The new Nikon Zfc - Retro mirrorless

**i_trax** · 07-22-2021, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's the Nikkor 45mm f/2.8P.

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/45-p/D3S_5313-600.jpg

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perhaps this will work:

Nikon 45mm f/2.8 P

**Serkevan** · 07-22-2021, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by i_trax

Error 1011 Ray ID: 672b3afd4cd8fb6d • 2021-07-22 08:17:03 UTC
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perhaps this will work:

Nikon 45mm f/2.8 P

Huh, weird. I used it as a link because the image wasn't showing up, but the link works for me...

bdery · 07-22-2021, 05:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

I've recently considered selling all my gear to raise money to buy into a FF mirrorless system but there just isn't one that I like.

Nothing is perfect.

Originally posted by mee

I think the argument that full frame is bigger and heavier is not as convincing when we include mirrorless systems in the comparison.

As an owner of a Sony A7C, I have to agree. I got it for when the K-1 ii is too large to comfortably carry. I love the size and AF, but one needs to bear in mind the size of lenses. For wide angle there are benefits to mirrorlsss, for tele much less so. And at Pentax we are blessed with the compact Limited, which are small for the quality they offer.

Originally posted by Wheatfield

For the DA 40/2.8 lens to truly be equivalent to the old M series 40/2.8, it would need to be a 40/2 lens, and would be much larger.

Witness the FA 43 F1.9

Wheatfield · 07-22-2021, 08:12 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bdery

Nothing is perfect.

As an owner of a Sony A7C, I have to agree. I got it for when the K-1 ii is too large to comfortably carry. I love the size and AF, but one needs to bear in mind the size of lenses. For wide angle there are benefits to mirrorlsss, for tele much less so. And at Pentax we are blessed with the compact Limited, which are small for the quality they offer.

Witness the FA 43 F1.9

Bingo!.

Wasp · 07-22-2021, 08:54 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Serkevan

Huh, weird. I used it as a link because the image wasn't showing up, but the link works for me...

Guru Ken does not like it when we try to access his precious images directly.

Quote:

What happened?

The owner of this website (KenRockwell.com: Photography, Cameras and Taking Better Pictures) does not allow hotlinking to that resource (/nikon/images1/45-p/D3S_5313-600.jpg

Here is what the lens looks like, from another site. The image is almost identical to the one that Guru Ken uses.

bdery · 07-23-2021, 04:56 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Wasp

The image is almost identical to the one that Guru Ken uses.

Those colours look like they belong in a circus!

Ken Rockwell is anything but a guru...

Angelic Layer · 07-23-2021, 09:36 AM - **2 Likes**

They've just start shipping in Japan, and some people already got theirs.
Side by side comparison with J5 and DF.
Looks like the finishing is nice.

---------- Post added 24-07-21 at 12:40 AM ----------

Anyway, Z FC stands for Z series Fusion Casual.
This camera is aimed at the amateur/beginners consumer market.

**AgentL** · 07-23-2021, 09:59 AM

Ooo la la!

awscreo · 07-23-2021, 01:50 PM

I dig the retro aesthetic

**ehrwien** · 07-23-2021, 02:06 PM

I was about to ask which 1 that was, but when quoting I saw it is the J5. Is that a standard issue? Looks really great

**i_trax** · 07-23-2021, 03:14 PM

I never heard about J5 but still enjoy the Q

Angelic Layer · 07-23-2021, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by ehrwien

I was about to ask which 1 that was, but when quoting I saw it is the J5. Is that a standard issue? Looks really great

Yeah, too bad that the whole system was discontinued a while ago.

**i_trax** · 07-28-2021, 07:46 PM

The new ETA for my black / silver 16-50 kit is 05AUG,
just the body and 28mm kit the ETA still unknown .

pinholecam · 07-29-2021, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by Angelic Layer

They've just start shipping in Japan, and some people already got theirs.
Side by side comparison with J5 and DF.
Looks like the finishing is nice.

---------- Post added 24-07-21 at 12:40 AM ----------

Anyway, Z FC stands for Z series Fusion Casual.
This camera is aimed at the amateur/beginners consumer market.

Oh my! Why it can't be Pentax making one like this...

JPT · 07-29-2021, 05:08 AM

Looking at the marketing, Nikon is clearly marketing this camera to appeal to young women, but the joke is going round in Japan that this camera is proving to be irresistible to elderly gents (and not young women at all).

Mind you, that could be said about Pentax and almost all cameras. The Zfc looks like a nice camera wanting for lenses whoever might be tempted to buy it.

07-22-2021, 01:19 AM	#121
i_trax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,621	NOT working Originally posted by Serkevan I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's the Nikkor 45mm f/2.8P. https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/45-p/D3S_5313-600.jpg Error 1011 Ray ID: 672b3afd4cd8fb6d • 2021-07-22 08:17:03 UTC Access denied ---------- Post added 07-22-21 at 16:23 ---------- perhaps this will work: Nikon 45mm f/2.8 P

07-22-2021, 08:54 AM - 1 Like	#125
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,661	Originally posted by Serkevan Huh, weird. I used it as a link because the image wasn't showing up, but the link works for me... Guru Ken does not like it when we try to access his precious images directly. Quote: What happened? The owner of this website (KenRockwell.com: Photography, Cameras and Taking Better Pictures) does not allow hotlinking to that resource (/nikon/images1/45-p/D3S_5313-600.jpg Here is what the lens looks like, from another site. The image is almost identical to the one that Guru Ken uses. Last edited by Wasp; 07-22-2021 at 09:02 AM.

07-23-2021, 01:50 PM	#129
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	I dig the retro aesthetic Last edited by awscreo; 07-23-2021 at 03:55 PM.

07-28-2021, 07:46 PM	#133
i_trax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,621	more delays The new ETA for my black / silver 16-50 kit is 05AUG, just the body and 28mm kit the ETA still unknown .

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07-22-2021, 02:22 AM	#122
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by i_trax Error 1011 Ray ID: 672b3afd4cd8fb6d • 2021-07-22 08:17:03 UTC Access denied ---------- Post added 07-22-21 at 16:23 ---------- perhaps this will work: Nikon 45mm f/2.8 P Huh, weird. I used it as a link because the image wasn't showing up, but the link works for me...

07-22-2021, 05:34 AM - 1 Like	#123
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac I've recently considered selling all my gear to raise money to buy into a FF mirrorless system but there just isn't one that I like. Nothing is perfect. Originally posted by mee I think the argument that full frame is bigger and heavier is not as convincing when we include mirrorless systems in the comparison. As an owner of a Sony A7C, I have to agree. I got it for when the K-1 ii is too large to comfortably carry. I love the size and AF, but one needs to bear in mind the size of lenses. For wide angle there are benefits to mirrorlsss, for tele much less so. And at Pentax we are blessed with the compact Limited, which are small for the quality they offer. Originally posted by Wheatfield For the DA 40/2.8 lens to truly be equivalent to the old M series 40/2.8, it would need to be a 40/2 lens, and would be much larger. Witness the FA 43 F1.9

07-22-2021, 08:12 AM - 1 Like	#124
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by bdery Nothing is perfect. As an owner of a Sony A7C, I have to agree. I got it for when the K-1 ii is too large to comfortably carry. I love the size and AF, but one needs to bear in mind the size of lenses. For wide angle there are benefits to mirrorlsss, for tele much less so. And at Pentax we are blessed with the compact Limited, which are small for the quality they offer. Witness the FA 43 F1.9 Bingo!.

07-23-2021, 04:56 AM - 3 Likes	#126
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by Wasp The image is almost identical to the one that Guru Ken uses. Those colours look like they belong in a circus! Ken Rockwell is anything but a guru...

07-23-2021, 09:36 AM - 2 Likes	#127
Angelic Layer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 254 Original Poster	They've just start shipping in Japan, and some people already got theirs. Side by side comparison with J5 and DF. Looks like the finishing is nice. ---------- Post added 24-07-21 at 12:40 AM ---------- Anyway, Z FC stands for Z series Fusion Casual. This camera is aimed at the amateur/beginners consumer market.

07-23-2021, 09:59 AM	#128
AgentL Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Seattle Photos: Albums Posts: 1,756	Ooo la la!

07-23-2021, 02:06 PM	#130
ehrwien Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 2,782	I was about to ask which 1 that was, but when quoting I saw it is the J5. Is that a standard issue? Looks really great

07-23-2021, 03:14 PM	#131
i_trax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,621	I never heard about J5 but still enjoy the Q

07-23-2021, 08:39 PM	#132
Angelic Layer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 254 Original Poster	Originally posted by ehrwien I was about to ask which 1 that was, but when quoting I saw it is the J5. Is that a standard issue? Looks really great Yeah, too bad that the whole system was discontinued a while ago.

07-29-2021, 12:21 AM	#134
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Originally posted by Angelic Layer They've just start shipping in Japan, and some people already got theirs. Side by side comparison with J5 and DF. Looks like the finishing is nice. ---------- Post added 24-07-21 at 12:40 AM ---------- Anyway, Z FC stands for Z series Fusion Casual. This camera is aimed at the amateur/beginners consumer market. Oh my! Why it can't be Pentax making one like this...

07-29-2021, 05:08 AM	#135
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Looking at the marketing, Nikon is clearly marketing this camera to appeal to young women, but the joke is going round in Japan that this camera is proving to be irresistible to elderly gents (and not young women at all). Mind you, that could be said about Pentax and almost all cameras. The Zfc looks like a nice camera wanting for lenses whoever might be tempted to buy it.