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sterretje · 04-14-2015, 10:38 PM

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pkerkh69 · 04-14-2015, 11:20 PM

Ok, thanks.
I have updated the firmware and will test it today.

Marktax · 04-15-2015, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by pkerkh69

Where can I find this firmware?

Try here: Latest K-3 Firmware Update : Software Downloads | RICOH IMAGING

mrg9999 · 04-15-2015, 04:28 PM

I've installed the new firmware. It's currently night-time, so not much chance of over bright subjects.

pkerkh69 · 04-16-2015, 07:05 AM

I tested the new firmware yesterday and here are my findings:

I don't notice any diference regarding the brightness of the images and the problem with the high ISO while using the flash, is still there,

But I tried something else.
Usually I use Multi-segment metering, but now I find Center-Weighted-metering giving better results when shooting objects. No over exposed images now.
With the K-30 I did not need to switch and could use Multi-segment metering all the time.
With the K-S2, Multi-segment metering is usefull when shooting a larger scene, like landscapes.
So for now I have to switch between both metering options or dial down exposure compensation to avoid getting images that are too bright.
But it would be nice if it could be fixed in a new firmware.

But highlights are still blown out, especialy white objects.
I know this can be fixed in Lightroom, but this would also be nice if it could be fixed with a new firmware.

sterretje · 04-16-2015, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by pkerkh69

and the problem with the high ISO while using the flash

I actually would not consider that a problem. I understand it is different from your other camera and that you consider it to be 'wrong', but there might be a different design philosophy behind it.

Also, in my opinion one should stay away from auto-iso when using flash.

mrg9999 · 04-16-2015, 10:53 PM

I liked a feature of my Minolta 7D camera, where you could export the defaults to a file, edit them like the default EV for auto, and it would then put them into the flash memory, so that if you did a normal factory reset, it would retain this item, unless you did a firmware update reset. It's a camera I still use tethered for some applications, though it is over 10 years old.

mrg9999 · 04-17-2015, 04:05 PM

Samples 0EV and -1 EV. My car in the drive
https://www.flickr.com/photos/62644582@N00/sets/72157652009935552/with/16974627857/

shiner · 05-13-2015, 01:07 AM

I've had one instance of over-exposure when using the pop-up flash for fill in direct sunlight, and with the ISO fixed at 200.

**Spodeworld** · 05-13-2015, 04:13 PM

It's not surprising that the ISO is running to the max setting. That's probably based on metering for the ambient light which is probably not too abundant. I think that that is very standard behavior. Use fixed ISO if you want to avoid that.

sterretje · 05-13-2015, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Spodeworld

It's not surprising that the ISO is running to the max setting. That's probably based on metering for the ambient light which is probably not too abundant.

pkerkh69's issue is that the K-30 did not seem to do that. So Pentax probably implemented a different algorithm that uses a different auto-iso limit allowing it to 'run away'.

But one should stay away from auto-iso in my opinion when using flash, even if one sets reasonable limits like 100-400.

RMabo · 06-23-2015, 02:24 AM

My K-S2 also exposes brighter than my previous Pentax DSLR's, seems like Pentax has choosen to go where other camera makeras already are.. I do prefer underexposure to overexposure, it's easy to lift an underexposure. Auto ISO seems oversensitive, it pumps up the ISO too easily and earlier than on my previous Pentax DSLR's. Now the sensor in the K-S2 handles high ISO extremely well, but it still feels a bit odd.

vboy · 07-16-2015, 11:11 PM

my KS-2 HAS A DIFFERENT PROBLEM.THE OK BUTTON WHEN LONG PRESSED DOESN'T CHANGE .IF IT HAS BEEN SET ON A SPOT METERING ,IT STAYS SPOT.
PLESE HELP.! THANKS...

swanlefitte · 07-16-2015, 11:37 PM

it doesn't work in all modes. A, TV, av won't. M does and tav. Just tried it. I rarely shoot other than m.

---------- Post added 07-16-15 at 11:45 PM ----------

update it seems it does work if I wait between changing settings or if repress the button.

pkerkh69 · 09-24-2015, 12:53 AM

Update:
Even with firmware 1.10 the issue of overexposing bright areas still exists.

Is Pentax aware of this problem?
If not, how can I report this issue to Pentax?

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04-14-2015, 10:38 PM	#16
sterretje Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Roodepoort, South Africa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,561	Software Downloads : Support & Service \| RICOH IMAGING

04-14-2015, 11:20 PM	#17
pkerkh69 New Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 9 Original Poster	Ok, thanks. I have updated the firmware and will test it today.

04-15-2015, 06:17 AM	#18
Marktax Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Washington DC Photos: Albums Posts: 610	Originally posted by pkerkh69 Where can I find this firmware? Try here: Latest K-3 Firmware Update : Software Downloads \| RICOH IMAGING

04-15-2015, 04:28 PM	#19
mrg9999 New Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 17	I've installed the new firmware. It's currently night-time, so not much chance of over bright subjects.

04-16-2015, 07:05 AM	#20
pkerkh69 New Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 9 Original Poster	I tested the new firmware yesterday and here are my findings: I don't notice any diference regarding the brightness of the images and the problem with the high ISO while using the flash, is still there, But I tried something else. Usually I use Multi-segment metering, but now I find Center-Weighted-metering giving better results when shooting objects. No over exposed images now. With the K-30 I did not need to switch and could use Multi-segment metering all the time. With the K-S2, Multi-segment metering is usefull when shooting a larger scene, like landscapes. So for now I have to switch between both metering options or dial down exposure compensation to avoid getting images that are too bright. But it would be nice if it could be fixed in a new firmware. But highlights are still blown out, especialy white objects. I know this can be fixed in Lightroom, but this would also be nice if it could be fixed with a new firmware.

04-16-2015, 09:17 PM	#21
sterretje Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Roodepoort, South Africa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,561	Originally posted by pkerkh69 and the problem with the high ISO while using the flash I actually would not consider that a problem. I understand it is different from your other camera and that you consider it to be 'wrong', but there might be a different design philosophy behind it. Also, in my opinion one should stay away from auto-iso when using flash.

04-16-2015, 10:53 PM	#22
mrg9999 New Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 17	I liked a feature of my Minolta 7D camera, where you could export the defaults to a file, edit them like the default EV for auto, and it would then put them into the flash memory, so that if you did a normal factory reset, it would retain this item, unless you did a firmware update reset. It's a camera I still use tethered for some applications, though it is over 10 years old.

04-17-2015, 04:05 PM	#23
mrg9999 New Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 17	Samples 0EV and -1 EV. My car in the drive https://www.flickr.com/photos/62644582@N00/sets/72157652009935552/with/16974627857/

05-13-2015, 01:07 AM	#24
shiner Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N GA USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,127	I've had one instance of over-exposure when using the pop-up flash for fill in direct sunlight, and with the ISO fixed at 200.

05-13-2015, 04:13 PM	#25
Spodeworld Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Joisey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,370	It's not surprising that the ISO is running to the max setting. That's probably based on metering for the ambient light which is probably not too abundant. I think that that is very standard behavior. Use fixed ISO if you want to avoid that.

05-13-2015, 09:16 PM	#26
sterretje Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Roodepoort, South Africa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,561	Originally posted by Spodeworld It's not surprising that the ISO is running to the max setting. That's probably based on metering for the ambient light which is probably not too abundant. pkerkh69's issue is that the K-30 did not seem to do that. So Pentax probably implemented a different algorithm that uses a different auto-iso limit allowing it to 'run away'. But one should stay away from auto-iso in my opinion when using flash, even if one sets reasonable limits like 100-400.

06-23-2015, 02:24 AM	#27
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	My K-S2 also exposes brighter than my previous Pentax DSLR's, seems like Pentax has choosen to go where other camera makeras already are.. I do prefer underexposure to overexposure, it's easy to lift an underexposure. Auto ISO seems oversensitive, it pumps up the ISO too easily and earlier than on my previous Pentax DSLR's. Now the sensor in the K-S2 handles high ISO extremely well, but it still feels a bit odd.

07-16-2015, 11:11 PM	#28
vboy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 46	my KS-2 HAS A DIFFERENT PROBLEM.THE OK BUTTON WHEN LONG PRESSED DOESN'T CHANGE .IF IT HAS BEEN SET ON A SPOT METERING ,IT STAYS SPOT. PLESE HELP.! THANKS...

07-16-2015, 11:37 PM	#29
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	it doesn't work in all modes. A, TV, av won't. M does and tav. Just tried it. I rarely shoot other than m. ---------- Post added 07-16-15 at 11:45 PM ---------- update it seems it does work if I wait between changing settings or if repress the button.

09-24-2015, 12:53 AM	#30
pkerkh69 New Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 9 Original Poster	Update: Even with firmware 1.10 the issue of overexposing bright areas still exists. Is Pentax aware of this problem? If not, how can I report this issue to Pentax?

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