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Vmax911 · 05-19-2016, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by filmamigo

If this issue is systemic, it's frustrating to have it perpetuate through multiple models.

Very frustrating, if this is the case. I skipped the k50 since it was a carbon copy of the k30. I thought the ks2 was different enough that it wouldn't have the same problem. So far yours is the first ks2 to have this problem, and we are still speculating it is the aperture drive failure at this point.

The good thing is we are aware of the problem. I had a few "dark frames" with my k30 while it was still under extended warranty, but thought it was just a fluke. Now I know what to look for with my ks2.

D1N0 · 05-20-2016, 07:25 AM

Just post a few raw files with the problem. Could also be a shutter problem. How about when you shoot in live view?

nucleon · 05-21-2016, 03:36 PM

This is not fun at all. I have dumped my K-30 as switched 100% to Black Frames and decided on K-S2. Now K-S2goes the same path. If it happened I may switch to K3, however no more lenses and accessories for K-S2 as the "may switch to K3" has the same weight as "may switch to Nikon or Olympus". Nikon and Olympus takes care of their customers. Pentax keeps quiet without any sign of feeling guilty.
Leo

filmamigo · 05-27-2016, 08:14 PM

Well, the answer is in, and it's not good. Repair centre estimate is for "Diaphragm Control Block." Price for repair: $235.32

If the camera had been purchased in Canada, it would be eligible for a two-year warranty repair. Unfortunately it was imported from the U.S. so it was covered for one year only, and has expired.

**clackers** · 05-27-2016, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by filmamigo

Well, the answer is in, and it's not good. Repair centre estimate is for "Diaphragm Control Block." Price for repair: $235.32

If the camera had been purchased in Canada, it would be eligible for a two-year warranty repair. Unfortunately it was imported from the U.S. so it was covered for one year only, and has expired.

That's bad news, Filmamigo.

I bought my K-1 locally with extended warranty rather than from overseas for a little peace of mind.

filmamigo · 05-28-2016, 07:22 AM

The next question: for people who got their K-30 etc repaired, did the repair work long term? Or are they putting the same flawed design parts back in, doomed to fail in the future?

Vmax911 · 05-28-2016, 07:35 AM

That is bad news. This is the third generation of camera to have this problem, so it doesn't sound like they have a fix for it, or are simply not concerned about it.

Just out of curiosity, how old and how many shots on your k-s2?

D1N0 · 05-28-2016, 07:49 AM

More likely it is a qc issue since not nearly all camera's develop. A repair would solve it.

filmamigo · 05-28-2016, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Vmax911

That is bad news. This is the third generation of camera to have this problem, so it doesn't sound like they have a fix for it, or are simply not concerned about it.

Just out of curiosity, how old and how many shots on your k-s2?

The camera was originally purchased mid-April 2015. It's lightly used, maybe 1000 shots?

Dlanor Sekao · 05-28-2016, 09:43 PM

This is NOT Good.....you can always keep it and use it for shooting M42 lenses ? I am about to but a KS2 , but wont unless I can get a no hassle warranty for 3 years. Sorry to hear this.....feel for You.
BTW......BOTH of my K30's developed the same problem......it SUCKS !

FotoPete · 06-02-2016, 07:13 AM

Sorry to hear about your KS-2 experience, I felt it was definitely a good turn around in design and overall camera when the camera was announced. I just had my Mz-5n gear/motor fail on me the other day. While not as financially painful, it's annoying to see cameras still plagued by the same sorts of issues.

filmamigo · 06-03-2016, 11:59 AM

I have opted to have the K-S2 repaired.

I decided that I did enjoy shooting the K-S2 (for the short period of time I had it.) The handling is excellent, the image quality is excellent, I love the flip-out screen.

This does mean I am committed to the APS-C format for a while longer with this investment. I will wait a while longer to go full-frame.

filmamigo · 06-15-2016, 08:21 AM

Checked with Sun Camera, as of yesterday the camera was fixed and will be sent back to me. That's an 11 day turnaround. Pretty good for a consumer repair (i.e.not a "Pro" service agreement like you can subscribe to from Canon or Nikon.)

Will let you know how the camera works, and will update here if any problems ever re-develop.

**clackers** · 06-15-2016, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by filmamigo

Checked with Sun Camera, as of yesterday the camera was fixed and will be sent back to me. That's an 11 day turnaround. Pretty good for a consumer repair (i.e.not a "Pro" service agreement like you can subscribe to from Canon or Nikon.)

Will let you know how the camera works, and will update here if any problems ever re-develop.

An unpleasant hiccup, Filmamigo, glad to hear you'll be up and running again.

stevebrot · 06-15-2016, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Vmax911

That is bad news. This is the third generation of camera to have this problem, so it doesn't sound like they have a fix for it, or are simply not concerned about it.

Does a single report constitute a trend? The sky is not falling until we start seeing four or five reports per week as happened with the K-30 and later, the K-50. I know, there is another thread, but to be honest, I am not sure the problem with that camera (if any) had been characterized. FWIW, the OP on that thread (gatorguy) is posting photos, so perhaps he figured things out.

Steve

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05-19-2016, 01:18 PM	#16
Vmax911 Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ABQ Photos: Gallery Posts: 826	Originally posted by filmamigo If this issue is systemic, it's frustrating to have it perpetuate through multiple models. Very frustrating, if this is the case. I skipped the k50 since it was a carbon copy of the k30. I thought the ks2 was different enough that it wouldn't have the same problem. So far yours is the first ks2 to have this problem, and we are still speculating it is the aperture drive failure at this point. The good thing is we are aware of the problem. I had a few "dark frames" with my k30 while it was still under extended warranty, but thought it was just a fluke. Now I know what to look for with my ks2.

05-20-2016, 07:25 AM	#17
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Just post a few raw files with the problem. Could also be a shutter problem. How about when you shoot in live view?

05-21-2016, 03:36 PM	#18
nucleon Forum Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 58	This is not fun at all. I have dumped my K-30 as switched 100% to Black Frames and decided on K-S2. Now K-S2goes the same path. If it happened I may switch to K3, however no more lenses and accessories for K-S2 as the "may switch to K3" has the same weight as "may switch to Nikon or Olympus". Nikon and Olympus takes care of their customers. Pentax keeps quiet without any sign of feeling guilty. Leo

05-27-2016, 08:14 PM	#19
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797 Original Poster	Well, the answer is in, and it's not good. Repair centre estimate is for "Diaphragm Control Block." Price for repair: $235.32 If the camera had been purchased in Canada, it would be eligible for a two-year warranty repair. Unfortunately it was imported from the U.S. so it was covered for one year only, and has expired.

05-27-2016, 11:44 PM	#20
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by filmamigo Well, the answer is in, and it's not good. Repair centre estimate is for "Diaphragm Control Block." Price for repair: $235.32 If the camera had been purchased in Canada, it would be eligible for a two-year warranty repair. Unfortunately it was imported from the U.S. so it was covered for one year only, and has expired. That's bad news, Filmamigo. I bought my K-1 locally with extended warranty rather than from overseas for a little peace of mind.

05-28-2016, 07:22 AM	#21
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797 Original Poster	The next question: for people who got their K-30 etc repaired, did the repair work long term? Or are they putting the same flawed design parts back in, doomed to fail in the future?

05-28-2016, 07:35 AM	#22
Vmax911 Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ABQ Photos: Gallery Posts: 826	That is bad news. This is the third generation of camera to have this problem, so it doesn't sound like they have a fix for it, or are simply not concerned about it. Just out of curiosity, how old and how many shots on your k-s2?

05-28-2016, 07:49 AM	#23
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	More likely it is a qc issue since not nearly all camera's develop. A repair would solve it.

05-28-2016, 06:52 PM	#24
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797 Original Poster	Originally posted by Vmax911 That is bad news. This is the third generation of camera to have this problem, so it doesn't sound like they have a fix for it, or are simply not concerned about it. Just out of curiosity, how old and how many shots on your k-s2? The camera was originally purchased mid-April 2015. It's lightly used, maybe 1000 shots?

05-28-2016, 09:43 PM	#25
Dlanor Sekao Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,457	This is NOT Good.....you can always keep it and use it for shooting M42 lenses ? I am about to but a KS2 , but wont unless I can get a no hassle warranty for 3 years. Sorry to hear this.....feel for You. BTW......BOTH of my K30's developed the same problem......it SUCKS !

06-02-2016, 07:13 AM	#26
FotoPete Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,774	Sorry to hear about your KS-2 experience, I felt it was definitely a good turn around in design and overall camera when the camera was announced. I just had my Mz-5n gear/motor fail on me the other day. While not as financially painful, it's annoying to see cameras still plagued by the same sorts of issues.

06-03-2016, 11:59 AM	#27
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797 Original Poster	I have opted to have the K-S2 repaired. I decided that I did enjoy shooting the K-S2 (for the short period of time I had it.) The handling is excellent, the image quality is excellent, I love the flip-out screen. This does mean I am committed to the APS-C format for a while longer with this investment. I will wait a while longer to go full-frame.

06-15-2016, 08:21 AM	#28
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797 Original Poster	Checked with Sun Camera, as of yesterday the camera was fixed and will be sent back to me. That's an 11 day turnaround. Pretty good for a consumer repair (i.e.not a "Pro" service agreement like you can subscribe to from Canon or Nikon.) Will let you know how the camera works, and will update here if any problems ever re-develop.

06-15-2016, 04:27 PM	#29
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by filmamigo Checked with Sun Camera, as of yesterday the camera was fixed and will be sent back to me. That's an 11 day turnaround. Pretty good for a consumer repair (i.e.not a "Pro" service agreement like you can subscribe to from Canon or Nikon.) Will let you know how the camera works, and will update here if any problems ever re-develop. An unpleasant hiccup, Filmamigo, glad to hear you'll be up and running again.

06-15-2016, 06:02 PM	#30
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Vmax911 That is bad news. This is the third generation of camera to have this problem, so it doesn't sound like they have a fix for it, or are simply not concerned about it. Does a single report constitute a trend? The sky is not falling until we start seeing four or five reports per week as happened with the K-30 and later, the K-50. I know, there is another thread, but to be honest, I am not sure the problem with that camera (if any) had been characterized. FWIW, the OP on that thread (gatorguy) is posting photos, so perhaps he figured things out. Steve

Dark frames on K-S2

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