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06-27-2022, 10:28 PM   #121
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QuoteOriginally posted by jmcsys Quote
Lovely pics!
Thanks. I just wanted to demonstrate how a couple of perfectly ordinary photos were critically enhanced by the bokeh characteristics.

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And then there are those cases where you see a beautiful "natural" background bokeh in your "wildlife" shots:

https://www.hoothollow.com/Image%20Super%20Folder/Images%20-%20Ecuador%202016/setup%202284.jpg

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High Country Hummingbirds – An Arizona Highways Photography Workshop | L Cowles Photography

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Tips for Photographing Hummingbirds


Not too much lens magic required here.
More a case of BYOBB = bring your own background bokeh
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
And then there are those cases where you see a beautiful "natural" background bokeh in your "wildlife" shots:

https://www.hoothollow.com/Image%20Super%20Folder/Images%20-%20Ecuador%202016/setup%202284.jpg

and

High Country Hummingbirds – An Arizona Highways Photography Workshop | L Cowles Photography

and


Tips for Photographing Hummingbirds


Not too much lens magic required here.
More a case of BYOBB = bring your own background bokeh
Ouch!!
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
And then there are those cases where you see a beautiful "natural" background bokeh in your "wildlife" shots:

https://www.hoothollow.com/Image%20Super%20Folder/Images%20-%20Ecuador%202016/setup%202284.jpg

and

High Country Hummingbirds – An Arizona Highways Photography Workshop | L Cowles Photography

and


Tips for Photographing Hummingbirds


Not too much lens magic required here.
More a case of BYOBB = bring your own background bokeh
That looks pretty intense But a good idea to use a screen as background. I think it would be interesting to use your own photos to create backdrops, perhaps with a bit more definition to provide a greater sense of "place" for your subject.

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That looks pretty intense But a good idea to use a screen as background. I think it would be interesting to use your own photos to create backdrops, perhaps with a bit more definition to provide a greater sense of "place" for your subject.
Well, that is just the analogue way of swapping out a background, similar to the hand paintings which were used a long time in cinema movies for "castles" and "spaceships" in the background.

It's no different from doing it in photoshop afterwards. It just has the added benefit of the light and light reflexions on the subject already being they way you want them.

It is "fake" bokeh this way or the other though.
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It would have been easier - and looked better - to find, kill and stuff the hummingbird and suspend it on fishing wire.
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Aye, but it’s all about the quality of those “load of balls”…

Just ask my “Special Lady” (Pentax-A 50mm F1.2), if you need any confirmation.

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It would have been easier - and looked better - to find, kill and stuff the hummingbird and suspend it on fishing wire.
Yes.

At least they can show you how to become "wildlife photographer of the century" while never leaving your basement and having the nicest bokeh with your kit lens.

Pretty convenient in the homeoffice era.
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
Well, that is just the analogue way of swapping out a background, similar to the hand paintings which were used a long time in cinema movies for "castles" and "spaceships" in the background.

It's no different from doing it in photoshop afterwards. It just has the added benefit of the light and light reflexions on the subject already being they way you want them.

It is "fake" bokeh this way or the other though.
When you use a long lens or do macro shots, your depth of field is extremely narrow by definition. This the DA 55-300 mm at f6.7.



This is the same lens at f8.



Obviously you can have special backdrops and that can add some contrast or color to your photo, but it certainly isn't necessary. I put out hummingbird feeders every year -- not so much to photograph them, but simply because I enjoy watching them and how they fight with each other. Hummingbirds are truly amazing creatures.
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