What Windows, Linux Apps for WiFi

fb_penpho · 03-10-2015, 03:08 AM

I have looked at the manual for setting up WiFi on the S2. So presumably when I press the WiFi button the camera will try to establish a link to the computer I have selected. But what is not stated is the application or applications that are capable of accepting a link from the camera. Anybody know what applications can accept the link and what can it do when it is established. thanks.

Steve.Ledger · 03-10-2015, 04:52 AM

The camera will broadcast an ID, your computer must detect it and then connect.
Once that's done I assume it will show as a shared device.

I'm sure it's all in the manual

fb_penpho · 03-10-2015, 05:24 AM

Steve, my K20 manual is 300pages and the S2 a more complicated camera 150. I have looked through the 150 pages and I cannot find any reference. Pentax as you can see have definitely cut back on the manual and vital information like the type I am asking.

wombat2go · 03-10-2015, 05:38 AM

Yes, the manual does seem to lack info.
It shows -P89 and in the specs P127 that the camera is probably running a dhcp client to connect to an ordinary wireless router which will give it an IP#.
But no mention of what protocol or software needed to access the camera. Maybe the camera is running http server for access by a browser?
Is there a supplementary instruction for this?

**clackers** · 03-10-2015, 10:13 AM

I thought the phone app for this was released just in the last few days.

stevebrot · 03-10-2015, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by wombat2go

Yes, the manual does seem to lack info.
It shows -P89 and in the specs P127 that the camera is probably running a dhcp client to connect to an ordinary wireless router which will give it an IP#.
But no mention of what protocol or software needed to access the camera. Maybe the camera is running http server for access by a browser?
Is there a supplementary instruction for this?

Yes, it does appear that the camera operates as a DHCP client. As for the tethering protocol, a Web service solution with camera as server is most likely, though a proprietary protocol would not be against the rules. (The tethering app is not browser-based and both IOS and Android provide ample mechanism for opening/managing sockets.)

Steve

stevebrot · 03-10-2015, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by clackers

I thought the phone app for this was released just in the last few days.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ricohimaging.imagesync

Steve

wombat2go · 03-10-2015, 11:31 AM

Is that for the wifi or the nfc or both?

**clackers** · 03-10-2015, 04:31 PM

Wifi. Nfc is only used to cut out the step of joining the network and entering the WPA key.

wombat2go · 03-10-2015, 04:52 PM

Thanks
I could really use a proper tethering to my cameras here when I play around with optics etc during the winter.
I will be unlikely to purchase a new aps-c camera to do it.
The other constraint is that when using the cameras on, for example a bellows, the prism gets in the way , so my K-01 works best.

As a side note about downloading those Android apps, we have 4 Androids here. I tried to download an app and nearly went nuts because it did not download and shop kept saying it was downloaded.
A few days later, I found the problem: The download was going to another device that was switched on.

**clackers** · 03-10-2015, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by wombat2go

Thanks
I could really use a proper tethering to my cameras here when I play around with optics etc during the winter.

Well, for real USB tethering, there's nothing.

One day a variant of the 645's software might trickle down with an accompanying firmware upgrade.

Generally speaking, the K-3 is a tog's camera, the K-S series are for non-Pentaxians (although I have one as a superb second body).

fb_penpho · 03-11-2015, 09:33 AM

Talked to my supplier who explained it as the following. The Camera acts as a 'master' an equivalent to a router. The app runs on the android device and accepts the link from the camera. There are no Windows or Linux programs (at the moment) that will work with the camera. So don't lose that USB cable any time soon, you will need it to transfer the files.

sterretje · 03-11-2015, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by fb_penpho

Talked to my supplier who explained it as the following. The Camera acts as a 'master' an equivalent to a router

I agree with that; reading the manual (page 92) seems to indicate that. The setup screen of the imagesync app connects to a device with a SSID, similar to connecting laptop or mobile to a router.

**clackers** · 03-12-2015, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by sterretje

I agree with that; reading the manual (page 92) seems to indicate that. The setup screen of the imagesync app connects to a device with a SSID, similar to connecting laptop or mobile to a router.

It's how the Flucard works, if you've ever used that, except you then follow the connection up with a web browser instead of a dedicated app.

03-10-2015, 03:08 AM	#1
fb_penpho Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London Photos: Gallery Posts: 212	What Windows, Linux Apps for WiFi I have looked at the manual for setting up WiFi on the S2. So presumably when I press the WiFi button the camera will try to establish a link to the computer I have selected. But what is not stated is the application or applications that are capable of accepting a link from the camera. Anybody know what applications can accept the link and what can it do when it is established. thanks.

03-10-2015, 10:42 AM	#6
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by wombat2go Yes, the manual does seem to lack info. It shows -P89 and in the specs P127 that the camera is probably running a dhcp client to connect to an ordinary wireless router which will give it an IP#. But no mention of what protocol or software needed to access the camera. Maybe the camera is running http server for access by a browser? Is there a supplementary instruction for this? Yes, it does appear that the camera operates as a DHCP client. As for the tethering protocol, a Web service solution with camera as server is most likely, though a proprietary protocol would not be against the rules. (The tethering app is not browser-based and both IOS and Android provide ample mechanism for opening/managing sockets.) Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 03-10-2015 at 10:53 AM.

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03-10-2015, 04:52 AM	#2
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	The camera will broadcast an ID, your computer must detect it and then connect. Once that's done I assume it will show as a shared device. I'm sure it's all in the manual

03-10-2015, 05:24 AM	#3
fb_penpho Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London Photos: Gallery Posts: 212 Original Poster	Steve, my K20 manual is 300pages and the S2 a more complicated camera 150. I have looked through the 150 pages and I cannot find any reference. Pentax as you can see have definitely cut back on the manual and vital information like the type I am asking.

03-10-2015, 05:38 AM	#4
wombat2go Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Yes, the manual does seem to lack info. It shows -P89 and in the specs P127 that the camera is probably running a dhcp client to connect to an ordinary wireless router which will give it an IP#. But no mention of what protocol or software needed to access the camera. Maybe the camera is running http server for access by a browser? Is there a supplementary instruction for this?

03-10-2015, 10:13 AM	#5
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	I thought the phone app for this was released just in the last few days.

03-10-2015, 10:51 AM	#7
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by clackers I thought the phone app for this was released just in the last few days. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ricohimaging.imagesync Steve

03-10-2015, 11:31 AM	#8
wombat2go Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Is that for the wifi or the nfc or both?

03-10-2015, 04:31 PM	#9
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Wifi. Nfc is only used to cut out the step of joining the network and entering the WPA key.

03-10-2015, 04:52 PM	#10
wombat2go Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Thanks I could really use a proper tethering to my cameras here when I play around with optics etc during the winter. I will be unlikely to purchase a new aps-c camera to do it. The other constraint is that when using the cameras on, for example a bellows, the prism gets in the way , so my K-01 works best. As a side note about downloading those Android apps, we have 4 Androids here. I tried to download an app and nearly went nuts because it did not download and shop kept saying it was downloaded. A few days later, I found the problem: The download was going to another device that was switched on.

03-10-2015, 05:38 PM	#11
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by wombat2go Thanks I could really use a proper tethering to my cameras here when I play around with optics etc during the winter. Well, for real USB tethering, there's nothing. One day a variant of the 645's software might trickle down with an accompanying firmware upgrade. Generally speaking, the K-3 is a tog's camera, the K-S series are for non-Pentaxians (although I have one as a superb second body).

03-11-2015, 09:33 AM	#12
fb_penpho Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London Photos: Gallery Posts: 212 Original Poster	Talked to my supplier who explained it as the following. The Camera acts as a 'master' an equivalent to a router. The app runs on the android device and accepts the link from the camera. There are no Windows or Linux programs (at the moment) that will work with the camera. So don't lose that USB cable any time soon, you will need it to transfer the files.

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03-11-2015, 10:48 PM	#13
sterretje Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Roodepoort, South Africa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,561	Originally posted by fb_penpho Talked to my supplier who explained it as the following. The Camera acts as a 'master' an equivalent to a router I agree with that; reading the manual (page 92) seems to indicate that. The setup screen of the imagesync app connects to a device with a SSID, similar to connecting laptop or mobile to a router.

03-12-2015, 12:42 AM	#14
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by sterretje I agree with that; reading the manual (page 92) seems to indicate that. The setup screen of the imagesync app connects to a device with a SSID, similar to connecting laptop or mobile to a router. It's how the Flucard works, if you've ever used that, except you then follow the connection up with a web browser instead of a dedicated app.