a Canon in 2020 because they did something kinda crappy in the 1980’s? First l thought they were talking about the recent change from thee EF to R mount.