To Repair or Toss - That is the Question

Bob 256 · 07-16-2017, 02:28 PM

My cousin has an old Pentax camera (don't know what model), and a collection of lenses but the camera is broken. I suggested a repair job but I don't know if he wants to spend any money on it. In the meantime, a friend gave me a Pentax ZX-50 which appears to be in mint condition save the fact that it doesn't work. It makes noises and the mirror slowly raises and lowers but the shutter won't operate. Before I knew it was bad, my thoughts were to gift it to my cousin, but now that isn't the plan.

I noted that a used (good condition) PZ1-p is available on ebay so I'm trying to decide between having the ZX-50 repaired and buying the PZ1-p for him (about $130US).

Any suggestions including a reference to a good repair service would be appreciated. Will go with the majority vote.

Thanks.

**jlstrawman** · 07-16-2017, 02:31 PM

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**6BQ5** · 07-16-2017, 02:34 PM

Toss the ZX-50 or give it to some kids for a take-apart project. They are ubiquitous and cheap. I see them at my local Goodwill with a kit lens for $10 ... and they work. If you have $130 of spending cash then get a PZ1. Those bodies are pretty tough except for the plastic around the battery compartment. Be patient and you will score one for less than $130.

**pschlute** · 07-16-2017, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Bob 256

a friend gave me a Pentax ZX-50 which appears to be in mint condition save the fact that it doesn't work

mmmm let me think about that for a moment!

Unless they are classic cameras with collector value I wouldn't bother with repair. You can usually buy a working one on ebay for less than the repair. Give the ZX-50 to your cousin anyway and he has a collection started !

The Z1/Pz1 range are great film cameras with many advanced features for their time. The Hyper Program that todays K1 has started its life in that film series over 25 years ago. $130 sound pricey to me though. They have a common fault at this age of the mirror lifter cog breaking and spares are getting harder to find. i bought a Z1 recently to replace the one I had from new and it cost me in the UK about $65 equivalent. It also had a Pentax 50mm macro lens attached !

Last edited by pschlute; 07-16-2017 at 02:58 PM.

Bob 256 · 07-16-2017, 03:06 PM

Thanks for the input folks. The PZ1-p has it.

I know they are a great camera - I have two - one with a broken battery casing that I have a replacement for but haven't put on yet (and with my new K-1, that might be a while longer). I want to keep my own PZ1-ps, but will shop on ebay for a little lower $ mark and go that route. Now I just have to check how old my cousin's camera was so I don't end up sending him a K mount camera for screw mount lenses.

Thank's again.

**caliscouser** · 07-16-2017, 09:49 PM

I think those suffered from aperture motor failures. That may possibly be what is going on.
I agree that it is not an economical repair. The ZX-50 can be harvested for the solenoid to fix later DSLRs.
If you don't want to keep it I'd be interested in it for the solenoid.

**Pioneer** · 07-17-2017, 10:56 AM

The early metal monsters were built very strong and are commonly repairable.

The later plastic cameras with electronics were not as tough and parts are almost impossible to find. They have really become disposable cameras.

I love my two PZ-1p cameras but I have already had to replace one of them because of electronic glitches.

EDIT - Even many of the older metal, manual cameras are getting tougher to repair. A lot of them have been pretty much used up and worn out. Unless your technician can source NOS parts like springs, etc. any repairs may not last long.

link81 · 07-17-2017, 01:40 PM

not for not, but if you look, you should be able to find a decent digital body in that price range also. will work with all the same lenses as the zx and pz.....

Bob 256 · 07-17-2017, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by link81

not for not, but if you look, you should be able to find a decent digital body in that price range also. will work with all the same lenses as the zx and pz.....

Thought about that but have to weigh it against his technical capabilities. He doesn't have internet to upload for printing, nor a printer, and isn't too computer agile so film might be the way to go. Have to feel him out when I check into his existing mount style, but if he's game, that would be a wise choice and same him the cost of film. Any recommendations for a <$100 DSLR that might show up on ebay (Pentax of course

)?

**caliscouser** · 07-17-2017, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Bob 256

Any recommendations for a <$100 DSLR that might show up on ebay (Pentax of course)?

K100d would fit the bill.

Bob 256 · 07-25-2017, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by caliscouser

K100d would fit the bill.

Hey thanks for that suggestion. I landed a K100D and cheapie zoom lens on ebay for under $100US. Looks like a good buy with less than 5000 shots on the shutter. Now I'm thinking about getting a second for myself and having it converted to infrared - good 6Mpix camera with the equivalent of live view should work well for that.

Wheatfield · 07-25-2017, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Bob 256

My cousin has an old Pentax camera (don't know what model), and a collection of lenses but the camera is broken. I suggested a repair job but I don't know if he wants to spend any money on it. In the meantime, a friend gave me a Pentax ZX-50 which appears to be in mint condition save the fact that it doesn't work. It makes noises and the mirror slowly raises and lowers but the shutter won't operate. Before I knew it was bad, my thoughts were to gift it to my cousin, but now that isn't the plan.

I noted that a used (good condition) PZ1-p is available on ebay so I'm trying to decide between having the ZX-50 repaired and buying the PZ1-p for him (about $130US).

Any suggestions including a reference to a good repair service would be appreciated. Will go with the majority vote.

Thanks.

All of the ZX/ MZ cameras of that body style are built like cheap P&S cameras. Toss it and be done with it. They are little more than a high end disposable camera.

Bob 256 · 07-26-2017, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

All of the ZX/ MZ cameras of that body style are built like cheap P&S cameras. Toss it and be done with it. They are little more than a high end disposable camera.

I kind of surmised that after looking at the ZX - little bit disappointed with Pentax. I have since ordered a K100D off ebay per caliscouser's recommendation, and think it will better suit my cousin's needs if I can hook him up with a digital print lab (I use a couple myself and can suggest those). He doesn't have internet so that might be an issue

In buying the K100D, I got carried away and ordered a used K-01 for myself to be converted to infrared and paired with my K-1, so this whole exercise was fruitful as they say.

07-16-2017, 02:28 PM	#1
Bob 256 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 169	To Repair or Toss - That is the Question My cousin has an old Pentax camera (don't know what model), and a collection of lenses but the camera is broken. I suggested a repair job but I don't know if he wants to spend any money on it. In the meantime, a friend gave me a Pentax ZX-50 which appears to be in mint condition save the fact that it doesn't work. It makes noises and the mirror slowly raises and lowers but the shutter won't operate. Before I knew it was bad, my thoughts were to gift it to my cousin, but now that isn't the plan. I noted that a used (good condition) PZ1-p is available on ebay so I'm trying to decide between having the ZX-50 repaired and buying the PZ1-p for him (about $130US). Any suggestions including a reference to a good repair service would be appreciated. Will go with the majority vote. Thanks.

07-17-2017, 10:56 AM	#7
Pioneer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Elko, Nevada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,229	The early metal monsters were built very strong and are commonly repairable. The later plastic cameras with electronics were not as tough and parts are almost impossible to find. They have really become disposable cameras. I love my two PZ-1p cameras but I have already had to replace one of them because of electronic glitches. EDIT - Even many of the older metal, manual cameras are getting tougher to repair. A lot of them have been pretty much used up and worn out. Unless your technician can source NOS parts like springs, etc. any repairs may not last long. Last edited by Pioneer; 07-17-2017 at 10:59 AM. Reason: I thought I was done...but I wasn't

07-17-2017, 04:46 PM	#9
Bob 256 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 169 Original Poster	Originally posted by link81 not for not, but if you look, you should be able to find a decent digital body in that price range also. will work with all the same lenses as the zx and pz..... Thought about that but have to weigh it against his technical capabilities. He doesn't have internet to upload for printing, nor a printer, and isn't too computer agile so film might be the way to go. Have to feel him out when I check into his existing mount style, but if he's game, that would be a wise choice and same him the cost of film. Any recommendations for a <$100 DSLR that might show up on ebay (Pentax of course)?

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6BQ5 Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,105	Toss the ZX-50 or give it to some kids for a take-apart project. They are ubiquitous and cheap. I see them at my local Goodwill with a kit lens for $10 ... and they work. If you have $130 of spending cash then get a PZ1. Those bodies are pretty tough except for the plastic around the battery compartment. Be patient and you will score one for less than $130.

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pschlute Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,153	Originally posted by Bob 256 a friend gave me a Pentax ZX-50 which appears to be in mint condition save the fact that it doesn't work mmmm let me think about that for a moment! Unless they are classic cameras with collector value I wouldn't bother with repair. You can usually buy a working one on ebay for less than the repair. Give the ZX-50 to your cousin anyway and he has a collection started ! The Z1/Pz1 range are great film cameras with many advanced features for their time. The Hyper Program that todays K1 has started its life in that film series over 25 years ago. $130 sound pricey to me though. They have a common fault at this age of the mirror lifter cog breaking and spares are getting harder to find. i bought a Z1 recently to replace the one I had from new and it cost me in the UK about $65 equivalent. It also had a Pentax 50mm macro lens attached ! Last edited by pschlute; 07-16-2017 at 02:58 PM.

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Bob 256 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 169 Original Poster	Thanks for the input folks. The PZ1-p has it. I know they are a great camera - I have two - one with a broken battery casing that I have a replacement for but haven't put on yet (and with my new K-1, that might be a while longer). I want to keep my own PZ1-ps, but will shop on ebay for a little lower $ mark and go that route. Now I just have to check how old my cousin's camera was so I don't end up sending him a K mount camera for screw mount lenses. Thank's again.

07-16-2017, 09:49 PM	#6
caliscouser Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 368	I think those suffered from aperture motor failures. That may possibly be what is going on. I agree that it is not an economical repair. The ZX-50 can be harvested for the solenoid to fix later DSLRs. If you don't want to keep it I'd be interested in it for the solenoid.

07-17-2017, 01:40 PM	#8
link81 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 12822 Photos: Albums Posts: 406	not for not, but if you look, you should be able to find a decent digital body in that price range also. will work with all the same lenses as the zx and pz.....

07-17-2017, 08:05 PM	#10
caliscouser Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 368	Originally posted by Bob 256 Any recommendations for a <$100 DSLR that might show up on ebay (Pentax of course)? K100d would fit the bill.

07-25-2017, 10:22 AM	#11
Bob 256 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 169 Original Poster	Originally posted by caliscouser K100d would fit the bill. Hey thanks for that suggestion. I landed a K100D and cheapie zoom lens on ebay for under $100US. Looks like a good buy with less than 5000 shots on the shutter. Now I'm thinking about getting a second for myself and having it converted to infrared - good 6Mpix camera with the equivalent of live view should work well for that.

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Wheatfield Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 10,132	Originally posted by Bob 256 My cousin has an old Pentax camera (don't know what model), and a collection of lenses but the camera is broken. I suggested a repair job but I don't know if he wants to spend any money on it. In the meantime, a friend gave me a Pentax ZX-50 which appears to be in mint condition save the fact that it doesn't work. It makes noises and the mirror slowly raises and lowers but the shutter won't operate. Before I knew it was bad, my thoughts were to gift it to my cousin, but now that isn't the plan. I noted that a used (good condition) PZ1-p is available on ebay so I'm trying to decide between having the ZX-50 repaired and buying the PZ1-p for him (about $130US). Any suggestions including a reference to a good repair service would be appreciated. Will go with the majority vote. Thanks. All of the ZX/ MZ cameras of that body style are built like cheap P&S cameras. Toss it and be done with it. They are little more than a high end disposable camera.

07-26-2017, 07:05 AM	#13
Bob 256 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 169 Original Poster	Originally posted by Wheatfield All of the ZX/ MZ cameras of that body style are built like cheap P&S cameras. Toss it and be done with it. They are little more than a high end disposable camera. I kind of surmised that after looking at the ZX - little bit disappointed with Pentax. I have since ordered a K100D off ebay per caliscouser's recommendation, and think it will better suit my cousin's needs if I can hook him up with a digital print lab (I use a couple myself and can suggest those). He doesn't have internet so that might be an issue In buying the K100D, I got carried away and ordered a used K-01 for myself to be converted to infrared and paired with my K-1, so this whole exercise was fruitful as they say.