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**aslyfox** · 10-29-2021, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

. . . Several years ago I read an account . . .

news alert

not everything read ends up being true when you track it down

anything is possible

" cash award " sounds like if the story is true, it was a civil lawsuit

not the possibility of a criminal prosecution which is what I was discussing

**aslyfox** · 10-29-2021, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by vonBaloney

If you are chasing somebody and hurt them, it doesn't matter why you are chasing them -- you'd be fully responsible. If they are running away carrying your child or something it might be different, but not your camera.

what is more valuable

a human

or your property

injury to a person is allowable under certain circumstances

otherwise

as to when

consult an attorney practicing law in your local jurisdiction

here endeth the lesson

tvdtvdtvd · 10-29-2021, 03:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wheatridger

"But wait, you don't want this camera! It's a Pentax DSLR. Nobody uses DSLRs anymore, and Pentax doesn't exist- just read the photo blogs. My gear is completely worthless!"

Go on, just try to find a native K-mount microscope adapter. Or a modern tilt-shift. And let's not even open up the P-TTL can of worms. Seriously, you just don't want it.

**THoog** · 10-29-2021, 04:14 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ChristianRock

Walgreens just closed all their locations there

I would not call 5 out of 53 stores "all their locations". Competitor CVS only has 22 stores in the city. While theft is a serious issue, I suspect market saturation is also a factor.

**jumbleview** · 10-29-2021, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by vonBaloney

If you are chasing somebody and hurt them, it doesn't matter why you are chasing them -- you'd be fully responsible. If they are running away carrying your child or something it might be different, but not your camera.

Yes, that was my understanding as well. I could feel the pain of robbed, but chasing and hitting thieves with the car was not that smart. Especially given the fact how hard it is to fix the Tesla. I read that there are not that many car shops authorized to work on Tesla and people waits for several months to have them fixed.

Parallax · 10-29-2021, 04:35 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by aslyfox

" cash award " sounds like if the story is true, it was a civil lawsuit

Yes, it was tortious. As I said, "He sued the homeowner". The news story made no mention of criminal prosecution.

EDIT: Just to clarify, this is not internet rumor. It was a news article years before Al Gore invented the internet.

slartibartfast01 · 10-29-2021, 04:53 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jumbleview

It is not clear which gear was stolen. Based on the car he is driving (Tesla) it is for sure expensive.

Photographer Followed Home, Robbed of Gear at Gunpoint | PetaPixel

Scary times. And it is not even Halloween yet.

According to his website he uses Sony.

**macman24054** · 10-29-2021, 05:24 PM - **4 Likes**

Well they can follow me home and attempt the same thing. I just hope they are willing to give their life to attempt to steal my gear. I'm a vet of 12 years. When I shoot I don't miss!

Parallax · 10-29-2021, 07:04 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by macman24054

Well they can follow me home and attempt the same thing. I just hope they are willing to give their life to attempt to steal my gear. I'm a vet of 12 years. When I shoot I don't miss!

My feelings as well.
To those who make their living preying on others: Attempting to victimize this old man is not a career advancing move.

officiousbystander · 10-29-2021, 07:33 PM - **5 Likes**

Everyone's missing the two most extraordinary aspects of this story. A photographer that can afford a Tesla. And the getaway car that had its real licence plates.

**jumbleview** · 10-29-2021, 07:57 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by officiousbystander

Everyone's missing the two most extraordinary aspects of this story. A photographer that can afford a Tesla. And the getaway car that had its real licence plates.

On his site https://louischan.photo/about this photographer tells about himself: "Systems IT by day". If he works for some big high tech company his salary is OK. Definitely three digits and quite possible first digit is not "1". In our area it is not that rare. About robbers with real license plate on gateway car. What can I tell? For sure they are not "Systems IT by day".

biz-engineer · 10-30-2021, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by slartibartfast01

According to his website he uses Sony.

Sony is quite popular in the US. We are on the safe side with Pentax, as it's harder to sell in the used market, thieves wouldn't take such risks if they knew the gear was a bunch of M42 Takumar. I've wondered if I owned a Fuji GFX100, how safe/risky it would be to travel in poor countries.

**K(s)evin** · 10-30-2021, 01:42 AM

"EDIT: Just to clarify, this is not internet rumor. It was a news article years before Al Gore invented the internet."

What?!?!? Nothing political here.......

Gutta Perka · 10-30-2021, 02:11 AM - **2 Likes**

A Kodak Instamatik and you are safe!

35mmfilmfan · 10-30-2021, 07:36 AM

Just remember, if you are in trouble :

A friend will help you hide ;

A good friend will help you hide a body.

10-29-2021, 03:45 PM	#17
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	Originally posted by vonBaloney If you are chasing somebody and hurt them, it doesn't matter why you are chasing them -- you'd be fully responsible. If they are running away carrying your child or something it might be different, but not your camera. what is more valuable a human or your property injury to a person is allowable under certain circumstances otherwise as to when consult an attorney practicing law in your local jurisdiction here endeth the lesson Last edited by aslyfox; 10-29-2021 at 03:54 PM.

10-29-2021, 04:35 PM - 3 Likes	#21
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by aslyfox " cash award " sounds like if the story is true, it was a civil lawsuit Yes, it was tortious. As I said, "He sued the homeowner". The news story made no mention of criminal prosecution. EDIT: Just to clarify, this is not internet rumor. It was a news article years before Al Gore invented the internet. Last edited by Parallax; 10-29-2021 at 04:41 PM.

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10-29-2021, 03:40 PM	#16
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	Originally posted by Parallax . . . Several years ago I read an account . . . news alert not everything read ends up being true when you track it down anything is possible " cash award " sounds like if the story is true, it was a civil lawsuit not the possibility of a criminal prosecution which is what I was discussing

10-29-2021, 03:54 PM - 1 Like	#18
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by Wheatridger "But wait, you don't want this camera! It's a Pentax DSLR. Nobody uses DSLRs anymore, and Pentax doesn't exist- just read the photo blogs. My gear is completely worthless!" Go on, just try to find a native K-mount microscope adapter. Or a modern tilt-shift. And let's not even open up the P-TTL can of worms. Seriously, you just don't want it.

10-29-2021, 04:14 PM - 1 Like	#19
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by ChristianRock Walgreens just closed all their locations there I would not call 5 out of 53 stores "all their locations". Competitor CVS only has 22 stores in the city. While theft is a serious issue, I suspect market saturation is also a factor.

10-29-2021, 04:29 PM	#20
jumbleview Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 1,070 Original Poster	Originally posted by vonBaloney If you are chasing somebody and hurt them, it doesn't matter why you are chasing them -- you'd be fully responsible. If they are running away carrying your child or something it might be different, but not your camera. Yes, that was my understanding as well. I could feel the pain of robbed, but chasing and hitting thieves with the car was not that smart. Especially given the fact how hard it is to fix the Tesla. I read that there are not that many car shops authorized to work on Tesla and people waits for several months to have them fixed.

10-29-2021, 04:53 PM - 1 Like	#22
slartibartfast01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,931	Originally posted by jumbleview It is not clear which gear was stolen. Based on the car he is driving (Tesla) it is for sure expensive. Photographer Followed Home, Robbed of Gear at Gunpoint \| PetaPixel Scary times. And it is not even Halloween yet. According to his website he uses Sony.

10-29-2021, 05:24 PM - 4 Likes	#23
macman24054 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Axton, VA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 461	Well they can follow me home and attempt the same thing. I just hope they are willing to give their life to attempt to steal my gear. I'm a vet of 12 years. When I shoot I don't miss!

10-29-2021, 07:04 PM - 3 Likes	#24
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by macman24054 Well they can follow me home and attempt the same thing. I just hope they are willing to give their life to attempt to steal my gear. I'm a vet of 12 years. When I shoot I don't miss! My feelings as well. To those who make their living preying on others: Attempting to victimize this old man is not a career advancing move.

10-29-2021, 07:33 PM - 5 Likes	#25
officiousbystander Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery Posts: 916	Everyone's missing the two most extraordinary aspects of this story. A photographer that can afford a Tesla. And the getaway car that had its real licence plates.

10-29-2021, 07:57 PM - 1 Like	#26
jumbleview Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 1,070 Original Poster	Originally posted by officiousbystander Everyone's missing the two most extraordinary aspects of this story. A photographer that can afford a Tesla. And the getaway car that had its real licence plates. On his site https://louischan.photo/about this photographer tells about himself: "Systems IT by day". If he works for some big high tech company his salary is OK. Definitely three digits and quite possible first digit is not "1". In our area it is not that rare. About robbers with real license plate on gateway car. What can I tell? For sure they are not "Systems IT by day".

10-30-2021, 12:53 AM	#27
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,249	Originally posted by slartibartfast01 According to his website he uses Sony. Sony is quite popular in the US. We are on the safe side with Pentax, as it's harder to sell in the used market, thieves wouldn't take such risks if they knew the gear was a bunch of M42 Takumar. I've wondered if I owned a Fuji GFX100, how safe/risky it would be to travel in poor countries.

10-30-2021, 01:42 AM	#28
K(s)evin Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 476	"EDIT: Just to clarify, this is not internet rumor. It was a news article years before Al Gore invented the internet." What?!?!? Nothing political here.......

10-30-2021, 02:11 AM - 2 Likes	#29
Gutta Perka Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 126	A Kodak Instamatik and you are safe!

10-30-2021, 07:36 AM	#30
35mmfilmfan Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 4,342	Just remember, if you are in trouble : A friend will help you hide ; A good friend will help you hide a body.