Pushing Pictures

**mtngal** · 12-02-2014, 10:45 PM

Tonight I got my new lenses and decided to play around some more with flash as I was taking test pictures. I am a complete novice when it comes to flash and now I'm trying to get used to RF triggers. I had the flash set too low, and got this very underexposed shot:

I was going to delete it but thought I would use it to see how much one can recover in the shadows with the K-S1. So I used Lightroom to adjust exposure and shadows, and came up with this (and yes, I know the background is pretty horrendous):

I was amazed that it looked quite reasonable. I was shooting at ISO 100 and the extreme lightening did introduce noise, but not as much as I had expected:

Here's a 100% crop, to show how much noise there was:

It cleaned up very nicely with a little bit of Topaz Labs DeNoise.

I'm really glad I tried this. It gave me confidence in the camera's ability to stretch the shadows more than I had expected. I'm not sure I could have gotten this type of result with the K3, though I routinely did things like this with the K5 (and had less noise). The photo was taken with one of the new lenses, the DA15.

Dan Rentea · 12-03-2014, 02:58 AM - **1 Like**

I played a little with K-S1 and it is not that horrible like some people say about that camera. Regarding the capability of Pentax camera to recover information from RAW files I have to say that I'm pretty impressed. Your picture is a good example.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-03-2014, 01:48 PM - **1 Like**

Looks great. Things we can do with images these days are amazing. I noticed that already in 2012 with K-01 files.

**THoog** · 12-03-2014, 02:45 PM

Neat! So you have at least two of the DA Ltds now - is the K-S1 still demanding more? (It'll do that!)

Last edited by THoog; 12-03-2014 at 02:51 PM.

**mtngal** · 12-03-2014, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by THoog

Neat! So you have at least two of the DA Ltds now - is the K-S1 still demanding more? (It'll do that!)

I now have 3 silver DA Limiteds, plus a black DA35 macro, giving my unicorn white camera lots of options.

That is all I feel a need for now - my lightweight kit will consist of these 4 lenses plus the FA 31 (the lens I used to take the above picture) and the FA77. I can't quite see getting the DA70 just because my 77 is black.

Tomorrow the 100WR will be arriving, so I'll also have a relatively light-weight 100 macro lens, which will make my kit pretty complete. I'm staying away from longer lenses right now.

---------- Post added 12-03-14 at 08:03 PM ----------

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Looks great. Things we can do with images these days are amazing. I noticed that already in 2012 with K-01 files.

I've had mixed results recovering details from shadows. The K5 was the best in my experience with the K7 being the worst (lighten a little and the noise was completely out of hand). The K3 is so-so. I shouldn't judge by just this one picture, but I think I would have gotten more noise with the K3 than I did in this shot. It wouldn't surprise me that the K-01 would be excellent with it's 16 mp sensor.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-04-2014, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by mtngal

I've had mixed results recovering details from shadows. The K5 was the best in my experience with the K7 being the worst (lighten a little and the noise was completely out of hand). The K3 is so-so. I shouldn't judge by just this one picture, but I think I would have gotten more noise with the K3 than I did in this shot. It wouldn't surprise me that the K-01 would be excellent with it's 16 mp sensor.

K-7 was much less in quality then the later sensors. Didn't try that with the K-3, but I would expect it to have less room for editing the the 16mp sensor.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/138-pentax-k-01/210930-wonderfull-k-01-a.html

12-02-2014, 10:45 PM	#1
mtngal Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wherever I’m Parked Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,003	Pushing Pictures Tonight I got my new lenses and decided to play around some more with flash as I was taking test pictures. I am a complete novice when it comes to flash and now I'm trying to get used to RF triggers. I had the flash set too low, and got this very underexposed shot: I was going to delete it but thought I would use it to see how much one can recover in the shadows with the K-S1. So I used Lightroom to adjust exposure and shadows, and came up with this (and yes, I know the background is pretty horrendous): I was amazed that it looked quite reasonable. I was shooting at ISO 100 and the extreme lightening did introduce noise, but not as much as I had expected: Here's a 100% crop, to show how much noise there was: It cleaned up very nicely with a little bit of Topaz Labs DeNoise. I'm really glad I tried this. It gave me confidence in the camera's ability to stretch the shadows more than I had expected. I'm not sure I could have gotten this type of result with the K3, though I routinely did things like this with the K5 (and had less noise). The photo was taken with one of the new lenses, the DA15.

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12-03-2014, 02:58 AM - 1 Like	#2
Dan Rentea Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bucharest Posts: 1,716	I played a little with K-S1 and it is not that horrible like some people say about that camera. Regarding the capability of Pentax camera to recover information from RAW files I have to say that I'm pretty impressed. Your picture is a good example.

12-03-2014, 01:48 PM - 1 Like	#3
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Looks great. Things we can do with images these days are amazing. I noticed that already in 2012 with K-01 files.

12-03-2014, 02:45 PM	#4
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Neat! So you have at least two of the DA Ltds now - is the K-S1 still demanding more? (It'll do that!) Last edited by THoog; 12-03-2014 at 02:51 PM.

12-03-2014, 09:00 PM	#5
mtngal Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wherever I’m Parked Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,003 Original Poster	Originally posted by THoog Neat! So you have at least two of the DA Ltds now - is the K-S1 still demanding more? (It'll do that!) I now have 3 silver DA Limiteds, plus a black DA35 macro, giving my unicorn white camera lots of options. That is all I feel a need for now - my lightweight kit will consist of these 4 lenses plus the FA 31 (the lens I used to take the above picture) and the FA77. I can't quite see getting the DA70 just because my 77 is black. Tomorrow the 100WR will be arriving, so I'll also have a relatively light-weight 100 macro lens, which will make my kit pretty complete. I'm staying away from longer lenses right now. ---------- Post added 12-03-14 at 08:03 PM ---------- Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Looks great. Things we can do with images these days are amazing. I noticed that already in 2012 with K-01 files. I've had mixed results recovering details from shadows. The K5 was the best in my experience with the K7 being the worst (lighten a little and the noise was completely out of hand). The K3 is so-so. I shouldn't judge by just this one picture, but I think I would have gotten more noise with the K3 than I did in this shot. It wouldn't surprise me that the K-01 would be excellent with it's 16 mp sensor.

12-04-2014, 01:40 PM	#6
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by mtngal I've had mixed results recovering details from shadows. The K5 was the best in my experience with the K7 being the worst (lighten a little and the noise was completely out of hand). The K3 is so-so. I shouldn't judge by just this one picture, but I think I would have gotten more noise with the K3 than I did in this shot. It wouldn't surprise me that the K-01 would be excellent with it's 16 mp sensor. K-7 was much less in quality then the later sensors. Didn't try that with the K-3, but I would expect it to have less room for editing the the 16mp sensor. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/138-pentax-k-01/210930-wonderfull-k-01-a.html